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this guys on 10grams of gear a week!!!!

just plain stupid, i made gains close to that last summer using only 600mg of test

RADAR
 
quite an improvement no doubt about that...

but to put the body through such abuse is plain stupid!!!
 
he looks mean...

am I reading this correctly?
He took 60ius of insulin daily?? WTF??
4 sustanons a day???
I dont know what liv 365's are but he abused them as well...
and whats with only taking tren for a week at a time then a week off WTF???
and finally this whole cycle only lasted 4 weeks? the sust doesn't even kick in until then - that guy is fucked. although he does look much better (and meaner) in the after pics
 
also, what would you put his body fat % at in the before and after pics respectfully?

anyone think that is a legit site? anyone ever use it? I love how they have a banner proclaiming "we do not sell drugs" and directly under it is the link to "prices"

awesome
 
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IF, repeat IF, he took all of that, i would expect more resuts that his "after" pics indicate.

don't get me wrong......i see improvements and he looks damn good to me. but not what one would expect from that massive cycle.
 
rnch said:
......i see improvements and he looks damn good to me.
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gotta admit that guy has a terrific physique. note the difference in the size of his face width in the second pics. funny how juice and muscle growth make your face wider...i think that is a good look. is that acne on his upper chest?
 
jonny jacked said:
he looks mean...

am I reading this correctly?
He took 60ius of insulin daily?? WTF??
4 sustanons a day???
I dont know what liv 365's are but he abused them as well...
and whats with only taking tren for a week at a time then a week off WTF???
and finally this whole cycle only lasted 4 weeks? the sust doesn't even kick in until then - that guy is fucked. although he does look much better (and meaner) in the after pics
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liv365 is a liver detoxifier that was originally designed for race horses.
One of Biohazards supplements.
 
He looks good! Not that he wouldn't have looked that good with only 1-2 G of test per week though. Only positive thing that I can not about the situation is that at least it looks like he kept his cycle short and sweet (4 weeks). Even with dosages that high it is unlikely to suffer any super serious sides in that short of a time frame. Of course, unless he is only on week 4 now and is going to continue :worried:
 
At 10G/wk, if this idiot is serious, where are the anti-E's, or anti-aromatase's in his cycle. He's gonna have a nice set of tits when he's through. 4 wks of sust(a waste)??? 7 fucking anadrol....he's gonna have tit and lactate too. 10G/wk, I would guess is a high dose for an elite, top professional, not this guy. I'll bet, he'd get about the same results off of a G/wk, and proper training and diet.
 
a buddy of mine has won many titles..
name i wont mention.

anyhow, he swears that 2-3g per week is plenty and just as efficient as 6g or more.
 
satchboogie said:
a buddy of mine has won many titles..
name i wont mention.

anyhow, he swears that 2-3g per week is plenty and just as efficient as 6g or more.
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Prolly true!! The key to what you said is "won titles"..us regular gym rats that arent getting on a stage do not need to run rediculous amounts of gear!!
 
powerforward said:
i'm curious as to what a gram of test a day feels like.
heck i'm curious as to what a gram a week feels like.
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I imagine he walked around with a boner all day, and wanted to fuck every fat and ugly female in sight.
 
I have friends who do not even go over 500mg a week of Sustanon and 1 Anapolan a day who look way better and bigger than Him. All that gear that he is using is a waste. If you have your caloric, Protein, Carb and fat intake on cue and you train hard and take the right combinations of gear you get amazing results. Diet is the most important part of gaining size not Grams of gear. Gear is just the icing on the cake that brings it all together. :artist: :artist: :artist:
 
Since the Sust was done every other week this is NOT really 10grams/week. Still, I wouldn't touch it.
 
Ok I have a few details from another board.
He weighs 17st 3lb in the after pics (238lb). Gained 3lb on the cycle as he couldn't eat (complained of severe loss of appetite due to the anapolans). Lost an inch off the waist.

He actually trains at my gym, I dont know the guy but those pics dont really do him justice. Still crazy doses IMO.
 
Upper body definitely improved, but lower body I see no difference whatsoever. Looks like this guy forgot about training legs while on all that gear.
 
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rnch said:
don't get me wrong......i see improvements and he looks damn good to me. but not what one would expect from that massive cycle.
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Yeah I agree. He looks good but I would've expected more. He could defenitely bring up a few body parts.
 
Anybody doesn't see additional size in the legs, calves especially, is blind or just a hater. He is alot bigger in the 2nd set; more than 3 lbs to me. It's an impressive gain for 4 weeks but still a ridiculous cycle.
 
He has a solid build. He looks much better than the 3lbs he supposedly gained from this cycle. Im doubting he was able to get this in the four week cycle which is posted. I would guess he would look like that after a solid 10 to 12 week cycle, but four weeks into it...no way.
 
georgie24 said:
is he pro material? i dont see what the big fuss is over there
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What the !@#$...The hardly noticable improvement does not match the amount of gear this guy is using!!!
 
they should delete this thread cause some newbie is gonna read this and start taking 7 anapolan a day so he can look like this..
 
LOL@ the haters! hahahahhaha that he needs to work on bodyparts! that dude is jacked. I don't agree with the 10g's of gear a week...I think 1g a week is more than enough for an advanced user.
 
