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They better pick up the pace this season. There were only like 3 episodes in Season 2 that weren't sleep-inducing. I'm wondering if this fortress will be the new farm or if they'll keep moving.
I'm hoping it picks up too and am pumped for tonight!!
Didn't they move from the farm already?
Yeah but they spent the whole season hangin around with their thumbs up their asses there lol. I hope there's a bigger plot point this season than looking for a missing person.
I think most of it is situated at a jail? Don't quote me on that
redsamurai
Banned
yeah it is, and the show now has roughly 1.."maybe" 2 episodes to keep me interested or im over it. Last season was so god awful i'm not really pumped about the new season.
First episode gets the season off to a good start. Already better than all of season 2 and half of season 1.
javaguru
Banned
Indeed, some of the best zombie kills ever, I enjoyed the "goon squad" zombies.
Really?? I couldn't disagree more.
Something tells me they will go to war with another group for the prison complex. Endless zombies will get slightly stale.... Can't believe I'm saying that.
javaguru
Banned
Zombies are a "force of nature." The humans are the dangerous ones.
Per the graphic novels, the season will probably stay at the prison. But it will be different than the farm....a lot of different dynamics, not just "kill the zombie of the day" episodes.
Zombies are retarded just saying
They look retarded for sure lol
uamaverick
New member
TWD books and game are way better than the show. In fact, I'd go as far as to say the show kinda sucks. Episodes 1-3 were fantastic, then it went downhill from there.
ismaele00
New member
Amen man.
javaguru
Banned
Michonne and Andrea will meet up with The Governor first; This season picks up after the end of winter.
redsamurai
Banned
saw the season opener last night, not too bad...but again i found myself micro forwarding through the small talk. Way too much time filler is still going on. Maybe some good deep shit is being portrayed but last seasons endless drivel has tainted me too much. The group still irritates the shit out of me, like how they got blind sided in the prison which led to Herchel getting his leg chomped. Its like they got the right idea outside when they lured the walkers to the gate and just stabbed them easily through the chinks. Just rinse/repeat that inside instead of exposing your self to having your retreat blocked off. And with Rick having the keys to everything couldn't they have ensured nobody came up behind them? couldn't they have sealed everything off?
javaguru
Banned
I agree about everything you posted once they entered the prison; Rick was thinking tactically until they went deeper into the prison. First, they should have secured the administrative section for floor plans and the location of off site resources. Then they should have restored power by securing the backup generators. Finally, they could secure the prison one section at a time with light and limited effort; Prisons are very compartmentalized to avoid the impact of riots; It has to be that way when you have 100 or more prisoners for every guard.
However, I suspend disbelief and partake of the drama.
javaguru
Banned
In reference to my second vid, Maggie is hot, she played Bella on Supernatural.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB31W1DdyNE&feature=related
Another kick ass episode, and next week's looks good as well.
javaguru
Banned
I agree, this was a good one.
On the Talking dead they characterized Rick locking the guy in the courtyard as more cold hearted than just killing him outright; I disagree, he had a fighting chance.
I knew they were going to kill that one prisoner. He was bad news.
javaguru
Banned
Yeah, especially once he "dealt" with "tiny;" Daryl called it for Rick and it's interesting Merl will be showing up.
redsamurai
Banned
merl will be showing up? no shit? nice. And yeah sundays episode was pretty damn good. I was actually shocked when Rick buried the machete in that dude's skull....but I completely understand. lol
javaguru
Banned
Yep, Merl is with the Governor...I like Daryl...interesting to see how it plays out.
redsamurai
Banned
they've been focuing too much on Rick and his wife and last season the asian kid, Daryl is the sleeper star of the show imho. Even when Shane was still around.
I finally saw the phalanx come out last episode, it's about time. Tough to suspend your beleif on the unlimited post apocalyptic ammo thing.
javaguru
Banned
Daryl is Rick's right hand...I like Daryl because I can relate to the character; Competent and efficient with little ambition.
Not to be too pissy but using riot shields overlapped would make them unstoppable in a confined space.
redsamurai
Banned
no i agree. Tdog has the right idea, he's got a spear holster in the riot shield...he's going spartan.
javaguru
Banned
The spear wall was the most effective military formation for centuries; Am I really this nerdy.
redsamurai
Banned
The spear wall was the most effective military formation for centuries; Am I really this nerdy.
nothing nerdy about it, that's hand to hand combat son. That's how we were meant to fight.
javaguru
Banned
nothing nerdy about it, that's hand to hand combat son. That's how we were meant to fight.
