Thinking of second cycle. Simple is safe.

[75th]

29 y/o
180 lbs
7%bf
15 years training

Planning on Test E @ 300mg/week for 10 weeks. Arimidex @ .25mg/ed during cycle and utilizing Testosterone Recovery Stack as PCT beginning one week following my last shot. I assume that due to the relatively simplistic nature of the cycle I would be able to leave out HCG/Clomid/etc.

First cycle was var only and I was happy with the results.

 

[-SD-]

looks good rob.
your height?

 

[75th]

looks good rob.
your height?

5'8 orbheim

 

[needtogetaas]

29 y/o
180 lbs
7%bf
15 years training

Planning on Test E @ 300mg/week for 10 weeks. Arimidex @ .25mg/ed during cycle and utilizing Testosterone Recovery Stack as PCT beginning one week following my last shot. I assume that due to the relatively simplistic nature of the cycle I would be able to leave out HCG/Clomid/etc.

First cycle was var only and I was happy with the results.

Nice step up bro. Looks good.

 

[thebigoz]

I would personally bump up the Test, but that's just me. I wouldn't exceed 500mg/week though.

If you're not prone to gyno, I would only take the AI when needed.

 

[joe d]

what you have will work fine. a couple things to consider, you may want to drop the adex down to .25 eod and see how it goes. you dont want to use to much of that stuff. if you dont mind some water retention you may want to not use the adex at all unless you start to get gyno symptoms. post cycle and unleashed is a cheap way to inhance the recovery process in addition to what you already have.

 

[needtogetaas]

Ya I would not use the ai ether. But if you know you are pron then do so.

 

[75th]

Never used any compound aside from var before, but much like with my "low" doses I like to take a more pragmatic approach. Perhaps Ill switch it to eod as you guys suggested. If nothing else it will cut down on the water retention.

Also, would you recommend something like Unleashed in addition to the TRS? Or will the TRS be good enough?

 

[needtogetaas]

Never used any compound aside from var before, but much like with my "low" doses I like to take a more pragmatic approach. Perhaps Ill switch it to eod as you guys suggested. If nothing else it will cut down on the water retention.

Also, would you recommend something like Unleashed in addition to the TRS? Or will the TRS be good enough?

Anything you add to the pct will not go to waist. And like you said you like to take a pragmatic approach. If they have it in the ef store you are only looking at another 15.00 bucks anyway.

 

[75th]

Sounds good.

 

[75th]

One more quick question...with the dosage Im running, would you suggest HCG thrown in during cycle or would it possible be overkill?

 

[abomb555]

i would personally run 2 inj ew of test e at 250mg bro...and if u can afford the hcg then yes i would recommend it my nutz would have been happier if i had lol
also just my opinon but for a really awesome ending...for the last 4 weeks throw in some beastdrol 3 ed....you'll go out like a monster!

 

[GOLUAN]

SOUNDS GOOD BRO...Dont go crazy like most of us do...me included

 

[75th]

i would personally run 2 inj ew of test e at 250mg bro...and if u can afford the hcg then yes i would recommend it my nutz would have been happier if i had lol
also just my opinon but for a really awesome ending...for the last 4 weeks throw in some beastdrol 3 ed....you'll go out like a monster!

I was thinking about upping it to 500mg/wk, but I figure why if I could get good results with 300mg and lower the risk of some of the side effects?

If nothing else, it gives me some extra to run again down the road.

 

[-SD-]

im interested in how the adex works for you for estrogen related effects since i will be running something very similar soon

 

[75th]

im interested in how the adex works for you for estrogen related effects since i will be running something very similar soon

Shut up.

 

[-SD-]

Shut up.

i was actally serious bor. my wiseassery stops when i leave the chat/bitch board

 

[75th]

i was actally serious bor. my wiseassery stops when i leave the chat/bitch board

Alright then.

What you think about the hcg rob? On the one hand, you could say any androgenic compound warrants its use. On the other, you could say its only 300mg/week.

You planning on using any during your old fogey hrt routine?

 

[-SD-]

Alright then.

