The strongest man ever ?

[kethnaab]

there are answers contained within this thread that truly indicate why I am against the ridiculous amounts of assistance gear that today's powerlifters wear.

people think that the big fat dude who "squatted" 1200 is stronger than Kaz, who was just under half a ton with nothing but a belt and some knee wraps. I'm sure Miller is a powerhouse, but as someone said, a 600ish deadlift combined with a 1200 squat?

puh-leez. anyone who has powerlifted knows that the suit works for you a lot more in the squat than the deadlift.

fat dudes are also better at squatting than deadlifting by a significant amount because in the lowest point of the squat, the big 45-50" bellies assist getting out of the hole, almost as much as the bouncey groove briefs and triple-ply denim squat suits.

c'mon guys, Kaz was THE MAN!

 

[Micker]

The strongest person on earth is probably some guy in a village that you've never heard of out plowing a field or something and throwing big stones out of his way to get his work done.

Not in todays world. That person you talk about may have the POTENTIAL to be the strongest, but without the use of drugs and hard core lifting programs, no way could someone be stronger naturally then these drugged up, intensely trained freaks.

As far as the most impressive strongman, I think that belongs to Magnus ver Magnusen(sp). He wasn't freakishly huge, or muscular, but for his size, he made those strongman events look so easy. Other guys much bigger then him couldn't even come close.

I guess you need to ask a more detailed question. There isn't one guy who is the strongest upper and lower body. There isn't one superman so to speak. I guess the closest you could come would be to take the highest triple number and say that is the all around strongest guy, even though he may not be the strongest at any one event. It would be cool if there was one guy who could bench, squat, DL, curl etc. more then anyone else, but I don't think that person exists.

 

[sigmund]

Not in todays world. That person you talk about may have the POTENTIAL to be the strongest, but without the use of drugs and hard core lifting programs, no way could someone be stronger naturally then these drugged up, intensely trained freaks.

As far as the most impressive strongman, I think that belongs to Magnus ver Magnusen(sp). He wasn't freakishly huge, or muscular, but for his size, he made those strongman events look so easy. Other guys much bigger then him couldn't even come close.

I guess you need to ask a more detailed question. There isn't one guy who is the strongest upper and lower body. There isn't one superman so to speak. I guess the closest you could come would be to take the highest triple number and say that is the all around strongest guy, even though he may not be the strongest at any one event. It would be cool if there was one guy who could bench, squat, DL, curl etc. more then anyone else, but I don't think that person exists.

I wonder how that German kid with the myostatin gene mutation could turn out if trained? I think we'll see some significant increaes in record lifts in the coming years as gene manipulation becomes more mainstream.

I don't know who the strongest man ever is... perhaps Kazmaier, I'm not sure how it can be worked out conclusively as the criteria is so variable... I do like Pudanowski, he is rapid / agile for such a strong guy.

 

[b fold the truth]

Kazmaier hands down. A 2425 total with no shirt or suit is still unbeatable today. I witnessed him rep 150 lb dumbells in the seated overhead press 31x at the age of 48 (World Record).

Kazmaier would have benched 800 pounds if he hadnt torn his pectoral and hit 700 out of competition. Add a bench press shirt to that and we're talking upper 800's easily.

OD Wilson?

Couldnt even finish a 200 meter event in the WSM. Lifts never exceeded Kazmaier's - OD is "Good at loading events"? - Kazmaier took each implement and threw them from over 15 feet instead of running up to the truck and loading them. He finished in half the time of the nearest competitor.

Magnus ver Magnusun?

Dominated speed events but never power events.

Botttom Line:

Kazmaier owned the world of Powerlifting and was the most dominant WSM champion ever. He won once with 8 firsts a second and a third. Dominated another with similar stats. Won his last with a torn pectoral.

Kaz was great for his time. I have videos of ALL of his contests (even the crazy ones that were not shown on TV in the US). If you look back at all the WSM's that he won...basically all the events were the same and few of them were even close to what the Strongmen of today do at a much lesser level.

