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This is aggrivating as hell

RADAR

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The majority of posters never post age when giving Stats...WHY?

it's a vital requirement so why not do it!

Don't get me wrong we are happy to help ,but if we do not have all of the information on you, then you're only cutting yourself short!

End rant! :nopity:
 
its because i am 18 and i don't want you to know it.
Whats up Radar?
Hows life?
 
even if the guys are young... chances are they are going to do it anyways.... So we may as well give them the best legit cycle advice we can...
its like telling a person under 21 not to drink or do drugs... 99% of the time they are going to do it anyways. All we can do is to at least teach them how to do it properly and how to be responsable...
 
even if the guys are young... chances are they are going to do it anyways.... So we may as well give them the best legit cycle advice we can...
its like telling a person under 21 not to drink or do drugs... 99% of the time they are going to do it anyways. All we can do is to at least teach them how to do it properly and how to be responsable...

Not a chance in hell am I going to tell a kid how to fuck his hormones up for life. These compounds are in no way comparable to alcohol or nicotine or any other drug.

Thats fucking weak and a cop out.

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its also against the sites rules...the underage thing/juice


Radar...go check out the womens forum if you wanna see a hot mess of steroid questions going on
seems like a lot of newb ass newbs females heard winny or var were good for "toning up"
or...idk how to dose this so I just started on 20mg of var....

their diets are "real good" tho...and they do cardio three times a week......it makes me wanna smash my head on the keyboard
 
The majority of posters never post age when giving Stats...WHY?

it's a vital requirement so why not do it!

Don't get me wrong we are happy to help ,but if we do not have all of the information on you, then you're only cutting yourself short!

End rant! :nopity:

Perhaps those threads should be closed immediately & the offender given a 1 day ban.
 
even if the guys are young... chances are they are going to do it anyways.... So we may as well give them the best legit cycle advice we can...
its like telling a person under 21 not to drink or do drugs... 99% of the time they are going to do it anyways. All we can do is to at least teach them how to do it properly and how to be responsable...


are you fucking kidding me man? The ones of us here that ACTUALLY CARE about people are not going to do that shit... were going to explain to them the risks and why its a bad idea... what the hell is wrong with you man? seriously, what kind of person are you? this is bull shit right here!
 
its also against the sites rules...the underage thing/juice


Radar...go check out the womens forum if you wanna see a hot mess of steroid questions going on
seems like a lot of newb ass newbs females heard winny or var were good for "toning up"
or...idk how to dose this so I just started on 20mg of var....

their diets are "real good" tho...and they do cardio three times a week......it makes me wanna smash my head on the keyboard
Lmao AGREED.

'I wanna lose weight...so, tell me about steroids.'

Ridiculous..
 
ya...so if Im a real smart ass once...don't ban me brosephine..lol
cuz one of these days its gonna go like...your 'real good" american diet is making you a f-in fat ass so get your twinkie eating ass off the couch and DO something other than an elliptical for 30 min three times a week

but if youd prefer facial ..and maybe some nip hair..some judicious bacne and a thickening of your forehead and jaw and lose your tits first...be my guest!! go straight for gear with out having a clue...it'll look pretty hot when you have no hips, boobs and some facial hair with cystic acne and have your voice drop a few octaves...all the dudes will LOVE it..should go straight for some primo and winny...enjoy!
 
oh...and seeing how you haven't read anything AT ALL..yeah, 20 mgs of var at once to start off for your first time evah..is a great idea..awesome..yeah
read something..ANYTHING on anavar and women and get back to me with that newbie dose...

var isn't working?? winny is awesome...yeah, do some of that...fml
 
thank god I dont have that problem...but ya..I forgot that one!
 
even if the guys are young... chances are they are going to do it anyways.... So we may as well give them the best legit cycle advice we can...
its like telling a person under 21 not to drink or do drugs... 99% of the time they are going to do it anyways. All we can do is to at least teach them how to do it properly and how to be responsable...

well the problem with that is two fold.

1. as everyone says thats not how we do things on EF. we only advise people who are HEALTHY ADULT MEN to juice. if you are 340 pounds of flab you won't get advice, would be happy to help you with your diet though, but no advice on AAS sorry. or if you are immature being 20 or under you won't get AAS advice either, but will be happy to help you with your diet and training.

