Think I might want a divorce

[cindylou]

ever see the movie twins with Arnold in it? we gotta do something like that and make superhumans or a bunch of arnolds lol

That wasn't exactly what I was thinking lol. What would a world with only women look like? Would we have wars and high rise buildings or just dirt roads with flowers on the side? I'm sure in a world like that the aggressive women would take on the role of the Y chromosome.

 

[nangiggles]

this thread actually got me to thinking that maybe I have HIGH levels of T.... hmmmm.... interesting....

 

[musclemom]

this thread actually got me to thinking that maybe I have HIGH levels of T.... hmmmm.... interesting....

I think you have a perfectly normal sex drive, it just seems you have a high drive because you don't get enough.

Put it this way, Nan, if you:

1. Put on muscle relatively easily.

2. Carry excess body fat in NON estrogenic places, i.e., not the hips/thighs/butt but more around the waistline.

3. Are predisposed to more body hair than you'd like.

Then maybe you have higher testosterone, but not enough to cause issues. Over the long haul too high T in women causes health issues, i.e., excess facial hair growth, "male pattern" baldness, predisposition toward elevated cholesterol levels and cardiac disease, and depression. In fact, it's been speculated that postpartum depression may be linked to excess testosterone.

Women aren't wired like men. Success or failure of our sex drives are substantially more complicated than men. Basically, the male sex drive is virtually all mechanical, i.e., you could virtually chop off a guy's head and if he had enough testosterone in him he could still have sex (a comment I heard made by a male sex researcher, incidentally).

 

[javaguru]

I think you have a perfectly normal sex drive, it just seems you have a high drive because you don't get enough.

Put it this way, Nan, if you:

1. Put on muscle relatively easily.

2. Carry excess body fat in NON estrogenic places, i.e., not the hips/thighs/butt but more around the waistline.

3. Are predisposed to more body hair than you'd like.

Then maybe you have higher testosterone, but not enough to cause issues. Over the long haul too high T in women causes health issues, i.e., excess facial hair growth, "male pattern" baldness, predisposition toward elevated cholesterol levels and cardiac disease, and depression. In fact, it's been speculated that postpartum depression may be linked to excess testosterone.

Women aren't wired like men. Success or failure of our sex drives are substantially more complicated than men. Basically, the male sex drive is virtually all mechanical, i.e., you could virtually chop off a guy's head and if he had enough testosterone in him he could still have sex (a comment I heard made by a male sex researcher, incidentally).

MM is pretty solid with her advice.

 

[cindylou]

men are so uncomplicated, if you've met one you've met them all

 

[nangiggles]

I think you have a perfectly normal sex drive, it just seems you have a high drive because you don't get enough.

Put it this way, Nan, if you:

1. Put on muscle relatively easily.

2. Carry excess body fat in NON estrogenic places, i.e., not the hips/thighs/butt but more around the waistline.

3. Are predisposed to more body hair than you'd like.

Then maybe you have higher testosterone, but not enough to cause issues. Over the long haul too high T in women causes health issues, i.e., excess facial hair growth, "male pattern" baldness, predisposition toward elevated cholesterol levels and cardiac disease, and depression. In fact, it's been speculated that postpartum depression may be linked to excess testosterone.

Women aren't wired like men. Success or failure of our sex drives are substantially more complicated than men. Basically, the male sex drive is virtually all mechanical, i.e., you could virtually chop off a guy's head and if he had enough testosterone in him he could still have sex (a comment I heard made by a male sex researcher, incidentally).

Well that's the thing, I'm not saying it just because of the libido, I do put on muscle REALLY fast, to the point I'm currently over weight and by barely flexing my arms are still cut and without even trying so are my calves, I do have fast growing hair (I shave my legs at noon and I'm already raspy by night) have a not very girly voice, I am pretty strong for a chick... high libido... many hints are there... hmmm....

 

[musclemom]

Well that's the thing, I'm not saying it just because of the libido, I do put on muscle REALLY fast, to the point I'm currently over weight and by barely flexing my arms are still cut and without even trying so are my calves, I do have fast growing hair (I shave my legs at noon and I'm already raspy by night) have a not very girly voice, I am pretty strong for a chick... high libido... many hints are there... hmmm....

You might want to think about getting a hormone panel done. Things like extra body hair and extra muscle can be annoying or not (depending on your perspective). Cholesterol and cardiac issues however, that's a whole other ball of wax. Estrogen is actually cardioprotective.

 

[Smokescreen]

dude, you do not give your wife male hormones. That is why she is messed up. You might have permanently destroyed her natural ability to produce the hormones she needs.

I've read a lot on the female hormonal system. The best minds in the nation have little idea how it works. Female HRT works in many instances but in many instances it doesn't. It is not as simple as giving a female some test and estrogen. It is MUCH more complex than that. For guys it is much simpler. And there is tons of research out there on the effects of male hormones on males. With females it is mostly uncharted territory.

I wish her luck. She needs it.

If I said that "I" give it to her. Then that's not what I meant. I meant I get it for her and then give it to her. She's been doing bodybuilding and light female cycles way long before we even met. In fact, it is because of her that I go introduced into the bodybuilding world.

 

[digimon7068]

You might want to think about getting a hormone panel done. Things like extra body hair and extra muscle can be annoying or not (depending on your perspective). Cholesterol and cardiac issues however, that's a whole other ball of wax. Estrogen is actually cardioprotective.

my cholesterol is 120 (hdl) over 50 (ldl)...it has always been good, but it's actually better now than when i was not enhanced...so, i believe that evidence of such a connection is anecdotal at best.

 

[Smokescreen]

I'm back to let everyone know what's going on. Things with my wife have been great the last few days. And it turns out (she didn't tell me anything) that she's been on Testosterone, Estrogen, progesterone and DHEA now for a week. Last night while eating dinner, she told me she's been going to a new endocrinologist. And that he put her on these hormones. I asked her why she didn't tell me. And her reply was that she was afraid that the hormones would not work. And therefore, she didn't want to keep my hopes or her hopes up. And then have everything fail.

She pretty much kept telling me she's beginning to feel much better as each day goes by. And didn't realize of how miserable she felt. She said that she's been feeling that way for so long. So long that she slowly forgot of she used to be like before. Full of life and happiness and not a worry in the world.

She told me she's been sleeping better. And having nice dreams. Says she wakes up refreshed and energetic. And that all her negative and old thoughts have disappeared. Last night I decided to play "Rock Band" on the Xbox 360. And for ONCE in a long ass time she asked if she could play with me. I was so happy! I knew she was coming back from the darkness that has consumed her for so long.