Thoughts on upcoming cycle

[BEAST420]

So for my next cycle I plan on gettin lots of lean muscle. I am finishing up my Sarms s4 run and gonna take about two months off and startup a cycle in the middle of spring and end early to middle of summer... On hand I have test c , npp, anavar, and inject primo...
Originally was gonna run all three but now thinking about just doing a simple cycle like this

1-12 test c 500mg
1-12 primo 600mg
6-14 anavar 75-100 mg

I could just save the npp for my winter bulk and obvi add some test and prolly winny...

Would you guys change anythjng I'n that cycle ? What type of gains would I be looking at if my diet is locked in (which it will be )

Support supps
1-8 hcGenerate
9-12 hcg 250 iu week
13-14 hcg 1000 iu week
6-14 n2guard


Pct:
Sarms1 osta 25mg day
Clomid 25mg day
Post cycle /unleashed
Daa

Will be turning 26 this January.
5'10 , 185, 12%

 

[RickRock13]

So for my next cycle I plan on gettin lots of lean muscle. I am finishing up my Sarms s4 run and gonna take about two months off and startup a cycle in the middle of spring and end early to middle of summer... On hand I have test c , npp, anavar, and inject primo...
Originally was gonna run all three but now thinking about just doing a simple cycle like this

1-12 test c 500mg
1-12 primo 600mg
6-14 anavar 75-100 mg

I could just save the npp for my winter bulk and obvi add some test and prolly winny...

Would you guys change anythjng I'n that cycle ? What type of gains would I be looking at if my diet is locked in (which it will be )

Support supps
1-8 hcGenerate
9-12 hcg 250 iu week
13-14 hcg 1000 iu week
6-14 n2guard


Pct:
Sarms1 osta 25mg day
Clomid 25mg day
Post cycle /unleashed
Daa

Will be turning 26 this January.
5'10 , 185, 12%

Looks good to me. I would definitely save the NPP for a cycle down the road. Test and Primo with Var on the back end will be sweet.

Its tough to say exactly what your gains will be as everything varies from person to person, but the gains from Primo are very nice and steady from what I hear.


I would consider adding in either Test Stack or PHYTOSERMS to your PCT as well. Here are some links to info and discounts

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

 

[burnthiscorpse]

So for my next cycle I plan on gettin lots of lean muscle. I am finishing up my Sarms s4 run and gonna take about two months off and startup a cycle in the middle of spring and end early to middle of summer... On hand I have test c , npp, anavar, and inject primo...
Originally was gonna run all three but now thinking about just doing a simple cycle like this

1-12 test c 500mg
1-12 primo 600mg
6-14 anavar 75-100 mg

I could just save the npp for my winter bulk and obvi add some test and prolly winny...

Would you guys change anythjng I'n that cycle ? What type of gains would I be looking at if my diet is locked in (which it will be )

Support supps
1-8 hcGenerate
9-12 hcg 250 iu week
13-14 hcg 1000 iu week
6-14 n2guard


Pct:
Sarms1 osta 25mg day
Clomid 25mg day
Post cycle /unleashed
Daa

Will be turning 26 this January.
5'10 , 185, 12%

Run the Hcgenerate during PCT bro. Trust me. Its fine on cycle but its one of the best weapons for PCT.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Yup I like kickstarting PCT with HCGenerate, and all my clients love that combo for PCT.

 

[dylangemelli]

run hcgenerate ES on cycle and the regular version in pct...

also, i HIGHLY recommend adding gw-501516 to your cycle bro... you will maximize it so much, especially along side of primo... SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[BEAST420]

At this point I can Hardley afford the primo and I have two bottles of hcGenerate on hand. I can't afford hcGenerate Es especially two bottles ( I absolutely wish I could!!) and for now im not gonna touch gw. I'm sure it's safe and what not but it's still a little too new for me. I'm still young , I'll wait a couple years before touching gw...

And is there any advice on the actual cycle ? Like anything anyone has experienced with these compounds, what type of sides , how to avoid the sides ,basically just some advice. I do appriciate all the help with adding supps and stuff and Rick I'm proly gonna add the test stack to my pct...

Also what would be the best way to dose the primo at 600 a week to avoid pip!!! I am a little sensitive to pins so Im nervous

 

[EZ_E]

Test/Primo/Var...I'm salivating

I'd drop the test dose personally

 

[broscience]

yea i think going
300 test
600 primo
and go 80mg var ed

 

[BEAST420]

I plan on keepig test high soley for muscle gains... My diet and training will keep my lean as well as the primo and var... My thoughts on higher test is that a) I have it on hand and b) test comes with good deal of size... Curious as to why u think I should lower it

 

[BEAST420]

Also how could I dose 600mg primo and avoid as much pip as possible... I kno there will be some that I just have to suck up
But I would like to minimize the pain if possible

 

[EZ_E]

I plan on keepig test high soley for muscle gains... My diet and training will keep my lean as well as the primo and var... My thoughts on higher test is that a) I have it on hand and b) test comes with good deal of size... Curious as to why u think I should lower it

A) that doesn't mean you need to use it, if you had a gift card to Mc Donald's would you use it? B) more test/more juice overall comes with more sides, running more test doesn't magically equal more gains

 

[BEAST420]

