The strongest man ever ?

[BigPM]

Who is your choice for the strongest guy there has been?

There have been a lot of very strong strongmen who had WORLD RECORDS in Power Lifting (eg Kazmaier,Kiri,Karlsen,Noren,Wilson,Badenhorst,Bolton). But who do you think is the strongest?

I'll put five names forward for my choices Louis Cyr,Doug Hepburn,Paul Anderson,Riku Kiri,Hugo Girard.

Here's a good thread I found http://www.fortifiediron.net/invision/index.php?showtopic=16739

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

Magnus Ver Magnusson

 

[BigPM]

Magnusson is nowhere near as strong as Paul Anderson.

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

Magnusson is nowhere near as strong as Paul Anderson.

who

 

[b fold the truth]

Magnusson is nowhere near as strong as Paul Anderson.

Since they can not be compared because neither of them did the same sport....you can not make that judgement.

B True

 

[Da Man]

i would have to say................ME

 

[perkele]

Riku Kiri

 

[vansmack2000]

gregg valentino LOL

 

[flex229]

that's easy...bill and shawn phillips

gregg valentino LOL

 

[Robert Jan]

What about the Iranian guy who got the new world records in the OL heavyweights

 

[SuperDawgy]

Kaz was the man in his day, but you've got guys like Kennelly and Rychak now that are putting up weights that were once unthinkable. 1003lb on bench! How much stronger can they get?

 

[Scotsman]

Kaz was the man in his day, but you've got guys like Kennelly and Rychak now that are putting up weights that were once unthinkable. 1003lb on bench! How much stronger can they get?

Kaz put up 660 without a bench shirt and would have done much more but tore his front delt and peck loose bending a bar in the strongman. He also squatted and dl'd in the 800+ with only a belt. Not to take anything away from Ryan and Gene but they are bench specialists.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[SuperDawgy]

Kaz put up 660 without a bench shirt and would have done much more but tore his front delt and peck loose bending a bar in the strongman. He also squatted and dl'd in the 800+ with only a belt. Not to take anything away from Ryan and Gene but they are bench specialists.

Cheers,
Scotsman

I know, but think about this...if Gene started competing in three lifts and only had a 600 squat and 700 dead (which is feasible) he has a 2,300 total. Not shabby. I'm also suprised that nobody has mentioned Anthony Clark.

 

[Scotsman]

I know, but think about this...if Gene started competing in three lifts and only had a 600 squat and 700 dead (which is feasible) he has a 2,300 total. Not shabby. I'm also suprised that nobody has mentioned Anthony Clark.

Gary Frank has a 2,700 total because of his huge squat and dead. Also with Clark he is a bench specialist, plus his big presses were dq'd because he benches reverse grip. Also look at guys like big Mike "the mule" Miller who posts on here, 800+ bench 1,100+ squat mid 600's dead. I think his last total was 2550 or so. Here again comes the argument that you can't really compare lifts in strongman to powerlifting or olympic lifting because each is more of a specialty.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[SuperDawgy]

Gary Frank has a 2,700 total because of his huge squat and dead. Also with Clark he is a bench specialist, plus his big presses were dq'd because he benches reverse grip. Also look at guys like big Mike "the mule" Miller who posts on here, 800+ bench 1,100+ squat mid 600's dead. I think his last total was 2550 or so. Here again comes the argument that you can't really compare lifts in strongman to powerlifting or olympic lifting because each is more of a specialty.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Very true, so in your opinion...who is the "strongest" of all time. All disciplines taken into account.

 

[Scotsman]

Very true, so in your opinion...who is the "strongest" of all time. All disciplines taken into account.

This may sound like and evasive answer but. The strongest person in the world isn't in the olympics, in the WSM contest, powerlifting, or playing pro sports. The strongest person on earth is probably some guy in a village that you've never heard of out plowing a field or something and throwing big stones out of his way to get his work done. He'll never be more than a local hero and will never be introduced to the rest of the world and will probably die a happy old man and become somewhat of a local legend.

As far as competitors I go with Kazmeier. The man was just crazy strong from birth on. John Paul Sigmarsson also ranks up there.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[SuperDawgy]

This may sound like and evasive answer but. The strongest person in the world isn't in the olympics, in the WSM contest, powerlifting, or playing pro sports. The strongest person on earth is probably some guy in a village that you've never heard of out plowing a field or something and throwing big stones out of his way to get his work done. He'll never be more than a local hero and will never be introduced to the rest of the world and will probably die a happy old man and become somewhat of a local legend.

As far as competitors I go with Kazmeier. The man was just crazy strong from birth on. John Paul Sigmarsson also ranks up there.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Probably so, more than likely some big ass Samoan that tosses donkies for fun.

 

[sevenka]

there's answer in this link ===> www.s_strongimghat_i.uk

 

[CrazyRussian]

It's obviously big Ron Coleman

Nah JK...I'd have to that big greasy fatman who benched 1K

 

[Illuminati]

Gary Frank has a 2,700 total because of his huge squat and dead. Also with Clark he is a bench specialist, plus his big presses were dq'd because he benches reverse grip. Also look at guys like big Mike "the mule" Miller who posts on here, 800+ bench 1,100+ squat mid 600's dead. I think his last total was 2550 or so. Here again comes the argument that you can't really compare lifts in strongman to powerlifting or olympic lifting because each is more of a specialty.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Mike "the mule" Miller just hit a 1200 squat.

 

[Scotsman]

Mike "the mule" Miller just hit a 1200 squat.

I saw that, he is just amazingly strong.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Sir Isaac Lime]

haha hugo girard


the norweigans in general own house

 

[TheOak84]

i dont know about the strongest, but my fav is the polish dude, pudanowski,

best quote, i think it was the famers walk. the polish guy screams something in polish like, poland is the best or something then kaz is like, 'i dont speal polish, but im pretty sure hes said hes goin for the 3 peet.

i laughed so hard at kaz, just as bad as madden...

 

[perkele]

i dont know about the strongest, but my fav is the polish dude, pudanowski,

best quote, i think it was the famers walk. the polish guy screams something in polish like, poland is the best or something then kaz is like, 'i dont speal polish, but im pretty sure hes said hes goin for the 3 peet.

i laughed so hard at kaz, just as bad as madden...

Not the all time strongest but definitely most impressive competitor since Jon-Pall.

