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There's No Such Thing As "Bridging."

chazk said:
cycling roids is not just about getting your nuts to come back ..
you cycle becuase you want to gain some muscle but come off and maintain some muscle while giving the body a rest
off cycle allows a break on the internal organs such as the spleen,liver,gallbladder,pancreas,heart,kindnies they all deal with stress of steroids in one form or anotherfiltering, breaking down ,excreting or internal organ growth.

If you want to stay on all year then thats your choice just rember the body never got a break from chemical toxicity.

Id rather cycle for 10-20 years 1-2 cycles per year and look decent then get all roided up for 5 years on high doses and have major healthproblems that force me to stop all together .Such as flex wheeler,don long,pual dillet and other numerous top amatures and pros that are now a shadow of them selves .

people forget when steroids make the muscles grow it makes the internal muscles grow its a sad fact that they dont wanna face and if you tell them anything other then what they want to hear it's all "hearsay" to them.

If you cant come off then its called a addiction and you might need professional help to over come it.

stay safe bros...Lets lift untill we die not die from lifting.
I agree with some of what you say and what you believe is very common. Again, if your going to stay on all the time there is a science behind it and I'm not going to go into it, but for starters, staying away from shit like dbol, anadrol, tren, and winstrol is a great idea. The simple fact is your not going to get big overnight no matter how much shit you take. It is a long drawn out process and you must have a highly anabolic environment to do this, that is just simple fact. The closest thing any of us will get to getting big overnight is the first 6-8 weeks of your cycle and most of that is water. This is where creating a new homeostatic l;evel comes into play and the only way to do that is to stay on for extended periods. Now if your looking to look good on spring break or for the summer, which most here are, then a cycle or two a year is fine. I know there are health risks and I'm willing to throw the dice. I want to take this as far as I can go because I believe I have the genetics to do so. At the same time I'm also being as safe as I can to ensure longevity. I made the mistake once of playing with too many harsh drugs at one time or prolonged periods and I had to come off, not due to any doctors advice but due to my own intuition. This is another thing, and Keith Richards is a firm believer in it too, that you must know your body and be able to listen to it. I wish everyone the best with their goals and I would definitely hope everyone wishes me the best in my endeavors even if it is not your cup of coffee.
 
chazk said:
not always a person that has done 3 cycles... will have a big advantage over a all natural guy that took no roids at all... they will have expanded their muscle fascia (sacks around the muscle) to be bigger then a all natural allowing them to be able to achieve bigger muscle growth when they do come off and build back up slower then the guy that could never break a platue at all being natural..

look at lot of " natural " ex juicers at these shows they have been off roids for atleast 5 years and they still look huge compared to the " lifetime naturals" thats never used at all
I agree with this. You create a new genetic limit once you've used. Before you cycled you were only able to bench 320, after you cycled and were off for quite some time , like 3-4 years your were able to get to 360 naturally. This is because you created a new genetic limit so to say but it only goes so far.
 
medical said:
Ummmmm.........it's called the Scientific Method you 'tard.


And so begin the personal insults.

You don't even know what you're talking about so I think it best if you keep quiet and let the grown ups speak.
 
Sam5 said:
I know there are health risks and I'm willing to throw the dice. I want to take this as far as I can go because I believe I have the genetics to do so. At the same time I'm also being as safe QUOTE]


I know when I roll the dice I rarley ever win .I have to consider a house,wife,making money and living a wonderful life. If I lose, I could lose all of that if i'm to sick to work and need organs transplated or have major health problems it could all vanish before my eyes.

I wish you the best sam5 I hope you find the road you travel a good one with your goals achieved at the end of it.Just be safe and as you said listen to your body then you never go wrong...Just rember its a roll of the dice you rolled um they will be up in the air for the next 5-7 years no one knows how they will land not me or you untill they land.
 
Nelson Montana said:
And so begin the personal insults.

You don't even know what you're talking about so I think it best if you keep quiet and let the grown ups speak.
Wait a minute: You said:
Nelson Montana said:
Not that there needs to be a study to prove wheater a theory is sound
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That is the most wrong, 180 degree backwards, non-sensical statement I have ever heard! Just how WOULD you prove a theory sound, then????
I think it's best if you keep quiet and let scientists debate matters of science. Your post was just a troll anyway so don't bash me for giving you exactly what you asked for.
 
CO B-man said:
Im going to bridge with HGH is that not called bridging?


It's not a steroid. Anything that helps get you from one place to another can be figuratively referred to as a "bridge."