I would go with my Colt 1911 but in a post apocalyptic future saving the bullets are a good idea.
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javaguru
Banned
OK, I'm gonna nerd out; A slicing weapon isn't your best option if penetrating a skull is your objective. I'll take an old school war hammer...It was designed to pierce the brain bucket through armor.
redsamurai
Banned
OK, I'm gonna nerd out; A slicing weapon isn't your best option if penetrating a skull is your objective. I'll take an old school war hammer...It was designed to pierce the brain bucket through armor.
would get dicey if they got in close on you....the samurai blade can be brought up from any angle so it works well up close and at range. Remember these zombies have no armor so you could theoretically start the slash at the balls and go right up and through the skull....these zombies are squishy! And weight becomes an issue when your hvaing to wade through a horde of zombies. How many swings do you have with that hammer before your arms start to tire vs the samurai blade? A claymore style blade is about the only other hand to hand weapon i would consider outside the samurai blade or chinese long sword. You could potentially go through multiple zombies with one of them so the added weight would be made up for. Problem is that even if you cleave one of em in half they still ain't dead till the brains been hit....so gotta stay with the light blades.
The other thing i thought about hte other day is that bolt pistol from no country for old men. As those zombies are lined up against the fence you could just walk up and down the line and plunk each one in the forehead.
The spear wall was the most effective military formation for centuries; Am I really this nerdy.
lol..this made me laugh!! I don't think of those things but love the thread because I'll go watch it again with all these new ideas! I enjoyed the second episode too.
And tomorrow is Thursday already!!!
OK, I'm gonna nerd out; A slicing weapon isn't your best option if penetrating a skull is your objective. I'll take an old school war hammer...It was designed to pierce the brain bucket through armor.
A samurai blade will go through someone's skull with ease in real life. Light, fast, and in a zombie killing spree, it would be the best weapon. You literally could kill 20 zombies in one minute and not get tired.
Having taken martial arts the last few years and learning the sword, the quickness and efficiency of killing a group of people in a crowd with a hand held weapon is best done with a samurai blade. Knowing proper striking techniques should not make your arms tired for an extended period of time.
A bat doesn't cut, a large sword is way too heavy and slow, a spear is not very agile and versatile, a mace is too slow.
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psizzle_8
Guest
So glad someone made a thread...
I love zombie movies, I didn't know TWD was out til I came across it on Netflix one night...watched the first season easily in a day, watched the 2nd season in 2 days...I'm spoiled now
Read where they're doing half the season now and taking a break, picking it back up next year. I HATE THAT
I love zombie movies, I didn't know TWD was out til I came across it on Netflix one night...watched the first season easily in a day, watched the 2nd season in 2 days...I'm spoiled now
Read where they're doing half the season now and taking a break, picking it back up next year. I HATE THAT
So glad someone made a thread...
I love zombie movies, I didn't know TWD was out til I came across it on Netflix one night...watched the first season easily in a day, watched the 2nd season in 2 days...I'm spoiled now
Read where they're doing half the season now and taking a break, picking it back up next year. I HATE THAT
They have to split it if they even try to stay anywhere nears the novels which they can't cause hbo wouldn't even air that kind of violence. There is just too much material to cover.
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psizzle_8
Guest
I see. I'm thinking of getting the books, books are always better. Sounds like these are pretty badass
javaguru
Banned
A warhammer weighs less than three pounds and is about two feet long with points on all sides; That makes it a very versatile weapon. Remember, it was developed near the end of the armor evolution in Europe where they had tremendous personal experience in hand to hand warfare. Combined with a riot shield in a formation it would be a very versatile and effective weapon. You can turn to the base or head to thrust, half grip it or grip at the head for closer combat.
javaguru
Banned
Many a knight that was trained from the age of seven to be a warrior was brought down by a man at arms wielding nothing more than a glorified labor tool.