2 time world strongest man and former Polish champion in boxing, I'd say don't spill his drink if you ever meet him.

 

[Carmen]

I saw that, he is just amazingly strong.

Cheers,
Scotsman

thats a record squat of course, but pound for pound in a strongman competition i'd like to see how he fares. (i'm sure very well- but it would be interesting to see such a top class powerlifter compete against dedicated strongmen)
pound for pound, the higher numbers put up aren't always by the strongest- its just the most impressive.

 

[jcp2]

Kaz put up 660 without a bench shirt and would have done much more but tore his front delt and peck loose bending a bar in the strongman. He also squatted and dl'd in the 800+ with only a belt. Not to take anything away from Ryan and Gene but they are bench specialists.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Gene has 1000 lb squat in 2003 in a meet, check it out on irongame. He is a bench specialist, hasn't always been. I am just clarifying.

 

[Scotsman]

thats a record squat of course, but pound for pound in a strongman competition i'd like to see how he fares. (i'm sure very well- but it would be interesting to see such a top class powerlifter compete against dedicated strongmen)
pound for pound, the higher numbers put up aren't always by the strongest- its just the most impressive.

Powerlifters tend to do very well on the squat/dead style lifts but very poorly on the odd lifts like stones, logs, and running events. I know I got my ass kicked by some of the stuff in my first comp. Even though I was bigger and stronger than most of the people I have competed against I just don't have enough practice with the implements.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Hugesquat]

My choice would be big O.D Wilson. He was a powerlifter par excellence. His strongman comps where impressive too. He wasnt the best runner,but could do some of the loading events very well.He squatted over a grand and deadlifted over 900lbs,benched well over mid 600 no shirt!Mike Miller deadlifts mid 600 and squats 1200,what does that disparity tell you!!!
When Jon Paul Sigmarson beat OD it was on the last event carrying 100kgs of bricks on your back and running with them for 200 metres, Im glad that craps not in the strongman anymore.A big Scottish bricklayer would beat Jon Paul at that!!

 

[TonyFitton]

Kazmaier hands down. A 2425 total with no shirt or suit is still unbeatable today. I witnessed him rep 150 lb dumbells in the seated overhead press 31x at the age of 48 (World Record).

Kazmaier would have benched 800 pounds if he hadnt torn his pectoral and hit 700 out of competition. Add a bench press shirt to that and we're talking upper 800's easily.

OD Wilson?

Couldnt even finish a 200 meter event in the WSM. Lifts never exceeded Kazmaier's - OD is "Good at loading events"? - Kazmaier took each implement and threw them from over 15 feet instead of running up to the truck and loading them. He finished in half the time of the nearest competitor.

Magnus ver Magnusun?

Dominated speed events but never power events.

Botttom Line:

Kazmaier owned the world of Powerlifting and was the most dominant WSM champion ever. He won once with 8 firsts a second and a third. Dominated another with similar stats. Won his last with a torn pectoral.

 

[Hugesquat]

Kazmaier hands down. A 2425 total with no shirt or suit is still unbeatable today. I witnessed him rep 150 lb dumbells in the seated overhead press 31x at the age of 48 (World Record).

Kazmaier would have benched 800 pounds if he hadnt torn his pectoral and hit 700 out of competition. Add a bench press shirt to that and we're talking upper 800's easily.

OD Wilson?

Couldnt even finish a 200 meter event in the WSM. Lifts never exceeded Kazmaier's - OD is "Good at loading events"? - Kazmaier took each implement and threw them from over 15 feet instead of running up to the truck and loading them. He finished in half the time of the nearest competitor.

Magnus ver Magnusun?

Dominated speed events but never power events.

Botttom Line:

Kazmaier owned the world of Powerlifting and was the most dominant WSM champion ever. He won once with 8 firsts a second and a third. Dominated another with similar stats. Won his last with a torn pectoral.

OD Wilson broke Kaz records eg 2430 total. He beat Jon Pall loading the anvils etc. WTF has running 200metres got to do with strongman anyway. Dont think you understood what I wrote Magnus also won partial deadlift and a squat comps WSM or are thse not 'power events'? Ed Coan is POWERLIFTING he beat Kaz records, less BWT and less drugs

 

[kethnaab]

there are answers contained within this thread that truly indicate why I am against the ridiculous amounts of assistance gear that today's powerlifters wear.

people think that the big fat dude who "squatted" 1200 is stronger than Kaz, who was just under half a ton with nothing but a belt and some knee wraps. I'm sure Miller is a powerhouse, but as someone said, a 600ish deadlift combined with a 1200 squat?

puh-leez. anyone who has powerlifted knows that the suit works for you a lot more in the squat than the deadlift.

fat dudes are also better at squatting than deadlifting by a significant amount because in the lowest point of the squat, the big 45-50" bellies assist getting out of the hole, almost as much as the bouncey groove briefs and triple-ply denim squat suits.

c'mon guys, Kaz was THE MAN!

 

[Micker]

The strongest person on earth is probably some guy in a village that you've never heard of out plowing a field or something and throwing big stones out of his way to get his work done.

Not in todays world. That person you talk about may have the POTENTIAL to be the strongest, but without the use of drugs and hard core lifting programs, no way could someone be stronger naturally then these drugged up, intensely trained freaks.

As far as the most impressive strongman, I think that belongs to Magnus ver Magnusen(sp). He wasn't freakishly huge, or muscular, but for his size, he made those strongman events look so easy. Other guys much bigger then him couldn't even come close.

I guess you need to ask a more detailed question. There isn't one guy who is the strongest upper and lower body. There isn't one superman so to speak. I guess the closest you could come would be to take the highest triple number and say that is the all around strongest guy, even though he may not be the strongest at any one event. It would be cool if there was one guy who could bench, squat, DL, curl etc. more then anyone else, but I don't think that person exists.

 

[sigmund]

Not in todays world. That person you talk about may have the POTENTIAL to be the strongest, but without the use of drugs and hard core lifting programs, no way could someone be stronger naturally then these drugged up, intensely trained freaks.

As far as the most impressive strongman, I think that belongs to Magnus ver Magnusen(sp). He wasn't freakishly huge, or muscular, but for his size, he made those strongman events look so easy. Other guys much bigger then him couldn't even come close.