What you think about the hcg rob? On the one hand, you could say any androgenic compound warrants its use. On the other, you could say its only 300mg/week.

You planning on using any during your old fogey hrt routine?

Hcg is necessary for every cycle to my knowledge. directly restores the HPTA faster and with LH production. then nolva and clomid on top of that.

 

[75th]

Hcg is necessary for every cycle to my knowledge. directly restores the HPTA faster and with LH production. then nolva and clomid on top of that.

Im gonna forego clomid and nolva and use the PP recovery stack along with some unleashed. Everyone seems to be raving about it.

 

[abomb555]

Im gonna forego clomid and nolva and use the PP recovery stack along with some unleashed. Everyone seems to be raving about it.

then i would absolutely recommend HCG...for sure

 

[75th]

Edit: Just read through the PCT sticky for an HCG dosage schedule.

 

[sweed]

looks good orb.
hcg can start mid cycle, or whenever (if ever) you seee a sign of testicular atrophy, up til pct.
Def keep us posted on this cycle.
When is the start date??

 

[-SD-]

i would expect 10 solid pounds kept from this cycle without any increase in BF

 

[75th]

looks good orb.
hcg can start mid cycle, or whenever (if ever) you seee a sign of testicular atrophy, up til pct.
Def keep us posted on this cycle.
When is the start date??

Planning on starting in about 3 weeks or so. Ill probably start HCG about 2 weeks in at a lower (400 iu per week) dose.

Just gotta figure out how to mix the damn shit.

 

[-SD-]

Planning on starting in about 3 weeks or so. Ill probably start HCG about 2 weeks in at a lower (400 iu per week) dose.

Just gotta figure out how to mix the damn shit.

I wouldnt think you would need hcg during cycle for such a light cycle, but if you have it to spare theres no harm. definetely need it pct though. and yes i will be using it along with nolva/clomid pct when i get around to my oldassed cycle.

 

[75th]

I wouldnt think you would need hcg during cycle for such a light cycle, but if you have it to spare theres no harm. definetely need it pct though. and yes i will be using it along with nolva/clomid pct when i get around to my oldassed cycle.

From what Ive read, its better to use HCG regardless of the hardcoreness of the cycle to aid in recovery when PCT rolls around. Anyone who has a different opinion feel free to let me know.

Why dont you forego the nolva/clomid and go with all natural PCT supps? Everyone seems to have good results on them with less sides.

 

[-SD-]

From what Ive read, its better to use HCG regardless of the hardcoreness of the cycle to aid in recovery when PCT rolls around. Anyone who has a different opinion feel free to let me know.

Why dont you forego the nolva/clomid and go with all natural PCT supps? Everyone seems to have good results on them with less sides.

Because I have to get off my oldschool ass and do some research. The last time I was into roids the World Anabolic Review 1996 was the premier book for jewsing

 

[Nelson Montana]

HCG isn;t a "throw in." It's a separate step to the process to speed things along. The T Recovery stack and UNLEASHED will take over. In 99 cases out of 100 clomid or nolva isn't needed.

 

[75th]

HCG isn;t a "throw in." It's a separate step to the process to speed things along. The T Recovery stack and UNLEASHED will take over. In 99 cases out of 100 clomid or nolva isn't needed.

Thanks for the reply Nelson.

Would 400iu per week starting in week 2 up until week 10 be sufficient?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks for the reply Nelson.

Would 400iu per week starting in week 2 up until week 10 be sufficient?

Depends on who you ask. I'm of the "do a couple of 500 iu shots at the end of the cycle" school.

 

[sshadoww]

I was thinking about upping it to 500mg/wk, but I figure why if I could get good results with 300mg and lower the risk of some of the side effects?

If nothing else, it gives me some extra to run again down the road.

Everyone is different but if it's your cherry cycle with Test I would opt for the lower dose and see how it works for you. I was doing around 350MG EW for my first test cycle and I blew up. I didn't need to ramp it up to 500mg ew until my 3rd cycle. Be smart- slow and steady wins the race. Best of luck.