If you use a katana you have to fight like a warrior as opposed to a soldier, that will get you killed; Close order disciplined infantry beats warrior every time.
redsamurai
Banned
sorry java, samurai blade beats every other handheld weapon there is for zombie killing. With your hammer you're killing one zombie max per swing. The samurai blade gives you arcs that could potentially take down more than one per swing. One of the lightest quickest weapons ever made. Only thing better would be the chinese long sword which is the same damn thing just longer
Chinese traditional battlefield swordsmanship
Chinese traditional battlefield swordsmanship
Many a knight that was trained from the age of seven to be a warrior was brought down by a man at arms wielding nothing more than a glorified labor tool.
If you use a katana you have to fight like a warrior as opposed to a soldier, that will get you killed; Close order disciplined infantry beats warrior every time.
We're talking about killing mindless zombies man, not armored men.
Soldier vs. Warrior comparison makes no sense in the context of choosing a handheld weapon.
javaguru
Banned
Fight as one and die as one; Even today, the shield wall is used by military and police in riot control because it's just that effective. Train for thirty years with your katana but I'll bring you down with ten disciplined men with a few weeks of training and the right cooperative weapons.
Forensic scientists have examined the corpses of ancient battlefields. The average Roman legionnaire was 5'4" tall and the average German warrior was 5'9 1/2", the same height as the average modern American male. Regardless of the disparity in physical prowess, the disciplined military always beat the warrior when they faced off on equal terms.
I don't disagree, but we're talking about killing zombies Java, gosh dammit!! They don't get in formation and tactfully try to pick you off.
javaguru
Banned
They do move like an occupy Wall Street mob.
Zombies are a "pack" or "mob" in The Walking Dead; They can't actively concentrate mass but the living can which means you can beat them at their own game. It ain't flashy but it will work and keep you alive and that's what matters.
javaguru
Banned
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Dang it woman! Comment on my Hell on Wheels thread...objectively!
I've never seen it. It shares the same time slot as Cupcake Wars, and I never miss Cupcake Wars. Ever.
Anxious for tonight's episode. Governor and the first real authority since mid season 1 make their debut.
True. Just look at the Spartan Army. Life revolved around disciplined military since birth for males. So much so that women were allowed and encouraged to own property and actually had more rights than most men of other regions.
You can download the first two episodes and catch up before it starts...lol
gatemoney
Banned
Stfu and die
I think both inmates
redsamurai
Banned
you could still use the sam blade behind a shield wall. And if things broke down you could start swinging it normally. It's still the best anti zombie weapon. Light and with a devestated cutting blade against normal flesh. Again if we're talking about heavily armored foes the equation changes, but against squishy zombies the light long and incredibly sharp blade that is the samurai sword is unmatched. Now if we start talking like super crazy shit like a chain saw attached to an extended arm, then we can have some more discussion.
Flash421
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I was thinking merl lol inmates make more since
Merle wouldn't risk killing his brother just to fuck with Rick
I do think it's coming down to a war between the living though.
None of you comic book readers ruin it for me, I like not knowing what is gonna happen next
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psizzle_8
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Ok guys, let's hear it...
1. What's in the tea? Notice all who drinks it seem complacent...michonne didn't have any...and he consulted the doc about it...
2. Heads in the tank...?
3. I wonder if its the inmates fuckin w the group BUT that's also kinda obvious...we haven't seen much of Carl, think his little punk ass has something to do with it...?
4. When they were checking out Michonne's pet zombies heads their eyes were rolling around n stuff, that shouldn't happen...also notice they had tubes hooked up to them...the tea?? Something else that made them become alert??
Hate episodes that spend all the time establishing shit, I like action :-/
1. What's in the tea? Notice all who drinks it seem complacent...michonne didn't have any...and he consulted the doc about it...
2. Heads in the tank...?
3. I wonder if its the inmates fuckin w the group BUT that's also kinda obvious...we haven't seen much of Carl, think his little punk ass has something to do with it...?
4. When they were checking out Michonne's pet zombies heads their eyes were rolling around n stuff, that shouldn't happen...also notice they had tubes hooked up to them...the tea?? Something else that made them become alert??
Hate episodes that spend all the time establishing shit, I like action :-/
We just keep getting better and better friends lol
1. I thought the same about the tea, but it's a bit of a stretch (but I guess so is a zombie apocolypse)
2. Heads in the tank may just be that twisted fks form of trophies. The newest one was the heli pilot.
3. IDK if Carl is a big enough of a shithead to put everyone in danger like that, especially Rick.
4. You've got me there. Every other dead zombie just died...and stayed dead...
5. Nobama 2012!
4. Zombies live until the brain is destroyed. A head still lives, just that a body will stop without a head. That's my guess.
