Then vs Now

[jsavoi01]

Hello all,

Ive been away for a few years, but have noticed that some things have changed. What I'm looking for is some of the reasons as to why there has been a change in philosophy.

For instance, it was bible that you took nolvadex for estrogen inhibition at about 20mgs per day throughout the cycle and through your pct. PCT started two weeks after your last long acting ester test. PCT was 1 week of clomid at 100mgs per day then 2 weeks at 50mgs per day. When did clomid stop having to be tapered, and when did nat supps replace clomid?

Also, ei's have been replaced by ai's, but yet I still see so many threads with people panicked for help because they have been taking aromisin since the beginning of their cycle, but still are getting gyno symptoms. What gives? 20mgs of legit nolva ed used to be plenty, but now these ai's have all these different dosing recommendations like ed, eod, etd.

Im about to cycle some test e 500mgs pw. Im gonna add some eq but was told that 600mgs pw is now the norm, not the 400 mgs pw that I was originally taught.

<<sigh>>

When I first started, hcg was a pct choice. Now everyone is yelling that it is a must during cycles.

The times have changed. I guess I will need to as well.

Thought??

 

[digit0x]

Its all wack bud.

 

[Bloodgame3]

guess people learned what those drugs really do and how to use them properly

 

[EZ_E]

Remember that sceen in "Coming to America" when Eddie Murphy says "Times must and always do change, my friend"

Years ago, football players wore leather helmets, technology advanced to the helmet of today...

Cars never had power windows, steering, etc...

New times bring new and often better solutions...

~EZ

 

[daveyboy2345]

400 mgs of EQ is still plenty when stacked with test.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nolva has always been to combat gyno. It mistakenly gained a reputation as something that helped restore the HPTA but that has been shown to be untrue. (Or in the least not proven). Nolva also has lots of nasty side effects.

I was one of the first to speak out against clomid back in 1998. There are still people that use it but most have come to realize it's pretty much a waste and there are better choices.

There used to be a "more is better" approach started by some self appointed internet gurus. They were wrong.

Dosages of HCG and anti e's have come way down. WHat guys used to use was total overkill.

I am not a believer in using HCG during a cycle. It should be used if you experience testicular atrophy and as a kick start after the cycle is over.

People used to think a drug is always better than something natural. Another stupid assumption. The name of the game is to get your body back without any help. The best way at this moment is

HCGenerate, UNLEASHED and a little arimidex during cycle

Followed by HMG -- 75 i.u's for 3 days

Followed by UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Aromoasin (There are also some good OTC anti e's)

Followed by BRIDGE.


Bro, that is one sweet transition. No crash and you can keep growing afterward.

 

[EZ_E]

People used to think a drug is always better than something natural. Another stupid assumption. The name of the game is to get your body back without any help. The best way at this moment is

HCGenerate, Unleashed and a little Arimidex during cycle

Followed by HMG -- 75 i.u's for 3 days

Followed by Unleashed, POST CYCLE, Aromoasin (There are also some good OTC anti e's)

Totally agree here, just finished up and used HCGenerate for the last 5 weeks....currently using Post Cycle and Unleashed....the boys look and feel great and absolutely no problems getting/maintaining an erection...

And mentally I feel great as well......I will be using the aformentioned products as a staple from now on...

~EZ