I guess you need to ask a more detailed question. There isn't one guy who is the strongest upper and lower body. There isn't one superman so to speak. I guess the closest you could come would be to take the highest triple number and say that is the all around strongest guy, even though he may not be the strongest at any one event. It would be cool if there was one guy who could bench, squat, DL, curl etc. more then anyone else, but I don't think that person exists.

I wonder how that German kid with the myostatin gene mutation could turn out if trained? I think we'll see some significant increaes in record lifts in the coming years as gene manipulation becomes more mainstream.

I don't know who the strongest man ever is... perhaps Kazmaier, I'm not sure how it can be worked out conclusively as the criteria is so variable... I do like Pudanowski, he is rapid / agile for such a strong guy.

 

[b fold the truth]

Kazmaier hands down. A 2425 total with no shirt or suit is still unbeatable today. I witnessed him rep 150 lb dumbells in the seated overhead press 31x at the age of 48 (World Record).

Kazmaier would have benched 800 pounds if he hadnt torn his pectoral and hit 700 out of competition. Add a bench press shirt to that and we're talking upper 800's easily.

OD Wilson?

Couldnt even finish a 200 meter event in the WSM. Lifts never exceeded Kazmaier's - OD is "Good at loading events"? - Kazmaier took each implement and threw them from over 15 feet instead of running up to the truck and loading them. He finished in half the time of the nearest competitor.

Magnus ver Magnusun?

Dominated speed events but never power events.

Botttom Line:

Kazmaier owned the world of Powerlifting and was the most dominant WSM champion ever. He won once with 8 firsts a second and a third. Dominated another with similar stats. Won his last with a torn pectoral.

Kaz was great for his time. I have videos of ALL of his contests (even the crazy ones that were not shown on TV in the US). If you look back at all the WSM's that he won...basically all the events were the same and few of them were even close to what the Strongmen of today do at a much lesser level.

Kaz did not throw the beer kegs from 15' away. The Keg was maybe 4-6' away when he threw them and they were 160 pounds each...not the 250-350 that we see at contests today. He did not throw ALL of them either. Did you notice that in the next years contest he didn't finish very well at all in the keg loading? He didn't throw a single one either.

Kaz amazing? Yes. But...as the Strongman EVENTS were born he was not only a little aged but also did worse and worse as the events turned away from conventional powerlifting. Jon Pall Sigmarsson seemed to excell and go beyond.

It would be tough to say that Mariuz is not the greatest of all time...would be a tough decision. So many great ones out there over the years but as the sport has changed...so have they.

B True

 

[IGNITE]

He did not throw ALL of them either. Did you notice that in the next years contest he didn't finish very well at all in the keg loading

Ahola is also up there! Kiri!?

Best Strongman Athlete: Mariusz/MVM

Best Strongman: KAZ

 

[daverelli]

Kazmaier hands down. A 2425 total with no shirt or suit is still unbeatable today. I witnessed him rep 150 lb dumbells in the seated overhead press 31x at the age of 48 (World Record).

Kazmaier would have benched 800 pounds if he hadnt torn his pectoral and hit 700 out of competition. Add a bench press shirt to that and we're talking upper 800's easily.

OD Wilson?

Couldnt even finish a 200 meter event in the WSM. Lifts never exceeded Kazmaier's - OD is "Good at loading events"? - Kazmaier took each implement and threw them from over 15 feet instead of running up to the truck and loading them. He finished in half the time of the nearest competitor.

Magnus ver Magnusun?

Dominated speed events but never power events.

Botttom Line:

Kazmaier owned the world of Powerlifting and was the most dominant WSM champion ever. He won once with 8 firsts a second and a third. Dominated another with similar stats. Won his last with a torn pectoral.

neither Kaz nor anyone else on Earth has or will ever seated db press the 150's for 31 reps, Kaz did the 100's for like 40 but thats a whole different ball game than the 150's for 31.

 

[daverelli]

there are answers contained within this thread that truly indicate why I am against the ridiculous amounts of assistance gear that today's powerlifters wear.

people think that the big fat dude who "squatted" 1200 is stronger than Kaz, who was just under half a ton with nothing but a belt and some knee wraps. I'm sure Miller is a powerhouse, but as someone said, a 600ish deadlift combined with a 1200 squat?

puh-leez. anyone who has powerlifted knows that the suit works for you a lot more in the squat than the deadlift.

fat dudes are also better at squatting than deadlifting by a significant amount because in the lowest point of the squat, the big 45-50" bellies assist getting out of the hole, almost as much as the bouncey groove briefs and triple-ply denim squat suits.

c'mon guys, Kaz was THE MAN!

totally agreed, Kaz pulled 886 officially and rumor had it that he did 900 in training, the guys from the 70's and 80's were stronger than the guys today no doubt about it.

 

[Throw2Far]

BILL KAZMAIER!

I agree completely with Tony Fitton's post... I saw him rep the 150's live back in my JuCo days... Kaz's 2425 is still untouchable unsuited and I have NEVER seen such a dominating performance in the Strongman events. Period.

I'd like to see Marius pull 1055 on the silver dollar deadlift.

 

[Throw2Far]

As for the athlete comment? Marius? MVM?

Did anyone witness Kazmaier's run at professional wrestling? He was touted as the future of the D-Line for the Packers before he was drawn back into WSM. He was not only strong, but exceptionally athletic.

Bill Kazmaier is not only the Strongest Man in history, but the Worlds Greatest Strongman. I was in the audience of a YMCA tour in which he encouraged children to become strong, Body Mind and Spirit. He has toured the past 10 years and provided a great example for young children around the nation. He shares his witness of Jesus Christ and how he has become saved. He provides an example for many children that would otherwise look to 50 Cent or Eminem. He opens up the childs minds by inspring awe in strength events and then opens their hearts by delivering the word of god. He not only speaks in front of children but highschool age and army bases as well. Bill Kazmaier is a man for the ages.

 

[Throw2Far]

PS. Paul Anderson was an amazing man as well. I visited his ranch as a young child...

 

[b fold the truth]

totally agreed, Kaz pulled 886 officially and rumor had it that he did 900 in training, the guys from the 70's and 80's were stronger than the guys today no doubt about it.

I've competed against some 2nd and 3rd tier European Strongmen and I'm convinced that nearly all of them can pull in the 8's. There are 265 guys in the US now pulling at or near 8...under 22 years old.

