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*They don't all use steroids*

i once read something about this. the IFBB does not want to test because the big freaky guys are the ones that draw the crowds and move products in the ads.

in the late 80s, i think, there was a period where BBs were being tested heavily for AAS which discouraged some pros from using. what happened? the crowds at shows complained and attendance fell. people WANT to see the freaky big guys.
 
Cornobbled said:
I am sick of these guys that are like. "I'm all natural. I have 13 creatine shakes, 26 protein shakes, amino acids, MRP'S, weight gain etc etc. but I am all natural. I don't juice." So you eat so much protein it is like eating 15 steaks a day. Real fucking natural ass wipe. Eating 1/4 of a cow per day is real natural. Get out of my squat rack.

One of the funniest cases is Jean Claude Van Damme. I guess he has Gynecomastia naturally and deloped it in his late 20's. LOL
 
whatever happened to Jean Claude VD? is he still an actor? there were always rumors flying around about his cocaine use, four marriages, and that he is secretly gay and HIV positive. he was always such a jerk.
 
pro bodybuilders drop like flies..its quite sad. all that for 100,000 dollars top prize money. that prize money went towards FOOD GEAR SUPPLEMENTS all year. bodybuilding is DEAD
 
glennds said:
whatever happened to Jean Claude VD? is he still an actor? there were always rumors flying around about his cocaine use, four marriages, and that he is secretly gay and HIV positive. he was always such a jerk.

I believe he is making low buget films through his own production company now. There is definitely some good money to made there strictly through video distribution.

Even though the guy may have some problems, I still enjoyed some of his earlier films. Especially, Bloodsport.
 
I am all for giving the people the benefit of the doubt, and you can get real big without gear, as long as you have the genetics, but i don't see how anyone could get remotely into the shape these guys do without boatloads of gear, dieting down to 3% and maintaining that much muscle is without a doubt impossible without a ton of shit. I beleive the ifbb tests for lasix and cocaine. It used to be clen, lasix and cocaine, but they dropped the clen i beleive. This is all something i have read, so don't quote the drug testing on part.
 
i knew before i clicked this thread that this will be a post number 1 for someone

also they only test for a diuretics and even at that they give you a list of the diuretics they test for and u can use others
 
concordsize said:
lol actually that is funny. I am friends with 1 pro and several top npc's and they will all do about everything BUT drink. Weird huu??

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Drinking = Bad Calories.

There are a lot of party people who will not drink a sip, but will pop Xtc like candy and do rail after rail. Most of the big guys love G. They actually beleive it helps them stay lean.

A lot of the heavier steroid users are trying to compensate for the loss of LBM that comes with partying hard.

I think that's where a lot of the 5grams and up of AS a week initially came from.

MDMA + Cocaine + Extreme Steroid Use + GHB for sleep = Large ripped physique (as well as about 20-25 years off your life.)
 
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