Never said it would be magically giving me more gains bro... All I said is that more test will probably equate to more size... Primo and anavar are not known for size from what iv read ( I haven't ran eithor before)... Size is a potion of the cake for me in this cycle... I wanna stay / get leaner but I deff wanna pack on some solid muscle... By kno means was I suggesting more test would be magic but I do think it could help add some size... I could be mistaken so if I am get at me haha

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Never said it would be magically giving me more gains bro... All I said is that more test will probably equate to more size... Primo and anavar are not known for size from what iv read ( I haven't ran eithor before)... Size is a potion of the cake for me in this cycle... I wanna stay / get leaner but I deff wanna pack on some solid muscle... By kno means was I suggesting more test would be magic but I do think it could help add some size... I could be mistaken so if I am get at me haha

Every ounce of muscle you gain on primo and var and low test even if its maybe 8-10 lb over the long cycle will be 100% hard earned super lean mass. There light be another 10 lb on top of that with high dose test but you will lose most of it after. I wager you will look leaner and tighter with lower test too.

 

[BEAST420]

Okay I'm convinced
Test 300mg
Primo 600mg
Anavar 50mg tapered to most likely 100mg but at least 75mg

Plan on gettin ripped to shreds

 

[RickRock13]

Okay I'm convinced
Test 300mg
Primo 600mg
Anavar 50mg tapered to most likely 100mg but at least 75mg

Plan on gettin ripped to shreds

Thats a great plan buddy, and pretty much what I am planning this summer other than I will be adding some Masteron as well.

 

[RickRock13]

Also how could I dose 600mg primo and avoid as much pip as possible... I kno there will be some that I just have to suck up
But I would like to minimize the pain if possible

If PIP becomes an issue, try cutting down your oil volume at each injection by injecting more frequently. Also just an FYI....100mg/ml primo usually has less PIP than high concentrated primo (200mg/ml)

 

[BEAST420]

I was contemplating mast but I'm at 12% bf at the Max... Would it be a waste? If not, what would it add to my cycle??

And do you think it would be a good idea to taper up in doses?

Test is going to be 300 the whole way (probs just gonna shoot this once a week)
Primo I was thinking about starting at 400 or 500 mg and tapering up after two weeks to 600mg and then the last two weeks up to 700mg. My thoughts are this will help prevent the body from gettin to use to the same dose
For anavar I'm gonna start at 50mg taper up to 75 mg the 2nd week and prolly 100 from weeks 4-8

Wat you thnk ? And I plan on doing primo injections eod

 

[RickRock13]

I was contemplating mast but I'm at 12% bf at the Max... Would it be a waste? If not, what would it add to my cycle??

And do you think it would be a good idea to taper up in doses?

Test is going to be 300 the whole way (probs just gonna shoot this once a week)
Primo I was thinking about starting at 400 or 500 mg and tapering up after two weeks to 600mg and then the last two weeks up to 700mg. My thoughts are this will help prevent the body from gettin to use to the same dose
For anavar I'm gonna start at 50mg taper up to 75 mg the 2nd week and prolly 100 from weeks 4-8

Wat you thnk ? And I plan on doing primo injections eod

If you will end up getting your body fat down a little more, Masteron is pretty nice. Amazing hardness and vascularity when at single digit body fat

I wouldn't taper up your dosage. Long esters like Test E and Primo self taper until they hit peak anyways. Each week you automatically have more and more active compound until you hit peak around 4 or 5 weeks in. Just run it where you want it from the start

 

[EZ_E]

Okay I'm convinced
Test 300mg
Primo 600mg
Anavar 50mg tapered to most likely 100mg but at least 75mg

Plan on gettin ripped to shreds

Money

 

[burnthiscorpse]

If you will end up getting your body fat down a little more, Masteron is pretty nice. Amazing hardness and vascularity when at single digit body fat

I wouldn't taper up your dosage. Long esters like Test E and Primo self taper until they hit peak anyways. Each week you automatically have more and more active compound until you hit peak around 4 or 5 weeks in. Just run it where you want it from the start

Myostatin bro. Tapering up is a very good idea for him and anyone else. Just 100mg increase every 4 weeks will keep the body from adapting and keep him growing. Tapering down is stupid. Tapering up is a great idea. Ledhed has pretty much proved why this is so. One he hits peak levels as you said at week 4 or 5 his body will try and adapt. This is why he needs the 100mg increase. Then again in another 4 weeks.

 

[ledhead]

Myostatin bro. Tapering up is a very good idea for him and anyone else. Just 100mg increase every 4 weeks will keep the body from adapting and keep him growing. Tapering down is stupid. Tapering up is a great idea. Ledhed has pretty much proved why this is so. One he hits peak levels as you said at week 4 or 5 his body will try and adapt. This is why he needs the 100mg increase. Then again in another 4 weeks.

Yep, that's how to do it...

 

[EZ_E]

Yep, that's how to do it...

Interesting theory, would you do this in a short cycle?

(8-10 weeks)

 

[ledhead]

Interesting theory, would you do this in a short cycle?

(8-10 weeks)

Yes, I would. We propose it in a short cycle because like we have discussed in previous threads how Myostatin stalls a cycle by day 56. Therefore, I recommend upping dosages at the 23 day mark..

 

[EZ_E]

Yes, I would. We propose it in a short cycle because like we have discussed in previous threads how Myostatin stalls a cycle by day 56. Therefore, I recommend upping dosages at the 23 day mark..

Done & done....