 

[b fold the truth]

BILL KAZMAIER!

I agree completely with Tony Fitton's post... I saw him rep the 150's live back in my JuCo days... Kaz's 2425 is still untouchable unsuited and I have NEVER seen such a dominating performance in the Strongman events. Period.

I'd like to see Marius pull 1055 on the silver dollar deadlift.

At an Amateur contest in the US a few weeks ago...I think it was 4 different athletes pulled 1040 in the Silver Dollar deadlift.

Amateurs...not Pro's or WSM caliber athletes.

I've been an Amateur, I am a Pro, I have competed on TV. If you doubt that Mariuz could pull 1055 like that...you are greatly wrong.

 

[IGNITE]

Id have to agree with the above post.

the deadlift for max weight isnt his best lift. Anytime he tries anything above 750 he needs straps. I have some doubts about his grip strenght.

 

[Scotsman]

Id have to agree with the above post.

the deadlift for max weight isnt his best lift. Anytime he tries anything above 750 he needs straps. I have some doubts about his grip strenght.

Exactly, that's why he also doesn't do very well on the hercules hold and other grip driven events. I think he might just have small hands.

BTW- I have personaly seen a guy pull over 800 from the floor in a comp I did. And he only weighed 24olbs.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[IGNITE]

Exactly, that's why he also doesn't do very well on the hercules hold and other grip driven events. I think he might just have small hands.

BTW- I have personaly seen a guy pull over 800 from the floor in a comp I did. And he only weighed 24olbs.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Who gives a crap that youve seen a 240lb guy pull 800?

The hercules hold and deadlift are 2 diffrent things! Ofcourse you didnt know that! You can hold alot more weight with the weights on the side of your body, rather then lifting a one piece weight of the floor. Ive seen amature strongman lift and hold 330lb PER HAND for a total of 660 for 40 seconds, yet that same strongman couldnt lock out a 595 deadlift.

BTW: You really need to get a life and stop contributing your usless, negative Karma points my way. Looks to me like you spend more time doing that then trainning. Makes me wonder if you really are a "strongman" or a keyboard bandit.

 

[b fold the truth]

Who gives a crap that youve seen a 240lb guy pull 800?

The hercules hold and deadlift are 2 diffrent things! Ofcourse you didnt know that! You can hold alot more weight with the weights on the side of your body, rather then lifting a one piece weight of the floor. Ive seen amature strongman lift and hold 330lb PER HAND for a total of 660 for 40 seconds, yet that same strongman couldnt lock out a 595 deadlift.

BTW: You really need to get a life and stop contributing your usless, negative Karma points my way. Looks to me like you spend more time doing that then trainning. Makes me wonder if you really are a "strongman" or a keyboard bandit.

I'm noticing that your info says that you are from Canada so your English may be a little different from ours. I do believe that the deadlift comment he put up was in line with my post...which was directed to another use speaking of the amazing silver dollar deadlift that Kaz did back in the day (which has been recently smashed by several amateurs).

Keyboard bandit...

...pot...kettle...

 

[Throw2Far]

Check out his lifts man... Kazmaier is absolutely a stronger man as far as the powerlifts go. Your argument should be in the speed-athleticism events, which I would argue Kazmaier was more dominant at as well, however these are not quantifiable and therefore are very difficult to argue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariusz_Pudzianowski

btw bro... Mariusz is a GREAT CHAMPION and he joins a list of the strongest man to ever walk this planet. However, I truly believe that Kaz tops that list.

Also, mad props to you entering the strongman arena... best of luck to you.

 

[Scotsman]

Who gives a crap that youve seen a 240lb guy pull 800?

The hercules hold and deadlift are 2 diffrent things! Ofcourse you didnt know that! You can hold alot more weight with the weights on the side of your body, rather then lifting a one piece weight of the floor. Ive seen amature strongman lift and hold 330lb PER HAND for a total of 660 for 40 seconds, yet that same strongman couldnt lock out a 595 deadlift.

BTW: You really need to get a life and stop contributing your usless, negative Karma points my way. Looks to me like you spend more time doing that then trainning. Makes me wonder if you really are a "strongman" or a keyboard bandit.

The deadlift comment was aimed at B-True which he seemed to realize even though you did not.

I was giving a simple affirmation of your observation of his grip strength. You finally had made a somewhat useful post in which you were finally not insulting someone or just being beligerent and in an attempt to let water pass under the bridge I posted as such.

You can question my abilities and training all you want, the simple fact being that I have competed at multiple strongman contests. How many have you competed in?

Also you were the one who said you didn't care about the karma system and that I was free to red you all I want. If you had read the messages I sent you would understand that I am using the system as it was intended. If you would grow up and start making useful posts then I will stop. You keep speaking of these incredible sources for strongman information you have so why don't you post up useful information so that others may benefit from it. Instead of calling people names and telling everyone that you are better/smarter than they are.

Or is you are so inclined I am competing at the Kansas' Strongest Man competition in May, so why don't you come down here and show us all how superior you are?

Or if you are so inclined to disagree with me, then use the ignore function and you simply won't have to bother reading my posts, and I will in kind do the same and we can forget the very existence of the other.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Whoever pressed the Report Bad Post about Ignite. Dont pull this shit again! We have enough real bad posts to deal with. We have free speach here. Nothing out of order about this thread. If you disagree with him and cant stand to look at his posts use ignore. Please dont bother us with your personal complaints. Save it for when its realy needed.

P/j

 

[IGNITE]

The deadlift comment was aimed at B-True which he seemed to realize even though you did not.

I was giving a simple affirmation of your observation of his grip strength. You finally had made a somewhat useful post in which you were finally not insulting someone or just being beligerent and in an attempt to let water pass under the bridge I posted as such.

You can question my abilities and training all you want, the simple fact being that I have competed at multiple strongman contests. How many have you competed in?

Also you were the one who said you didn't care about the karma system and that I was free to red you all I want. If you had read the messages I sent you would understand that I am using the system as it was intended. If you would grow up and start making useful posts then I will stop. You keep speaking of these incredible sources for strongman information you have so why don't you post up useful information so that others may benefit from it. Instead of calling people names and telling everyone that you are better/smarter than they are.

Or is you are so inclined I am competing at the Kansas' Strongest Man competition in May, so why don't you come down here and show us all how superior you are?

