Three Cheers for Mel Gibson

[ManOfArms]

ANY movie that makes people think about the world around them, their lives, their love or their religion....

is a movie worth watching.

I think some of you miss the point.


It really doesnt matter whther the movie is good or bad... the simple fact that this thread and thousands like it exist... means MG did his job.


I cant wait to see it and Im not even a Christian.

I can't wait either.

 

[casualbb]

As claimed by one author, who is doing his all to incite more controversy into the issue. After he and his ilk stir up enough shit about a film, polarizing the public more than the film could ever do alone, he can later say "see we told you this was bad".

... worst argument ever.

Gibson HIMSELF admitted that he wants to polarize people around the issue and foster an us vs. them mentality. Did you read this whole article? Cause this is in there:

At the end of the screening, Gibson spoke to the audience of thousands. His words reinforced the movie's fundamental point: not that Jesus was a great teacher or moral leader, but that the world is divided between those who believe and those who deny. The opponents of Jesus are dupes of Satan, Gibson said. This personal read of the Passion by Gibson could now become gospel to millions around the world.

That sound like Jesus' love and acceptance to you?

 

[atlantabiolab]

... worst argument ever.

Gibson HIMSELF admitted that he wants to polarize people around the issue and foster an us vs. them mentality. Did you read this whole article? Cause this is in there:

I could care less what Gibson wishes, since I am not witnessing Gibson write editorials in every major newspaper nor ranting on major news and talk outlets about the movie in any magnitude as that of the media. "IF" Gibson were acting as the media itself, then you may have a point, but he made a movie, with whatever agenda he wished, and the media has snowballed it to its present status, not him.

And I find it very hypocritical that the very people who believe that a piece of land is somehow their's by divine right are worried about how their ancestors are portrayed in a film.

 

[casualbb]

So you think that the media is the ONLY thing that affects how a movie is perceived by the audience rather than, say, THE MOVIE ITSELF?

 

[casualbb]

And another thing, you seem so sure that the media is trying to do whatever it can to demonize the movie and spin it the way it wants to.

Have you ever considered that a review such as the one I posted was just a response to the MOVIE ITSELF (see last post)? And that what Gibson said afterwards simply corroborated what the reviewer perceived about the movie while he was watching it?

Are you saying that you have never seen a movie and disagreed with its review? With people I spend my time with, that happens all the time.

 

[atlantabiolab]

And another thing, you seem so sure that the media is trying to do whatever it can to demonize the movie and spin it the way it wants to.

Have you ever considered that a review such as the one I posted was just a response to the MOVIE ITSELF (see last post)? And that what Gibson said afterwards simply corroborated what the reviewer perceived about the movie while he was watching it?

Are you saying that you have never seen a movie and disagreed with its review? With people I spend my time with, that happens all the time.

The media is doing a great job of placing prejudice into the populace whether real or contrived, before ever witnessing and judging the film. It is not hard to understand that without this "controversy" many would have seen this movie with very little thought save the film itself; no deeper meaning, no hidden agenda. Most people see a film and only witness it, they do not ponder the social and political aspects possible.

Throw every newpaper and TV show into this, with their take, and the public enters the film with the purpose of uncovering real and dreampt messages.

 

[Mandinka2]

such as?

A friend of the actor-director said the final version will not include a line from St Matthew's gospel in which the Jewish high priest Caiaphas says of the crucifixion: "His blood be on us and on our children."
www.religionnewsblog.com/ 5958-Mel_Gibson_cuts_scene_but_Jewish_groups_are_still_angry.html

Read it first in an Irish newspaper but just threw "The passion cuts" into google for now.
How ya been man?

 

[curling]

This too is much ado about nothing. So much in that it plays as a destractive agent in keeping people from focusing on what is really important in thier day to day lives. Things such as why are we still in Iraq? Why did we even go to war with them? Where is Osama Bin Laden? What are we going to do, if anything, about the MMA party in Pakistan? They're the reincarnated Taliban.

You know real world issues.

What are you talking about wodie? This has nothing to do with nothing? All those other issues you listed are trivial crap compared to what Christ did for mankind 2004 years ago. He paid the ultimate sacrafice for mankind. I mean do you realize God incarnate let his creation kill him so He could save His creation. I can't think of anything MORE important than what Christ especially because what you choose to do with God's Son will determine the rest of eternity for you.

I too am looking foward to see even though it is going to be very sad to see what happenened to Christ.

 

[Longhorn85]

I too am looking foward to see even though it is going to be very sad to see what happenened to Christ.

A tragic event, but I accept the gift.

 

[ManOfArms]

I take offense at that.

Since you obviously don't know anything about Jews, let me tell you some things.

We only give a shit about Jesus to the extent that his "followers" fuck with us. That, historically, has been quite a bit.

So if a movie has any hint of anti-semitism, Jews get a little anxious because we're so aware of past and present religious persecution. Even to this day Jews die by the dozens due to suicide bombings in Israel. So excuse our attitude, which is one of, "Just fucking great, another group that sees us as the Enemy."

What makes this movie so bad is that it has the potential to incite anti-semitism in a group that, so far, has largely left us alone: the modern american christian.

Does that make sense?

No it does not.