Kaz did not throw the beer kegs from 15' away. The Keg was maybe 4-6' away when he threw them and they were 160 pounds each...not the 250-350 that we see at contests today. He did not throw ALL of them either. Did you notice that in the next years contest he didn't finish very well at all in the keg loading? He didn't throw a single one either.

Kaz amazing? Yes. But...as the Strongman EVENTS were born he was not only a little aged but also did worse and worse as the events turned away from conventional powerlifting. Jon Pall Sigmarsson seemed to excell and go beyond.

It would be tough to say that Mariuz is not the greatest of all time...would be a tough decision. So many great ones out there over the years but as the sport has changed...so have they.

B True

 

[IGNITE]

He did not throw ALL of them either. Did you notice that in the next years contest he didn't finish very well at all in the keg loading

Ahola is also up there! Kiri!?

Best Strongman Athlete: Mariusz/MVM

Best Strongman: KAZ

 

[daverelli]

Kazmaier hands down. A 2425 total with no shirt or suit is still unbeatable today. I witnessed him rep 150 lb dumbells in the seated overhead press 31x at the age of 48 (World Record).

Kazmaier would have benched 800 pounds if he hadnt torn his pectoral and hit 700 out of competition. Add a bench press shirt to that and we're talking upper 800's easily.

OD Wilson?

Couldnt even finish a 200 meter event in the WSM. Lifts never exceeded Kazmaier's - OD is "Good at loading events"? - Kazmaier took each implement and threw them from over 15 feet instead of running up to the truck and loading them. He finished in half the time of the nearest competitor.

Magnus ver Magnusun?

Dominated speed events but never power events.

Botttom Line:

Kazmaier owned the world of Powerlifting and was the most dominant WSM champion ever. He won once with 8 firsts a second and a third. Dominated another with similar stats. Won his last with a torn pectoral.

neither Kaz nor anyone else on Earth has or will ever seated db press the 150's for 31 reps, Kaz did the 100's for like 40 but thats a whole different ball game than the 150's for 31.

 

[daverelli]

there are answers contained within this thread that truly indicate why I am against the ridiculous amounts of assistance gear that today's powerlifters wear.

people think that the big fat dude who "squatted" 1200 is stronger than Kaz, who was just under half a ton with nothing but a belt and some knee wraps. I'm sure Miller is a powerhouse, but as someone said, a 600ish deadlift combined with a 1200 squat?

puh-leez. anyone who has powerlifted knows that the suit works for you a lot more in the squat than the deadlift.

fat dudes are also better at squatting than deadlifting by a significant amount because in the lowest point of the squat, the big 45-50" bellies assist getting out of the hole, almost as much as the bouncey groove briefs and triple-ply denim squat suits.

c'mon guys, Kaz was THE MAN!

totally agreed, Kaz pulled 886 officially and rumor had it that he did 900 in training, the guys from the 70's and 80's were stronger than the guys today no doubt about it.

 

[Throw2Far]

BILL KAZMAIER!

I agree completely with Tony Fitton's post... I saw him rep the 150's live back in my JuCo days... Kaz's 2425 is still untouchable unsuited and I have NEVER seen such a dominating performance in the Strongman events. Period.

I'd like to see Marius pull 1055 on the silver dollar deadlift.

 

[Throw2Far]

As for the athlete comment? Marius? MVM?

Did anyone witness Kazmaier's run at professional wrestling? He was touted as the future of the D-Line for the Packers before he was drawn back into WSM. He was not only strong, but exceptionally athletic.

Bill Kazmaier is not only the Strongest Man in history, but the Worlds Greatest Strongman. I was in the audience of a YMCA tour in which he encouraged children to become strong, Body Mind and Spirit. He has toured the past 10 years and provided a great example for young children around the nation. He shares his witness of Jesus Christ and how he has become saved. He provides an example for many children that would otherwise look to 50 Cent or Eminem. He opens up the childs minds by inspring awe in strength events and then opens their hearts by delivering the word of god. He not only speaks in front of children but highschool age and army bases as well. Bill Kazmaier is a man for the ages.

 

[Throw2Far]

PS. Paul Anderson was an amazing man as well. I visited his ranch as a young child...