Or if you are so inclined to disagree with me, then use the ignore function and you simply won't have to bother reading my posts, and I will in kind do the same and we can forget the very existence of the other.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Then stop quoteing me. I dont want anything to do with you. I dont want to see my name in any of your lame posts. I would never waste my time on you, ever.

 

[Throw2Far]

I'm noticing that your info says that you are from Canada so your English may be a little different from ours. I do believe that the deadlift comment he put up was in line with my post...which was directed to another use speaking of the amazing silver dollar deadlift that Kaz did back in the day (which has been recently smashed by several amateurs).

Keyboard bandit...

...pot...kettle...

The thing that EVERYONE keeps forgetting is yes: there was a person with stronger shoulders, a person with a bigger deadlift, a bigger squat, a stronger grip etc... BUT NEVER HAS THERE BEEN A TOTAL PACKAGE OF THAT MAGNITUDE IN ONE PERSON.

Yes, there are people who deadlift more. But there is a reason that they are amateurs, they can't do the rest. Point out a single person that is better not the combination of 30 strongmen's best lifts.

 

[b fold the truth]

The thing that EVERYONE keeps forgetting is yes: there was a person with stronger shoulders, a person with a bigger deadlift, a bigger squat, a stronger grip etc... BUT NEVER HAS THERE BEEN A TOTAL PACKAGE OF THAT MAGNITUDE IN ONE PERSON.

Yes, there are people who deadlift more. But there is a reason that they are amateurs, they can't do the rest. Point out a single person that is better not the combination of 30 strongmen's best lifts.

You doubted that Mariuz could pull 1055 Silver Dollar style and I simply pointed out that it was done by Am's...much less Pro's. There were Pro's who broke past that not long ago and they aren't on the same level as Mariuz.

Mariuz is a much better total package in one person.

Consider that Kaz did a log press of 374 I think that it was. Mariuz did a JOKINGLY 385 on several different occasions at many different contests this year. Zavickas has done 440 and said that he had done 460 in training and plans to hit it this Summer at an IFSA show. Zadrunus pulled 705 x 10 at the IFSA worlds this year and has competed againt the best group of strongmen in the wold 15 times in 2005 and won every show.

Who is better than Kaz?
Svend
Mariuz
Savickas
and an absolute load of guys these days.

Kaz was impressive FOR HIS TIME. His best performance even at his prime would not have hung with the IFSA guys of today.

Ohh...and Strongman is about the Strongman Events...not the squat, deadlift, and bench press.

 

[Throw2Far]

Bro are you serious? ? Comparing one muscle and saying that he is a much better total package?

Just because he dissed you one time can't possibly make you believe that a 705x10 is better than 887 deadlift... Zavickas>Kaz, thats laughable... I can see how you jump on the fan favorite of the day's bandwagon(Maruisz) but to put Svend, and Svickas in the same league as Kazmaier is just plain bitterness.

Btw last I checked Squat and Deadlift were Strongman events... and Yes Kazmaier was much more dominant in both the Squat and Deadlift than any of the people that you have mentioned. (Not to even mention Benchpress which should be incorporated into a STRONGMAN COMPETITION, he blows them away).

Kaz was the best for his time? Wow that takes a seriously short memory... I know they don't show the old ones that often but weight is weight, 25 years ago or not. The only reason I refer to the Squat, Deadlift and Benchpress so often is that the strongman events have changed throughout the years so the best ways to gauge it are the consistent events: Squat, Deadlift, Overhead lifts, Grip events, Walking with weight, etc... The only truly quantifiably comparible events being the Squat, Deadlift and possibly Loglift.

 

[Throw2Far]

PS The reason Kaz's Dollar lift was so impressive is that he DID IT TWICE, AND WITH EASE! He looked as though he could have banged out ten when he looked into the camera as though he was staring into your soul, invoking fear into the hearts of all competitors.

 

[Extra_Strong]

damn the thread got F*cked was good read for a while..

 

[steelmass]

Not really, its an argument as to who is the strongest ever and the top 2 contenders are Kaz and Mariusz.

I vote for Kazmaier.

 

[b fold the truth]

Bro are you serious? ? Comparing one muscle and saying that he is a much better total package?

Just because he dissed you one time can't possibly make you believe that a 705x10 is better than 887 deadlift... Zavickas>Kaz, thats laughable... I can see how you jump on the fan favorite of the day's bandwagon(Maruisz) but to put Svend, and Svickas in the same league as Kazmaier is just plain bitterness.

Btw last I checked Squat and Deadlift were Strongman events... and Yes Kazmaier was much more dominant in both the Squat and Deadlift than any of the people that you have mentioned. (Not to even mention Benchpress which should be incorporated into a STRONGMAN COMPETITION, he blows them away).

Kaz was the best for his time? Wow that takes a seriously short memory... I know they don't show the old ones that often but weight is weight, 25 years ago or not. The only reason I refer to the Squat, Deadlift and Benchpress so often is that the strongman events have changed throughout the years so the best ways to gauge it are the consistent events: Squat, Deadlift, Overhead lifts, Grip events, Walking with weight, etc... The only truly quantifiably comparible events being the Squat, Deadlift and possibly Loglift.

Ahhh...now I see. You have such little knowledge of Strongman that it is actually laughable.

I have EVER WSM EVER on video and nearly every contest possible on video or DVD. Even contests from Iran.

I don't guess that you have recently seen the video of Svend deadlifting over 800 for reps huh?

You put down those guys pulling 705 x 10 at the WORLDS as about a 10th+ event in several days. You have no clue...obviously.

Fan favorite? You ARE laughable. Just FYI...but I am an IFSA membership card holder, and IFSA athlete, and run Strongman in this country (with IFSA). I spent the entire weekend with the BIG GUYS at IFSA a couple weekends ago and just ask them who is the best ever. You will hear two names...Mariuz and Savickas. You will also hear lots of mentions of other athletes of the past (Magnuss S, Magnuss Ver, Joko Ahola, Kiri, Jon Pal, Jaimee, etc...)

Kaz and his silver dollar deadlift...wow. Give me a few days and I'll post up Willie Wessels pulling 1k x 2 as a 5th event and a 12 hour contest. Ohh...he won the other 4 at that NATIONALS also...wait...and he was under 225 pounds!!!