This has to be a joke the more I think about it. Taking 350 mg of anadrol a day? Come on, he'd be in a grave by now.
 
Holy shit... he gained what about 10 lbs of lbm... but ten grams a week, and other drugs with it to get there? I gained 32 lbs in one year from my famous pantyvatar to my current one, and spent most of the time on less than a gram total... used no insulin, hgh, or igf-1. Its rediculous that people think they need tons of gear in order to achieve results.
 
Paul Borreson used to advocate 6-week cycles of incredibly high dosages, I believe in the area of 4-6 grams/week.
 
Ya useto!!! Key word... Bottom line is though if you want to be huge you cant to beginner cycles. Not saying that this dude needes this much gear.


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He looks the same! The only difference is that he is bald now! The top two pics and the bottom two looks almost the same, I don't get it. He looks *slightly* bigger. For 10 grams a week he should look incredible, not like that.
 
And before anyone calls me a hater, I think I'm just used to seeing guys just as big, and in better condition like Quad, Needsize, AAP, Dialtone, etc who don't use anything near what this guy takes. And I honestly don't see a big change. He is very big, and does look good, but still not a big change for 10 grams of gear a week.
 
Yep he is big , but with 10 g a week he should be looking like Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman and he is not . Something is wrong.



Victor
 
Dial_tone said:
Paul Borreson used to advocate 6-week cycles of incredibly high dosages, I believe in the area of 4-6 grams/week.
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10 grams a week scare me :worried: I did better with 400mg week and 350mg fina than when on a gram a week, but thats me. I take insulin at that level but I was a diabetic before I started lifting.
 
that guy is just a fool! obviously his health is of no concern. he's not playing with a full deck. something's wrong with him
 
I think thats pretty impressive for only 4 weeks.
 
I guess what Im trying to say is, with that much gear and not big physical change, something else is not in check, most likely diet. Either that or the genetics just arent there, and in this case, he should find a newe hobbie, something a little easier on the body.
 
That guy looks good... but... he looks the same in both before and after pictures. It just looks like the after pictures were taken closer!
He must be a millionaire to afford all that stuff too!
 
My bro fucked around with to much insulin, ended up diabetic. Then eventually died of a heart attack. I guess some people think their invincible!
 
C3bodybuilding said:
And before anyone calls me a hater, I think I'm just used to seeing guys just as big, and in better condition like Quad, Needsize, AAP, Dialtone, etc who don't use anything near what this guy takes. And I honestly don't see a big change. He is very big, and does look good, but still not a big change for 10 grams of gear a week.
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I think the moral of this thread is: there's a limit to how much size you can gain in x amount of time, regardless whether you take 1 gram/week or 10 grams/week. The body can only adjust so fast. I think his gains are impressive for 4 weeks time, but piss poor for somebody who went thru 20+ grams to get them.
 
Dial_tone said:
I think the moral of this thread is: there's a limit to how much size you can gain in x amount of time, regardless whether you take 1 gram/week or 10 grams/week. The body can only adjust so fast. I think his gains are impressive for 4 weeks time, but piss poor for somebody who went thru 20+ grams to get them.
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Good point. 20 grams spread over 20 weeks would have yielded far more gains than slamming it all in 4. Honestly, a gram of week with some of the goodies he was using like hgh and insulin is enough to get quite massive if used for any length of time. While I personally am not a monster, I'm certainly larger than most guys on the board plan on getting, and have never done a gram of test a week with insulin and hgh. That type of stack is in all honesty for the bigboys who compete as heavyweights.
 
A guy my size should still be able to make gains on 600 mg a week by itself.

Still can't get over someone using 10 grams a week....besides someone like Ronnie or Jay.
 
10grams is definetely ridiculous...but for some 1gram is not enough. In order to be a real freak, doses have to go up (in talking to some top guys, it seems 2-4grams is the range for freaks.)

For the average juicehead, 1-1.5g is more than enough.
 
Jesuys christ!!!! guy looks good (rermember looking good to yourself in the mirror is different to looking good on photos) but look at how much his hair had receeded/thinned, that is just not worth it.
 
give me 600 mgs a week and I could do so much better. Love to see his blood test results. More juice is excuse for piss poor nutrition and lack of training
 
tuc biscuit said:
Jesuys christ!!!! guy looks good (rermember looking good to yourself in the mirror is different to looking good on photos) but look at how much his hair had receeded/thinned, that is just not worth it.
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he aged 5-10 years during that cycle, haha
 
His first week of sus, is my whole cycle of sus! :eek2:
Oh well....Even though i don't think he needed that much gear(especially insulin)...I think he made pretty good gains...I can definitely see his improvements...
 
I do see some improvement, I'll give him that. But If you look closely at the pictures you'll see that the before pictures are taken from a downward angle which would minimize his size and conversly, the after shots are taken from an upward angle. Also, the after pics are taken from a closer perspective. So yes there are gains there, but holy crap, there are not 10 grams of gear a week worth of gains there!!! Or should I say rather that if those are the gains that were achived from 10g's a week, then something else is off.
 
There's an email on his page, knucklehead.
 
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