2. when someone who has no business juicing, juices.. then thats when we get people mess themselves up which leads to the stupid media and internet myths that we get sick of hearing of.. and those get passed around and makes all juicers look like dickless and brainless fools. personally that pisses me off.. its like those guys in SFLA who juiced at that gym and went around killing people and robbing.. its makes all steroid users look bad and I don't appreciate that at all. cause 99.9% of us are gym rats who want to take shit to another level, and we would give the shirt off our backs for anyone. so if you aren't ready to juice then please use this site to gain more knowledge, don't pick up the needle just cause your friend at the gym told you to try it out .. your friend could not care less about you..
 
are you fucking kidding me man? The ones of us here that ACTUALLY CARE about people are not going to do that shit... were going to explain to them the risks and why its a bad idea... what the hell is wrong with you man? seriously, what kind of person are you? this is bull shit right here!



well id rather send them on their way with a proper safe way to do it, rather than not informing them whatsoever and cutting them loose..... inform them to do it as safely as possible or dont tell them anything, cut them loose and watch them potentially die. You know how kids are these days... you tell them no 1010101010 times,, they are gunna just run off and do it anyways. May as well show them some sort of guideline or at least a very safe way to do it since they are most likely going to do it reguardless..
 
^^^ okay but thats not the way we do things on EF.

also i disagree with "the way kids are these days" .. you would be surprised at how kids are. I actually am a PLer judge for high school. and the kids are VERY responsive.. me and my buddy from the gym are there early and we lift there and the kids want to learn as much as possible from us. we never mention steroids at all.. only proper nutrition and how to kill it in the gym.
 
Actually i agree with some of the members here, do the best we can and lets not make elite like some of the other boards out there.
 
well id rather send them on their way with a proper safe way to do it, rather than not informing them whatsoever and cutting them loose..... inform them to do it as safely as possible or dont tell them anything, cut them loose and watch them potentially die. You know how kids are these days... you tell them no 1010101010 times,, they are gunna just run off and do it anyways. May as well show them some sort of guideline or at least a very safe way to do it since they are most likely going to do it reguardless..


Sorry bro but I have to disagree with you, I think it's more beneficial to scare the living shit out of these kids and make them see the real risk behind it. When I was seventeen if someone told me that if I juiced and didn't do everything perfect to a T I could potentially not get my cock up and may end up having boobs I would stay as far away from the shit as possible until the right time
 
well id rather send them on their way with a proper safe way to do it, rather than not informing them whatsoever and cutting them loose..... inform them to do it as safely as possible or dont tell them anything, cut them loose and watch them potentially die. You know how kids are these days... you tell them no 1010101010 times,, they are gunna just run off and do it anyways. May as well show them some sort of guideline or at least a very safe way to do it since they are most likely going to do it reguardless..

You dont get it; the is no "safe" or "proper" way to do steroids at that age.

There is more than one reason that this is protocol here; young kids coming and asking for 1st cycle advice are just begging to be scammed. Anyone looking to make a quick buck can post up advice, PM them about a source, and make the easiest 500$ western union order they've ever made.

I would know because it happened to me. If I hadn't received the harsh treatment that I had from the EF community and received a lesson from the school of hard knocks, and instead been treated in the manner that you've layed out, there's no doubt in my mind that instead of becoming knowledgeable about the subject and waiting until my body was ready, I would be severely fucked up right now and blaming myself and the EF community rather than thanking them.

So *that* is why protocol is the way it is. Sorry for the rant...........thats a bit of a touchy subject for me...... :verygood:

And to answer your question RADAR - its because they're too young but think they know better than the board mods.
 
well id rather send them on their way with a proper safe way to do it, rather than not informing them whatsoever and cutting them loose..... inform them to do it as safely as possible or dont tell them anything, cut them loose and watch them potentially die. You know how kids are these days... you tell them no 1010101010 times,, they are gunna just run off and do it anyways. May as well show them some sort of guideline or at least a very safe way to do it since they are most likely going to do it reguardless..