Benchpress in Strongman...wait...sorry. I just realized 2 things.
1) You can't argue with ignorance.
2) You are a troll...and a funny one at that.

 

[steelmass]

Why keep pointing out singular people with a ONE LIFT BETTER THANK KAZ'S?

Try pointing out a complete package backed up with an argument not "well I know a guy who deadlifts a lot and weighs 225" or "I have an IFSA card". Do you honestly believe that Willie Wessels is the strongest man ever? Then don't mention his name. Name THE BEST COMPETITOR and then compare strength levels... its not that hard... especially for a guy who owns 200+ hours of Strongman Tape.

 

[Scotsman]

Looking back I find it amusing that this turned from who is the strongest person ever to who is the best strongman. Maybe this thread should either be brought back on track or locked/deleted as it is becoming a flame war.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[b fold the truth]

Why keep pointing out singular people with a ONE LIFT BETTER THANK KAZ'S?

Try pointing out a complete package backed up with an argument not "well I know a guy who deadlifts a lot and weighs 225" or "I have an IFSA card". Do you honestly believe that Willie Wessels is the strongest man ever? Then don't mention his name. Name THE BEST COMPETITOR and then compare strength levels... its not that hard... especially for a guy who owns 200+ hours of Strongman Tape.

Ok...easy:

Svend vs Kaz:

Log Press: Svend (418) Kaz (364)
Deadlift: Both used different set ups but...
Svend (800 x 4 belt only) Kaz (887 I think it was)...close at least
Farmers Walk: Svend will roll with the 385's all day, Kaz struggled with 286's
Super Yoke: Svend had the WR...that is hard to contest
Atlas Stones: Svend had the WR...also loaded a 397 x 5 in a row, easily
Kaz did load a 330 (cheated, hence the KAZ Rule on stones)
Tire Flip: Again, Svend had the WR...hard to contest
Squat lift: Svend has dominated that lift in the past few years, but no implement like this is the same.
Partial Deadlift: hardly ever done anymore.
Axle Clean and Press: Again, Svend was a WR holder.

Now...lets think that Savickas has broken quite a few of Svend's records recently.

Well...that is the base of Strongman events right there and Svend sure had the edge.

My point with Willie...is that Kaz's partial deadlift wasn't all that crazy by today's standards.

My point about being an IFSA Pro and country Rep for IFSA and working WITH the IFSA guys is this...

Kaz competed with IFSA. The BEST people in the world compete with IFSA. IFSA has run the World's Strongest Man till 2005. I'm not an average joe and I have a pretty decent background in Strongman. I'm not just a guy who watches the WSM Marathon once a year when they show it on ESPN, ESPN, OLN, EuroSport, EuroSport2, etc... I study the sport like you cannot understand.

 

[steelmass]

Hahaha I saw svend place 4th today. You are saying this clown that cannot win a second rate strongman competition was greater than the greatest? Thats funny. Im sure you "study the sport" - but get real bro, the stats you threw up were circumstancial. Just because they use heavier implements now doesn't mean he is stronger. Back then they used lighter but went faster. Half of your comparisons up there are laughable.

 

[b fold the truth]

Hahaha I saw svend place 4th today. You are saying this clown that cannot win a second rate strongman competition was greater than the greatest? Thats funny. Im sure you "study the sport" - but get real bro, the stats you threw up were circumstancial. Just because they use heavier implements now doesn't mean he is stronger. Back then they used lighter but went faster. Half of your comparisons up there are laughable.

Yeah...and Mariuz took 6th against the IFSA guys about a month ago. I also have video of Kaz not doing very well in Strongman contests too...especially when speed was of importance. He just couldn't keep up with JPS and the other faster guys.

Ohh...and...
Tire Flip: speed and strength.
Super Yoke: speed and strength.
Farmers Walk: speed and strength.

I'd hate to point out that Svend is darn near 40 as well. IFBB Pro Bodybuilder, held records in powerlifting, etc...and is far from the BEST in Strongman today still.

You want to compare numbers and I did. I clearly showed how just ONE athlete (and not currently at the top athlete) is stronger and better at the sport of Strongman than Kaz, and you have the Armchair-Strongman Goggles pulled down and so tight that you can only see what you want.

Hey wait...how many international shows have you competed in?

Doggone it...I just saw this:

Steelmass is purely a fictitious character. Steelmass is not representative of any "real-life" person. All posts made by Steelmass are for entertainment purposes only and have no correlation with reality.

Sorry, dude, didn't realize that you were just a fictitious character and are posting only for entertainment. You really ARE funny now...I get it!!!! Haaa!!!!

Good one man!!!!!

 

[aircav]

In my opinion the competitors today wear to much supportive gear. In the gym back home I have seen one guy miss 405lbs raw only to come back 2 weeks later and bench 615lbs with a shirt. Kaz’s 660 raw bench is very, very impressive. So I would have to say Kav and Zydrunas Sivickas are the strongest in my opinion. Both have proven there strength in 2 disciplines. Powerlifting and WSM competition.

 

[steelmass]

Yeah...and Mariuz took 6th against the IFSA guys about a month ago. I also have video of Kaz not doing very well in Strongman contests too...especially when speed was of importance. He just couldn't keep up with JPS and the other faster guys.

Ohh...and...
Tire Flip: speed and strength.
Super Yoke: speed and strength.
Farmers Walk: speed and strength.

I'd hate to point out that Svend is darn near 40 as well. IFBB Pro Bodybuilder, held records in powerlifting, etc...and is far from the BEST in Strongman today still.

You want to compare numbers and I did. I clearly showed how just ONE athlete (and not currently at the top athlete) is stronger and better at the sport of Strongman than Kaz, and you have the Armchair-Strongman Goggles pulled down and so tight that you can only see what you want.

Hey wait...how many international shows have you competed in?

Doggone it...I just saw this:



Sorry, dude, didn't realize that you were just a fictitious character and are posting only for entertainment. You really ARE funny now...I get it!!!! Haaa!!!!

Good one man!!!!!

Get real man - you are a wannabe... And the sig is obviously for certain legal purposes - considering giving advice on illegal substances is indeed illegal. Ya - Armchair Strongman - considering you have endless hours of video on strongman it would seem as though you were the armchair strongman.

