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Thoughts on this?

Currently in 12 week cycle of 750 Test E, 600 Deca, 100 Winny ed...
Thinking about immediately starting 750 EQ at the end of the above cycle and running that for 14 weeks. Is the EQ alone a good idea or bad idea after a cycle like mine? Should I continue with a 250 Test the whole way through or no?
 
DBBT i know u've been around the block. That being said the deca is going to have shut you down hard. If you add on another 14 wks of eq you will have had a 26 week run and may have some serious post cycle issues. I personally would go through pct and at least give myself a chance to recover.

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formerly known as axe and axe2
 
I use almost year round, and I don't see anything wrong with it provided you get regular medical checkups...

my last year consited of something like this:

month 1-3
600mg test e
600mg deca

month 4-6
125mg test e
1000mg eq

then 1 month off, then back on

month 8-9
350mg test prop
350mg tren ace

month 10-12
1000 mg eq
500 mg test e
310 mg anavar

then 1 month off

Now I am on 250mg of test and 500mg of EQ.

Basically what I am saying is that you can use the EQ and it will work good, but a splash of test is best. both times I came off for a month so that my RBC would return to the normal range. I am hoping that cutting my doses in half this time around will work.

really wether or not you double your cycle length all depends on goals though.
 
view said:
I use almost year round, and I don't see anything wrong with it provided you get regular medical checkups...

my last year consited of something like this:

month 1-3
600mg test e
600mg deca

month 4-6
125mg test e
1000mg eq

then 1 month off, then back on

month 8-9
350mg test prop
350mg tren ace

month 10-12
1000 mg eq
500 mg test e
310 mg anavar

then 1 month off

Now I am on 250mg of test and 500mg of EQ.

Basically what I am saying is that you can use the EQ and it will work good, but a splash of test is best. both times I came off for a month so that my RBC would return to the normal range. I am hoping that cutting my doses in half this time around will work.

really wether or not you double your cycle length all depends on goals though.

310mg. anavar!!! Holy shit dude, what kind of gains did you get from that??
you must have some major coin to use that much!

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view said:
I use almost year round, and I don't see anything wrong with it provided you get regular medical checkups...

my last year consited of something like this:

month 1-3
600mg test e
600mg deca

month 4-6
125mg test e
1000mg eq

then 1 month off, then back on

month 8-9
350mg test prop
350mg tren ace

month 10-12
1000 mg eq
500 mg test e
310 mg anavar

then 1 month off

Now I am on 250mg of test and 500mg of EQ.

Basically what I am saying is that you can use the EQ and it will work good, but a splash of test is best. both times I came off for a month so that my RBC would return to the normal range. I am hoping that cutting my doses in half this time around will work.

really wether or not you double your cycle length all depends on goals though.

do you use any ancillaries during or anytime? How do you keep your BP and cholest. in check all year?
 
I do agree - I would run a PCT and take at least a short break.. Just my .02, but being shut down for 26 weeks is a long time - unless of course you are already on HRT... I am assuming you are not..
 
if you're dead set on it. i'd at least take a 5 week break. one week after last shot do 5000i.u. hcg and 5 days later one more 5000 ,then 5 more days 2500i.u. and 5 days later 2500 more. during the 4 week period run clomid 1rst week 100mg ed, 2nd week 100 ed, 3rd week 50 ed, 4th 50 ed. just somethin to break that seam between the deca and e.q. were you going to run the e.q. during a cutter.
 
DBBT said:
then i'd run it like it's printed in the anabolics 2004. 15 weeks with e.q., proviron, gh, clen, and zaditen. the only difference is that i'd run the dosage higher. i'm sure you'd get damn good results with that one. even more so if you added var or t-bol to it also. :)
 
Start the EQ three weeks before you finish the first cycle and drop the test to 250. :Chef: :tuc:
 
galaxy said:
Id just run HCG on sat and sundays at 250ius and then in the middle of the cycle run clomid as typical run pct.
galaxy, so if i were to add in the eq around week 10 of my current 12 week cycle which is Test/Deca/Stan and then go on for another 14 weeks with EQ and low Test, when are you saying add clomid? thanks
 
DBBT said:
do you use any ancillaries during or anytime? How do you keep your BP and cholest. in check all year?

8-10 servings a day of fruits and vegtables (and we are talking fairly big servings). Cardio 5 days per week (not the fat burning zone, actual cardio). Very high fibre 45-50 grams. Polisconal, niacin, celery extract, CoQ10, very low sodium, no stimulants. no prescription meds yet. my bp is a little high 142ish/80ish, and cholesterol is somewhat bad hdl 25, ldl 130, but total cholesterol and VLDL is just fine. so basically what I am saying is I don't keep them in check. when I go off by the 4 week mark, they have gotten much closer to the normal range, but it is the price I pay for using so often.

I use aromasin for an anti-e when necesary, and clomid/nolva between cycles. HCG here and there really. I will do 1000iu EOD for 1 kit just to restore nuts if I see fit. finasteride at 1.25mg tab ED.
 
i should probably note than in 2-3 weeks (whenever this EQ clears), I am going off until my bp and cholesterol return to normal (10 weeks I estimate). I then am going to try a new way of cycle. 1 month on, 1 month off. I was talking with another member about it and he convinced me enough. :)
 
view said:
8-10 servings a day of fruits and vegtables (and we are talking fairly big servings). Cardio 5 days per week (not the fat burning zone, actual cardio). Very high fibre 45-50 grams. Polisconal, niacin, celery extract, CoQ10, very low sodium, no stimulants. no prescription meds yet. my bp is a little high 142ish/80ish, and cholesterol is somewhat bad hdl 25, ldl 130, but total cholesterol and VLDL is just fine. so basically what I am saying is I don't keep them in check. when I go off by the 4 week mark, they have gotten much closer to the normal range, but it is the price I pay for using so often.

I use aromasin for an anti-e when necesary, and clomid/nolva between cycles. HCG here and there really. I will do 1000iu EOD for 1 kit just to restore nuts if I see fit. finasteride at 1.25mg tab ED.
how intense is your cardio and for how long?
 
DBBT said:
how intense is your cardio and for how long?

I typically alternate between type cardio. 3 of the 5 sessions are HIIT session, about 20 minutes long. I do a 3 minute warm up then 7 intervals 2 min intervals (one minute at 3.0mph, the next at 6.0-8.5mph), and then 3 minutes of cooldown (stretching too). it gets pretty intense at times. the other two sessions are AM cardio sessions. 45mins of the treadmill on the incline @ about 10degrees. here my HR is around 140, unlike the 165-175 it can hit doing the intervals.
 
view said:
I typically alternate between type cardio. 3 of the 5 sessions are HIIT session, about 20 minutes long. I do a 3 minute warm up then 7 intervals 2 min intervals (one minute at 3.0mph, the next at 6.0-8.5mph), and then 3 minutes of cooldown (stretching too). it gets pretty intense at times. the other two sessions are AM cardio sessions. 45mins of the treadmill on the incline @ about 10degrees. here my HR is around 140, unlike the 165-175 it can hit doing the intervals.

first thing am? and does that HIIT loose you any muscle even while ON
 
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