Think oxandrolone is making me shed..

[Mad Max]

I've had the same thing happen. I've taken fina before with no problems and then a while later and the hair started to thin. Just like some people can take deca 3 times with no signs of gyno and the 4th time they get gyny. Go figuere.
---PEACE---Mad Max

 

[buffdoc]

1. Quick fallout like that is definately not DHT-based miniaturization, and probably wouldn't be helped by proscar/propecia. its more likely stress/drug-induced telogen or anagen effluvium. best to try something to reduce inflamation at the bulb (like folligen or other copper peptide product). Spiro probably can't hurt. search on "buffdoc" for some good stuff on hairloss prevention on juice.

Geoboy, you da man! I'm glad to see this message about miniaturization vs effluvium is getting out there.

 

[geoboy]

Thanks for the replies fellaz.

Geoboy: Now that you mention it, it feels a bit dry. I'm starting nioxin again hoping it will help. You mentioned it could be stress/drug-induced telogen or anagen effluvium. After stopping the stressor, is it expected that the hair will grow back?
I'm stopping the fina today, just to see how that goes.

My hairline is still in tact and still have all my hair. Just the fact that I get 10-12 hairs on my hand everytime i run my fingers through in the shower freaks the ever living hell outta me.

1. yes after stopping the stressor, the quick fallout should refill (if anagen will just start to grow at the hairline. if telogen, will go tru cycle -rest then growth. anagen =immediate regrowth, telogen means over 2-4 months will see regrowth). p.s. Tren would be the stressor here likely, not the anavar.

2. you mentioned noticed dry hair; is that on anavar alone, or when also adding tren or something else. iow, any dry hair on an anavar-only cycle for you?

 

[buffdoc]

Proscar will only inhibit the 5-ar enzyme responsible for the DH-conversions which are really only relevant with test. (And on top of it you DON'T wanna take it with deca cuz DHN is much more severe on the scalp than nandrolone itself).

Wrong!

 

[DaMan]

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(And on top of it you DON'T wanna take it with deca cuz DHN is much more severe on the scalp than nandrolone itself).

Wrong!

Whoops, fucked up... I meant the opposite. Good catch.

 

[Magnus Greel]

Real oxandrolone does not convert to DHT, so it is possible that your ox powder is suspect.....

 

[BigAndy69]

Ox powder could be winny...

 

[TraxZBT]

geoboy: yeah it was dryier than usual, but I suspect its just from the shampoo and nioxin in the past

BigAndy69: I also thought about this (wanted to get a melting point test today but couldn't find oxandrolone MP). Not getting any sore joints BUT on the other hand i'm getting pretty damn vascular and my strength has gone up on a calorie restricted diet.
Wow now that I look at it, how does one tell the difference between winny and anavar... being as both of them do about the same thing!

Magnus Greel: If it did convert to dht, I would think it would also convert to estrogen.. Being as how i'm extremely gyno prone and bloat at the sight of estrogen, i don't think it aromitizes BUT it can be DHT based... which is also bad as well.