 

[steelmass]

In my opinion the competitors today wear to much supportive gear. In the gym back home I have seen one guy miss 405lbs raw only to come back 2 weeks later and bench 615lbs with a shirt. Kaz’s 660 raw bench is very, very impressive. So I would have to say Kav and Zydrunas Sivickas are the strongest in my opinion. Both have proven there strength in 2 disciplines. Powerlifting and WSM competition.

Great point.

 

[b fold the truth]

Get real man - you are a wannabe... And the sig is obviously for certain legal purposes - considering giving advice on illegal substances is indeed illegal. Ya - Armchair Strongman - considering you have endless hours of video on strongman it would seem as though you were the armchair strongman.

Again, how many international shows have you done?

I've done a few.

Seriously...how many have you competed in...I'm waiting.

 

[b fold the truth]

 

[b fold the truth]

I've done a few. I'll wait for your list of contests.

I can appreciate anyone's opinion...but not the opinion that I am a "wannabe".

 

[steelmass]

HAHAHA! INTERNATIONAL?!? Your country is smaller than my city - by about 5x. My state competition is the equivalent of the surrounding 10 countries so your "International" competitions doesn't mean shit.

Oh its me vs. you now ? I thought it was a worldclass strongman discussion and considering neither one of us are it doesnt matter much now does it. I am a bodybuilder that happens to deadlift 300kg so I thought i'd give my state strongman competition a shot. I have been running clen, using CKD, and not focusing on strength yet I bench 455 raw - but since you wanna make it a me vs. you situation, too bad you have nothing to show for it. When you walk into a room people look at you like you're just another big fat guy. I walk around with a sixpack and veins popping out of my 18.5" arms.

 

[steelmass]

BTW my definition of a wannabe is someone who is clearly obsessed with a sport that they will never compete at - at a high level. It is the "American" equivalent of the college basketball player that never made it to the NBA and still obsesses over it every day.
For example, has endles hours of old NBA games and "studies the sport like you cannot comprehend". Its funny really - someone who clearly "Wants-to-be" but never will.

 

[steelmass]

I clearly showed how just ONE athlete (and not currently at the top athlete) is stronger and better at the sport of Strongman than Kaz

Oh shit dude, you misread the title - it says Strongest Man Ever. Not "Best at sport of Strongman".

 

[b fold the truth]

HAHAHA! INTERNATIONAL?!? Your country is smaller than my city - by about 5x. My state competition is the equivalent of the surrounding 10 countries so your "International" competitions doesn't mean shit.

Oh its me vs. you now ? I thought it was a worldclass strongman discussion and considering neither one of us are it doesnt matter much now does it. I am a bodybuilder that happens to deadlift 300kg so I thought i'd give my state strongman competition a shot. I have been running clen, using CKD, and not focusing on strength yet I bench 455 raw - but since you wanna make it a me vs. you situation, too bad you have nothing to show for it. When you walk into a room people look at you like you're just another big fat guy. I walk around with a sixpack and veins popping out of my 18.5" arms.

Just to clarify...I am an American and used to be the Kentucky State NAS Chair. I've turned pro in the USA. Your state contest don't mean much to me...I've won the heaviest AM show in the US and doggone near won AM Nationals SICK. The photos from above are from some of the best Pro and AM shows in the USA as well as shows in Serbia, Poland, and Cyprus. Both Serbia and Poland were TV contract contests...thank you very much. You got one of those TV contracts with your state AMATEUR shows...right?

It isn't me vs you...but at the point where you call me a wanna be and act like an armchair strongman (somone who sits and watches but doesn't have a clue what it is like to compete) then you are wrong. Your grasp on what Strongman is about...is totally off. World Class I may not be...but I have a Pro Card from the USA and a contract with IFSA (you know...those guys who run the Worls Strongest Man).

Good for you and your 300 kilo deadlift.

I'm a big fat guy? Wow...lol. I have veins and cross striations in my legs and a visible 6 pack...at a strong 280 +. 18.5" arms are great man...impressive. Mine are 20" cold.

Since you are such a great bodybuilder and I'm just a fat strongman...why don't you go back to a bodybuilder forum and play like one.

By the way...later this year I'll be competing on TV again...and you will still be struggling to hold up my jock strap with your veins.

 

[b fold the truth]

Oh shit dude, you misread the title - it says Strongest Man Ever. Not "Best at sport of Strongman".

Then I guess that they better change the title to The Worlds Best At The Sport of Strongman then...

 

[steelmass]

Just to clarify...I am an American and used to be the Kentucky State NAS Chair. I've turned pro in the USA. Your state contest don't mean much to me...I've won the heaviest AM show in the US and doggone near won AM Nationals SICK. The photos from above are from some of the best Pro and AM shows in the USA as well as shows in Serbia, Poland, and Cyprus. Both Serbia and Poland were TV contract contests...thank you very much. You got one of those TV contracts with your state AMATEUR shows...right?

It isn't me vs you...but at the point where you call me a wanna be and act like an armchair strongman (somone who sits and watches but doesn't have a clue what it is like to compete) then you are wrong. Your grasp on what Strongman is about...is totally off. World Class I may not be...but I have a Pro Card from the USA and a contract with IFSA (you know...those guys who run the Worls Strongest Man).

Good for you and your 300 kilo deadlift.

I'm a big fat guy? Wow...lol. I have veins and cross striations in my legs and a visible 6 pack...at a strong 280 +. 18.5" arms are great man...impressive. Mine are 20" cold.

Since you are such a great bodybuilder and I'm just a fat strongman...why don't you go back to a bodybuilder forum and play like one.

By the way...later this year I'll be competing on TV again...and you will still be struggling to hold up my jock strap with your veins.

Sorry, just figured by your avatar name that you wouldn't be lieing about where you live. If it were truly the worlds strongest man time wouldn't be a factor - time implies speed - why don't they call it the Worlds Fastest Strongman so that it is not a joke when a guy like Magnus Ver wins it 4x on pure speed.

And no shit you have 20" arms - guess what I saw a guy yesterday with atleast 22"s beat that shit! Too bad he also had a 60" waist - bro get real you dont have a sixpack.

Oh shit my bad - you have cross striations on your legs? Sorry I thought you were the guy in those pictures with about 20% BF. I take it all back then since you have a sixpack and 20" arms cold.

Seriously man shred down to 5% and see how big you really are...

 

[steelmass]

Then I guess that they better change the title to The Worlds Best At The Sport of Strongman then...

