the Universe Is Not "Billions of Years"Old (Imnotdutch)

[CardinalSin]

Moron, the UNIVERSE is billions of years old. The earth and the solar system and niagra falls are not the UNIVERSE. they are younger.

I dont reprimand you for having faith, but this is one of the most moronic threads ever.

No time = no evolution? NO SHIT sherlok holmes. Let me give you a quick lesson. God did not make you. You evoved from a monkey. The reason we have intelligence is because some monkeys evolved to be bipedal, so they could use their hands for something other than walking around. Use of hands = tools = intelligence and manipulating the environment. Its simple, we are not special or blessed by a wizard in the sky, we are simply the ONLY bipedal mammals. That is why we have intelligence and why we are superior to all other creatures. What compels you to not accept this as the truth.

 

[big_bad_buff]

the Catholic church, admits that the universe is old.

wow man, this is the best argument i have heard so far LOL

 

[big_bad_buff]

Moron, the UNIVERSE is billions of years old. The earth and the solar system and niagra falls are not the UNIVERSE. they are younger.

I dont reprimand you for having faith, but this is one of the most moronic threads ever.

No time = no evolution? NO SHIT sherlok holmes. Let me give you a quick lesson. God did not make you. You evoved from a monkey. The reason we have intelligence is because some monkeys evolved to be bipedal, so they could use their hands for something other than walking around. Use of hands = tools = intelligence and manipulating the environment. Its simple, we are not special or blessed by a wizard in the sky, we are simply the ONLY bipedal mammals. That is why we have intelligence and why we are superior to all other creatures. What compels you to not accept this as the truth.

where are your facts? let's see them. I want to see a pre-human, you know a monkey a few million years before it decided to turn into a human. that must be what midgets are eh? or big foot? wodin? for that matter i want to see every variation between every single animal there is. oh i forgot, the close variations died out, and there are no fossil records, now we can only see the large leaps, but you can't prove any of it. my bad. but i think i would rather beleive in hairy potter in the sky than a guess that can't be proven

 

[big_bad_buff]

You must have missed the "Noah's Ark" thread where buff has disproved (via some obscure website) that carbon dating doesn't work...

You better run right out and join you a church, bro.

carbon dating is not a reliable source at all, especially past a certain age. anyone that does a little research should find this out rather quickly. i just think it's funny that people think lie detector machine and breath testing machines are shit. but when it comes to a machine that can tell if something is billions of years old, then it has to be correct, and they back it 100% without a doubte. it just surprises me how ignorant some people are.

 

[bigguns7]

Let me give you a quick lesson. God did not make you. You evoved from a monkey. The reason we have intelligence is because some monkeys evolved to be bipedal, so they could use their hands for something other than walking around. Use of hands = tools = intelligence and manipulating the environment. Its simple, we are not special or blessed by a wizard in the sky, we are simply the ONLY bipedal mammals. That is why we have intelligence and why we are superior to all other creatures. What compels you to not accept this as the truth.

So what is the evolved form of an otter? They are not bipedal of course, but they can use their hands and use tools. And I guess if you want to talk about manipulating the environment, then otters are smarter than monkeys, as they have managed to learn to live on both land and water.

So is there some other species out there, smarter than humans, that has evolved from sea otters?

It's cool that you're not a creationist, but don't put forth some bullshit fact and expect people to swallow it whole.

 

[Frackal]

God and evolution are not mutually exclusive...in fact I think that evolution is one of god's greatest creations.

 

[big_bad_buff]

Assuming that no comets were created after. A stupid assumption, as everyone can see.

That author forgets to mention that both isotopes are products from other radioactive products. U-236 and Th-230 are formed from more heavy radioactive isotopes. His assumption is therefore wrong.

New star clusters are formed in the universe and are younger than billions of year.

So the Niagara Falls are not that old. What does that say about earth´s age? Absolutely nothing.

Same as above.

Another source of heat is radioactive process in the inner parts of the planet. The author doesn´t mention it.

And these are just the faulty facts that an amateur like me saw when reading through it once. I´d like to see a real scientist tear that apart. I´m pretty sure most "facts" here are taken out of context.

(what does this mean? )Assuming that no comets were created after. A stupid assumption, as everyone can see.

why is Niagara Falls were it is today? and not already eroded itself into the ocean? (erosion rate is 2.5 feet i believe, but not sure)

were are the rest?

 

[big_bad_buff]

God and evolution are not mutually exclusive...in fact I think that evolution is one of god's greatest creations.

yes, I agree, microevolution is.

 

[CanadianCripple]

So the earth is only a few thousand years old?

Am I to assume you believe continental drift is not a fact? There was no Pangaea after all?

Don't get me wrong. I believe in God, but people who stick with the literal 7 days creation drive me nuts. I think the 7 day, 1 day = 1000 years theory is simply a way to explain we're in the end times. (of all the clues, i believe this is the weakest)

So all of this happened in 6000 years? Creation of the universe (as somebody pointed out, different from creation of the earth), formation of the earth, skipping a lot..., Pangaea separates into the continents, dinosaurs, numerous 'creations' of Homo erectus (hominid) type species and the subsequent extinctions of all except Homo sapiens.

I don't see the difficulty (even creationists) in believing this timeline is generally accurate:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/nature/9901/earth.history/frameset.html

 

[big_bad_buff]

here is another one for you guys.
http://www.angelfire.com/nt/fairytales/coal.html


carbon dating
http://www.angelfire.com/nt/fairytales/carbon.html