NOOO! You should be telling them all the reasons they are not ready... letting them know all the risks they are taking and informing all the reasons they should be waiting... i can't tell you how many people we have explained things to on here that come to realize that they are not ready... you don't just tell people to do shit that you know is wrong... thats a fucked up way of thinking man and that's a non caring way of thinking... we are looking out for the well being of everyone here... your thinking here is just not right... its wreckless and its not tolerated around here...
 
I havent been on this site for very long, and have done very little posting and mostly reading. I'm 25 by the way. And I actually just want to say that EF is a great forum and anyone who I have asked for help from as been more than willing to help me out or point me in the correct direction. Since I see alot of whom i consider ( big shots) are in this thread I just want to say thanks. When I see your guys name next to a comment or thread that i'm reading on I feel like its going to be truth and not bull shit cause you guys do care. So thanks again for all the great info and help from this thread.
 
Sorry bro but I have to disagree with you, I think it's more beneficial to scare the living shit out of these kids and make them see the real risk behind it. When I was seventeen if someone told me that if I juiced and didn't do everything perfect to a T I could potentially not get my cock up and may end up having boobs I would stay as far away from the shit as possible until the right time

I tried the scare the hell tactic on one youngster once, he went and got all paranoid saying that i said he was going to die, which was the furthest from the truth, actually i listed several scenearios of youngsters not being able to handle foreign substances in their bodies with the extreme of some going as far as commiting sucide, it rare but it happens.
 
I tried the scare the hell tactic on one youngster once, he went and got all paranoid saying that i said he was going to die, which was the furthest from the truth, actually i listed several scenearios of youngsters not being able to handle foreign substances in their bodies with the extreme of some going as far as commiting sucide, it rare but it happens.

Yea, he may not like you, but you can bet your ass he wasnt juicing!

The people who really care will sacrifice someones opinion of them in order to protect them.
 
I tried the scare the hell tactic on one youngster once, he went and got all paranoid saying that i said he was going to die, which was the furthest from the truth, actually i listed several scenearios of youngsters not being able to handle foreign substances in their bodies with the extreme of some going as far as commiting sucide, it rare but it happens.

Yikes, sounds pretty crazy. The truth can be scary though, and in all reality, it's not just about youngsters, it's for anyone who doesn't know exactly what they are doing. But, more importantly for the youngsters, because at that young it is definitely possible to change your future for the bad by using any of the substances incorrectly. Regardless of the tactic you use though, it is definitely not a good idea to give a young, arrogant person a 'safe' way to juice, because in their minds, 'safe' means well hey, it's safe, why shouldn't I. But that is unfortunate radar, but at least u stopped him from making a huge mistake!
 
I havent been on this site for very long, and have done very little posting and mostly reading. I'm 25 by the way. And I actually just want to say that EF is a great forum and anyone who I have asked for help from as been more than willing to help me out or point me in the correct direction. Since I see alot of whom i consider ( big shots) are in this thread I just want to say thanks. When I see your guys name next to a comment or thread that i'm reading on I feel like its going to be truth and not bull shit cause you guys do care. So thanks again for all the great info and help from this thread.

you are most very welcome bro
 
All you can do is give these kids a chance to be honest about their age and stats. If they choose to be dishonest, then that is a choice they made and probably would do the cycle regardless of advice given anyways.

Those that are honest about their age are more likely to listen to the advice we give about waiting.

I certainly will never give steroid advice to anyone that I know is under 21. I think that is even too young actually. I waited until 35, and already had all the kids I wanted. There is a reason for that. You see way too many people in their 20s on TRT these days.
 
All you can do is give these kids a chance to be honest about their age and stats. If they choose to be dishonest, then that is a choice they made and probably would do the cycle regardless of advice given anyways.

Those that are honest about their age are more likely to listen to the advice we give about waiting.

I certainly will never give steroid advice to anyone that I know is under 21. I think that is even too young actually. I waited until 35, and already had all the kids I wanted. There is a reason for that. You see way too many people in their 20s on TRT these days.

Exactly ^^^ unless we card them at the door, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they are being honest...what else can we do? I also would rather take the young kid under my wing and give him healthy and safe advice and guidance instead of ridiculing them because they will be more open to listening if you give a little common courtesy, and still try and steer them away from AAS/PH until they are older than 25 or so, really situational too, but try to keep then from fucking up their health and themselves.

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