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Thoughts about Arnold

When the myth was broken: that all these goliaths of the 60's and 70's of arnolds days were products of hormonal(drug) manipulation, the stigma of BB was seriously effected. But back then it was the "stuff" to take to get the results everyone wanted but there was no public knowledge of the truth behind their quantum leaps in size from their predacesors in the 40's and 50's just the unabashed awe of what people were seeing. In an interview with barbara walters I believe arnold did admit his use of aas in his day. Patronizing it as what everyone was doing then to keep up with the competative edge. Knowledge of the longterm risks were not clearly known then and teen and young adult drug use were primarily concerned with halucinagenic and othe mind altering drugs. You can bet arnold juiced in some of his recent films following the cessation of his pro BB career in order to maintain the essence of his carismatic presence he used so effectively to advance his goals in acting. Anythinhg he admits or denies later in his career you can be sure are just more forthough tactics to keep forwarding whatever future goal he has in mind for himself
 
Realgains said:
The last time Arnold did roids was WAY PAST 30! Take a look at Predator..he was 40 then.. and what about T2....also, Arnold has to say he is against roids now cause otherwise he would get dragged across hot burning media coals.:D

He was actually in his mid 30's when doing Predator.Well maybe just maybe if people like Arnold with their influence would openly talk about steroid use it would be the first step of getting them legal?
 
marky said:
When the myth was broken: that all these goliaths of the 60's and 70's of arnolds days were products of hormonal(drug) manipulation, the stigma of BB was seriously effected. But back then it was the "stuff" to take to get the results everyone wanted but there was no public knowledge of the truth behind their quantum leaps in size from their predacesors in the 40's and 50's just the unabashed awe of what people were seeing. In an interview with barbara walters I believe arnold did admit his use of aas in his day. Patronizing it as what everyone was doing then to keep up with the competative edge. Knowledge of the longterm risks were not clearly known then and teen and young adult drug use were primarily concerned with halucinagenic and othe mind altering drugs. You can bet arnold juiced in some of his recent films following the cessation of his pro BB career in order to maintain the essence of his carismatic presence he used so effectively to advance his goals in acting. Anythinhg he admits or denies later in his career you can be sure are just more forthough tactics to keep forwarding whatever future goal he has in mind for himself

But that's the thing.Who cares if you or I lie about it? We don't have any influence on masses.Maybe if he would start educating people about roids their perception would change?I only attribute 20-30% of his success to roids, he did have great genetics.But he would look MAYBE like bigger version of Steve Reeves without them.
 
notpuff said:
When did ventura admit to using aas ? thing is ronnie shouldnt admit using because if he brags about using aas hell get arrested because it is illegal.he was on letterman a while ago and claimed he was all natural , if he would have said on tv yes i use AAs they would have pinched him. but arnold should not deny it any one who did them when they werent illegal should admit it

Maybe Coleman thinks he's natural.After all...test is natural and so is insuline.Just kidding.I don't think anybody cares about Coleman or even knows who he is.BTW, I suspect he got most of his roids from the police drug raids on "steroid drug lords".Anyway I don't care too much about pros, Lee Priest is the only one who is kinda likable.If only he didn't lie about his cycle...
 
about Arnold

hey grave digger, I totally agree about arnold. Ive thought this 4 a while. I bought his book, The encyclopedia of bodybuilding over a yr ago and this was before I got into AS. I couldnt fig out why in the AS section of his book he only had a paragraph stating that he was totally against the use of AS. That has since made me lose some respect for the book. If you ask me, he pretty much owes his career, and movie success to AS.
 
You gotta understand where arnold is coming from. Alot of teenagers look up to him and if he went around saying he did mad juice, then kids will think its ok for them to do it. Juice isnt for teenagers and it fucks you up when your that young. I know a kid thats been on shit since he was 17 now hes 21 and all fucked up, not to mention a fat piece of shit...so I can understand why arnold wont talk about it.

I was thinking the exact same thing, then I read this post. However, I read in an article (I wish I could remember from where) where arnold said:

"Don't get me wrong, I don't condone MY us of steroids......."

I also saw him in washington one time as a guest speaker for the presidents fitness council (or whatever it was he represented for the president) and he openly talked about it when asked questions. He admitted the use, but said he was very against it. Mostly because of the reasons above, IMO!
 
Grave_Digger519 said:
I just think he had to play it to mainstream.Last time he was using AS he was 30.Hardly an experimenting teenager.

Getting ready for Conan the Destroyer was the last time he admitted to using them-he also said that was as big as the public ever saw him. I suspect he now has more dangerous things in his body-like pec, delt, bicep and calve silicon implants. GH has also been thrown around in rumor circles too...is he trying to run for an office or something??
 
Grave_Digger519 said:
I just think he had to play it to mainstream.Last time he was using AS he was 30.Hardly an experimenting teenager.

Getting ready for Conan the Destroyer was the last time he admitted to using them-he also said that was as big as the public ever saw him. I suspect he now has more dangerous things in his body-like pec, delt, bicep and calve silicon implants. GH has also been thrown around in rumor circles too...is he trying to run for an office or something??

Oh yea...and did you ever see Pumping Iron II? He smokes a fatty (on camera) after a competition. Maybe that's why he bought out the rights and pulled both the BB documentaries out of circulation. :fro:
 
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