There's No Such Thing As "Bridging."

[ironclaw]

cycling roids is not just about getting your nuts to come back ..
you cycle becuase you want to gain some muscle but come off and maintain some muscle while giving the body a rest
off cycle allows a break on the internal organs such as the spleen,liver,gallbladder,pancreas,heart,kindnies they all deal with stress of steroids in one form or anotherfiltering, breaking down ,excreting or internal organ growth.

If you want to stay on all year then thats your choice just rember the body never got a break from chemical toxicity.

Id rather cycle for 10-20 years 1-2 cycles per year and look decent then get all roided up for 5 years on high doses and have major healthproblems that force me to stop all together .Such as flex wheeler,don long,pual dillet and other numerous top amatures and pros that are now a shadow of them selves .

people forget when steroids make the muscles grow it makes the internal muscles grow its a sad fact that they dont wanna face and if you tell them anything other then what they want to hear it's all "hearsay" to them.

If you cant come off then its called a addiction and you might need professional help to over come it.

stay safe bros...Lets lift untill we die not die from lifting.

I totally agree with you on the fact that if you can't come off, then its an addiction. Being a recovering addict myself, I can say that when I'm on, I don't want to come off, jsut for thte fact that I feel like shit for a few months before I go back on. And the more cycles I do, the longer I stay on without coming off. Ijsut came off a 10 month cycle, and plan on stayingon for 12-14 months, maybe longer when I go back on in 6 weeks.

 

[rdel85]

can any of the experience bros chime in on this a little more?

is it the majority opinion that doing 1 cycle, or even 2-3, in a lifetime will be useless in permanently altering a physique (provided diet and training don't falter)?

 

[Mac173]

can any of the experience bros chime in on this a little more?

I wouldn't say useless but it takes alot of work to mantain the extra mass that has been gained due to those cycles.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No, I don't think I'll be as big as Coleman, but neither was Titus, Sarcev, or a good number of pro's and hey, if I get to pro stage that would be great, but I just want to take it as far as i can go. that may mean only the NPC's, but at least I did my best.

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I UNDERSTAND. I DID THE NPC FOR THE SAME REASON. OF COURSE MY CYCLE WAS 200 MGS OF DECA A WEEK AND 25 MGS OF D-BOL A DAY. STILL, I PLACED. IT WAS MY BEST. SO FUCKING WHAT, I GOT A TACKY TROPHY. BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO SEE HOW FAR YOU CAN GO BY DOING AS MUCH GEAR AS POSSIBLE AND THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.


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Also, doesn't this kind of go against one of your threads Nelson where you say that most do not do the mega doses.
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MANY DON'T. THE OLD TIMERS DID A FRACTION OF WHAT GOES ON TODAY AND QUITE FRANKLY LOOKED, AT LEAST AS GOOD AS YOU. TODAY THERE ARE OTHER DRUGS INVOLVED BUT IF THE COST ISN'T AN ISSUE FOR YOU, IT ISN'T.


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Monday I shoot 500mg of testosterone cypionate and 500mg of nandrolone decanoate, on Thursday I repeat this, on Sunday I just shoot 500mg of cypionate, no deca and i repeat this schedule. Now i just recently added the second 500mg of deca this last week and I may find that that is too much, but believe it or not I do not use anti-e's and get no sides whatsoever, well except acne which sucks. So as you see, for having the gear that I have I have not been stupid, but my trainer and friend (former Mr. Iowa) and I were on the way to the gym the other day and I brought up the question "I wonder what kind of results we'll get if we bump our doses up in the 3-4 gram range?" Right now he is only using 200mg of cyp and 200mg of deca so he knows it is best for him to stay there unless he needs to go up. He is 5'5" at 240lbs, a little fat, but not bad, so there is no reason for him to do so. And no I seriously doubt I could be a model at this point, not only does that pic not do me justice, it is about 6 months old. I was 225lbs there and now I'm at a solid 240lbs. So I'm still making gains which is great. Now that I've got a good training partner and my diet is in check I'm only expecting the best. I will get blood work done soon.[/
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YEAH, AND TITUS WAS SELLING USED T SHIRTS ON HIS WEBSITE FOR MONEY BEFORE HE WAS BUSTED. SOUNDS VERY SUCCESSFUL. SARCEV WAS PRETTY FREAKIN BIG BRO BUT HE COULD NEVER BREAK THE TOP 5. BUT ALL THIS DOESN'T MATTER. YOU'VE MADE A CHOICE AND REGARDLESS TO WHAT ME OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE IT. BUT FOR 99.9% OF THE GUYS ON HERE, THEIR GOALS ARE DIFFERENT.






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[airsmith2k]

i know alotta guys that will come off and do hcg for like 6 weeks for the balls to grow back then just go rite back on

 

[Nelson Montana]

i know alotta guys that will come off and do hcg for like 6 weeks for the balls to grow back then just go rite back on

HCG just prepares the body to start functioning on its own. If you go right back on, you never really took a break.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Allright Anthony, because of your mature response I will stop attacking you. Honestly, a good part of the reason I feel the way I do is that another really respected trainer on a few other boards is constantly bashing you and I guess I'm guilty for being led along. Maybe I should read some of your stuff before I form my own opinion. I apologize and it won't happen again. So far you seem to be fairly credible so I'll leave it alone.

A lot of people attack me. Typically I earn for an hour of consulting what they earn for 16 weeks of contest prep...and although they seem to think they're also authors, they've never been published. Just something to think about...I co-wrote an article with Llewellyn, Kneller, and Collins....has this trainer who attacks me ever been asked to do something like that? Seriously...I'm not bashing him, and don't know who you're talking about...but think about what I'm saying.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I never liked the idea of bridging but Ulter once stated in a post that he has seen it used successfully and I assume he has the experience to make such a statment.

Since the male body produces about 10mg/day of testosterone (and continues to produce more) it's not unreasonable to believe that you could take 10mg/day of d-bol and recover some (not all) of your natural tesosterone production.

However, the idea of taking it in the AM in order not to conflict with the natural testosterone peak does seem suspect to me.

But the male body doesn't make 10mgs of Dbol a day....or 10mgs of Anadrol, etc...it makes testosterone...

See the flaw in the theory?

 

[needtogetaas]

You're either on or off.

"Bridging" is a theory started by a certain Meso guru whose rambings have been proven wrong on many occasions yet somehow, "bridging" was survived.

No wonder.

People like to hear what they want to hear. If you think that continuing to use gear with no supression or side effects and no loss of gains -- GREAT! But it doesn't work that way.

You can no easier recover through bridging than you can stop a leak in a boat by putting another hole in it to let the water out.

Deal with it.

I feel the same way.

 

[Sam5]

Hey Nelson, I respect your view, please respect mine and quit downplaying my goals and your own accomplishments. And your trophy is not tacky, it represents all the hard work and know-how it took to get to that point. Listen, I don't have kids, a wife, or even a loved one except my mom, dad, and brother. I don't have a degree and I don't have some high end job. The only thing I really have is my genetics so I want to take that and make the absolute best out of it. And like I said, I believe I'm being as safe as I can about this.

Oh and Anthony, the guy I'm referring to has made a name for himself over at Anabolex.com and Professionalmuscle.com and at least claims to train at least ten top pro's who step on the stage at the NOC, Arnold, and the Olympia and there are many other guys on the boards that confirm this. But anyway, like I said, I'm done bashing you. I do respect the fact that you have made a killing on the internet.