REALITY CHECK!!!

sam5. If that's your pic, you look good bro. Great, in fact.

But answer me this -- honestly.

Do you think in another 3-4 years you'll look better than Coleman and Cutler and Ruhl and Martinez? Because you'll have to -- just to make enough money to pay the rent and buy the amount of gear you'll need. Bodybuilding is not a career. "Taking it as far as you can" means nothing, unless you're talking about what is indeed an (unhealthy) addiction as chazk said.

Right now, you'd be better off trying to do male model work. You'll make more money and get more women and you'll have a much better chance of living till 50.
 
Nelson Montana said:
It's not a steroid. Anything that helps get you from one place to another can be figuratively referred to as a "bridge."
Then with that statement you mean for the title should have read "There is no such thing as "brdiging" with another sterroid."
 
Nelson Montana said:
It's not a steroid. Anything that helps get you from one place to another can be figuratively referred to as a "bridge."

REALITY CHECK!!!

sam5. If that's your pic, you look good bro. Great, in fact.

But answer me this -- honestly.

Do you think in another 3-4 years you'll look better than Coleman and Cutler and Ruhl and Martinez? Because you'll have to -- just to make enough money to pay the rent and buy the amount of gear you'll need. Bodybuilding is not a career. "Taking it as far as you can" means nothing, unless you're talking about what is indeed an (unhealthy) addiction as chazk said.

Right now, you'd be better off trying to do male model work. You'll make more money and get more women and you'll have a much better chance of living till 50.
No, I don't think I'll be as big as Coleman, but neither was Titus, Sarcev, or a good number of pro's and hey, if I get to pro stage that would be great, but I just want to take it as far as i can go. that may mean only the NPC's, but at least I did my best. I think some of you get the wrong idea when i speak and I don't blame you, because unless I had you here in front of me and did the talking then it is hard to convey what I'm really doing. Also, doesn't this kind of go against one of your threads Nelson where you say that most do not do the mega doses. I think we both know that they do mega dose. As far as the money is concerned, maybe I shouldn't say this, but I have more shit than I know what to do with. I refuse to sell, in fact I give away some of it to good friends and that is it. I won't sell anything. So monster doses are not a problem. I've been on since July of last year just used prop and about 2 months worth of tren during that time. Won't do tren again probably, too many other compounds that are safer and less sides. I've been conservative all the way through, but have had to increase my doses naturally, goes without saying. I wouldn't say I'm going nuts right now, here it is. Monday I shoot 500mg of testosterone cypionate and 500mg of nandrolone decanoate, on Thursday I repeat this, on Sunday I just shoot 500mg of cypionate, no deca and i repeat this schedule. Now i just recently added the second 500mg of deca this last week and I may find that that is too much, but believe it or not I do not use anti-e's and get no sides whatsoever, well except acne which sucks. So as you see, for having the gear that I have I have not been stupid, but my trainer and friend (former Mr. Iowa) and I were on the way to the gym the other day and I brought up the question "I wonder what kind of results we'll get if we bump our doses up in the 3-4 gram range?" Right now he is only using 200mg of cyp and 200mg of deca so he knows it is best for him to stay there unless he needs to go up. He is 5'5" at 240lbs, a little fat, but not bad, so there is no reason for him to do so. And no I seriously doubt I could be a model at this point, not only does that pic not do me justice, it is about 6 months old. I was 225lbs there and now I'm at a solid 240lbs. So I'm still making gains which is great. Now that I've got a good training partner and my diet is in check I'm only expecting the best. I will get blood work done soon.
 
Sam5 said:
I believe cycling to be counterproductive. As I've stated, the only way you are going to maintain a hormonally enhanced physique is to be hormonally enhanced. You take the support away and its gone, plain physiology. I am a firm believer in blasting and cruising if you want to maintain a freak like look for lack thereof of a better word. There is no sense in going on then going off, going on then going off, ad nauseum. If you're going to choose this lifestyle then staying on is where it is at. Did I say it was healthy, no, but to attain a competitive physique for most this is the only way. This is another reason I tell people not to use steroids unless they are totally committed and especially if they are young (early twenties). Some or many may not agree with me but then I don't agree with 90% of you on any of these boards. Rarely do I come across a post or thread where I'm like "Yea, finally a guy who gets it and knows what the game is about." So respond on "experts". Especially you Anthony Roberts.
finally...thank you...looking foward to the junior nationals next year and cannot keep gaining and losing,gaining,and losing.
 
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