3. I think it's the inmates, because the preview showed Rick confronting them. "I thought we had an agreement."
2. The Governor obviously is sick and twisted and the heads are his keepsakes, like Jeffrey Dahmer.
1. I didn't pay that much attention to the tea. IDK. The Governor drinks it too.
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psizzle_8
Guest
Lmao! You're right!
As far as Carl goes, reason I brought him up is because Lori went off on him when he thought he did well for the group, so maybe he had a "fuck it, I'll just do my own thing then and see how they do without me" type attitude..
And as far as the tea goes, come on. It kinda adds up and makes sense if you think about it. The "gov" is obviously a power hungry guy, didn't want to bring the military guys in to possibly stand up to him...I honestly didn't even think of the tea til I read the comments on TWD's Facebook page and saw so many people asking about it
Yes, I know they're his trophies. but I was talking about when they were first examining them, when he came in and the doc was explaining everything.. the heads were separated from the body, yet reactive when the gov was touching them and stuff.. that usually doesn't happen.. but they seemed to be hooked up to some sort of feeding tube..
Maybe I'm overreaching, but it's all possible. BE SUNDAY ALREADY SO I CAN KNOW..fuck
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psizzle_8
Guest
3. Yeah, but you know sometimes the way they edit the previews for next week episodes (this goes for all shows, I'm a big True Blood fan and they ALWAYS do this) they usually make it seem like one thing when it's really another. They might be showing us that to make us think its the inmates when it might not be. Maybe during this confrontation something happens to prove it isn't them..
2. Yeah, this is true. Also though, on TWD's facebook page, I saw someone mention (this was a spoiler for me) the gov's daughter who is supposedly a zombie.. perhaps he's holding an experiment with finding a cure for his daughter being his primary motive? It's a stretch, but not impossible
Well, he did make a point to stress that he thought there was still a remnant of the original thought process left in the zombie brain. Think maybe he's got a whole town structured up to provide a safe place to experiment to try and bring his daughter back?
Thanks for the spoiler btw lol ya jerk!
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psizzle_8
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Haha yeah yeah, the douche on those FB comments spoiled it for me
and yeah that's what I was thinking.. man, who knows. You know it's a good show if it keeps you guessing.PS when are you making your log? I didn't know you were running the K too. I like how sponsors are spreading the love to MC for all these logs.. lol
javaguru
Banned
How about we talk about those rag bag NG not having 360 degree security? WTF, I can understand not digging fighting positions when you've been facing shambling zombies for a year but 360 degree security is always important, infantry tactics 101.
Yeah it just came in the mail, and my gw showed up the same day, so I figured I might as well add it in! I'll be starting tomorrow. Probably won't add S4 this go round. Osta, GW, and K3 should be plenty to lean out a good bit
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psizzle_8
Guest
Not a bad plan. You'll love the GW. I did. Keep me updated!
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psizzle_8
Guest
Yeah, I was wondering this too.. guess they were just shell-shocked and waiting for the return of their other man.. not too sure
Dont wory Bigbass, as of tonights episode they ran so far off the reservation from the comics that the show seriously has become its own thing.
I love the comics they are very well written and the story is fantastic, but in reality what happens in the comics with this particular plot with the govenor could not even be shown on HBO,
This shit that happens is so brutally violent if they made a movie straight outta the comic it would be NC17.
Its actually kind of moot to even compare the show to the comics anyway, the show has already left out about 6 characters who play not huge but signifigant enough roles, and there have been A LOT of additions in the show that were never in the comics.
enjoy the show, but if you can or want to read the comic, or if you really want to see how much of a sick fuck the govenor really is just read this short blip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Governor_(The_Walking_Dead)
and that will give you a taste of how much of a sadist this man is
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psizzle_8
Guest
damn...makes me wanna read the comics
javaguru
Banned
I'm pretty good at suspending disbelief but two things always jolt me out of the story. The first is unlimited ammo supply for weapons and the other is people that are supposed to be military ignoring tactics 101; At least invest in a good consultant for your series or movie. The governor should have led them close to the compound while he secured their trust, like the politician he is, and once they voluntarily disarmed slaughtered them. No military unit, let alone a US trained one, would have been that unprepared.
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