If it is the worlds strongest man competition then why is cardiovascular endurance a factor - It sickened me to see OD Drop out when he was easily the strongest that day. Then a quick guy like Magnus ver wins 4x... You've got to be kidding me...

PS - For Zavickus fans - his 1000kg (suited total) pales in comparison to Kazmaier's unsuited 1102.27kg total.

 

[steelmass]

Then I guess that they better change the title to The Worlds Best At The Sport of Strongman then...

And yes, nowadays people practice the events non-stop. Kazmaier was a powerlifting animal that never was a "Professional WSM" - but a powerlifter that could still dominate the events.

 

[b fold the truth]

Sorry, just figured by your avatar name that you wouldn't be lieing about where you live. If it were truly the worlds strongest man time wouldn't be a factor - time implies speed - why don't they call it the Worlds Fastest Strongman so that it is not a joke when a guy like Magnus Ver wins it 4x on pure speed.

And no shit you have 20" arms - guess what I saw a guy yesterday with atleast 22"s beat that shit! Too bad he also had a 60" waist - bro get real you dont have a sixpack.

Oh shit my bad - you have cross striations on your legs? Sorry I thought you were the guy in those pictures with about 20% BF. I take it all back then since you have a sixpack and 20" arms cold.

Seriously man shred down to 5% and see how big you really are...

You really are a troll..aren't you?

MVM won on pure speed? Yeah...ok. I guess you forget that he won the deadlift events at quite a few worlds. Wait...he was also the European Deadlift Champion. To top off that he was stronger than nearly everyone else...he was also in better physical conditioning. The first year that Kaz won the WSM...he was in VERY good conditioning, which is a major factor in why he won.

Glad that you found a guy with 22" arms...I bet that your life is complete now and you can sleep better at night. 60" waist...great. Mind is 37"...a far cry from 60" and I enjoy 2-3 lbs of meat a day, 10 pounds of rice a week, 3 liters of whole milk a day, couple of pizzas a week, etc... Hope you enjoy your clen and CKD diet.

20% body fat...ok. Troll...I see again.

5% body fat? Naaa....it's ok. It wouldn't help me on my way to getting better at my sport. Remember...I'm not a wannabe bodybuilder...I'm a strongman competitor.

Lying about where I live? I'm not. I live on a small island called Cyprus in the town of Limassol with my wife. I am originally from Murray, Kentucky and have lived here for 2 years. Your head is pretty thick...huh?

 

[b fold the truth]

If it is the worlds strongest man competition then why is cardiovascular endurance a factor - It sickened me to see OD Drop out when he was easily the strongest that day. Then a quick guy like Magnus ver wins 4x... You've got to be kidding me...

PS - For Zavickus fans - his 1000kg (suited total) pales in comparison to Kazmaier's unsuited 1102.27kg total.

Cardiovascular endurance is part of the total package. You really don't understand the sport at all..do you?

Wait...above you say " Just because they use heavier implements now doesn't mean he is stronger. Back then they used lighter but went faster."

Wait a minute, dude...do you want it to be a test of strength or speed? Seriously...your agruement changes with the wind. You say that Kaz was stronger, he went faster with lighter weights. Now you say that speed shouldn't be a factor at the World's Strongest Man conest. Seriously man...make up your mind.

Z's 1k total was set when he was what...308 or just a little above? He is doggone 400 lbs now and a lot stronger. Nobody can take away Kaz's powerlifting total or any of his lifts though...freaking impressive.

Kaz did do very well at the events for his time, which are totally different than the events of today. Today they are much harder and heavier and strongman specific. I train the events at least once a week. On Sunday I did 10 events in 4.5 hours...sports specific.

The events that they did for the first SEVERAL years were easy to train for. Keg press, wheelbarrow race, wrist roller, harness pull, car deadlift, etc... It wasn't like doing atlas stones, fingled fingers, super yoke, etc... They weren't completely impossible to train for or totally foreign events. Heck...they were basically the same events every year that Kaz won.

I also agree that OD should have won that title and the event at the end was a bunch of crap. Totally too light. OD won the anvil loading event too...which was primarily speed but not running. I still wonder of the rumor about that event being thrown in at the last minute. If it had been...wouldn't OD have celebrated after the anvil load that would have given him the title? And why would they have had all events that day (anvil load and race) at a track? Still...a stupid event!!!!! What were they thinking?????

Seriously man...I can respect your opinion about Kaz or any other strongman but at the point in which you start saying things personally about me...you lose all respect.

And just to clarify...you have never done a contest, have never been on tv, and have no Pro card of ANY kind? And I am a "wannabe"?

 

[blut wump]

Great pics BFold. You continue to be an inspiration here to many.

Kaz was an awesome strength phenomenon and could well have been the strongest man in the world in his time. I think there are few who would dispute that he was.

When Mariusz won the latest WSM (sorry, BFold, if I'm showing my ignorance of the various organisations), Kaz was there to ask him whether he was now the greatest strongman who ever lived. It seemed that even Kaz himself was prepared to accept that Mariusz has surpassed him.

 

[b fold the truth]

Great pics BFold. You continue to be an inspiration here to many.

Kaz was an awesome strength phenomenon and could well have been the strongest man in the world in his time. I think there are few who would dispute that he was.

When Mariusz won the latest WSM (sorry, BFold, if I'm showing my ignorance of the various organisations), Kaz was there to ask him whether he was now the greatest strongman who ever lived. It seemed that even Kaz himself was prepared to accept that Mariusz has surpassed him.

Thanks man.

Mariuz won the WSM in 2005 by a margin of about 10 points I think (big in WSM terms). Mariuz is just flat out hard to even think about beating at their style contests. Big Zadrunus went undefeated in 2005 with IFSA as well (and beat him at the Arnold this year...heavy events).

 

[steelmass]

Cardiovascular endurance is part of the total package. You really don't understand the sport at all..do you?

Wait...above you say " Just because they use heavier implements now doesn't mean he is stronger. Back then they used lighter but went faster."

Wait a minute, dude...do you want it to be a test of strength or speed? Seriously...your agruement changes with the wind. You say that Kaz was stronger, he went faster with lighter weights. Now you say that speed shouldn't be a factor at the World's Strongest Man conest. Seriously man...make up your mind.

Z's 1k total was set when he was what...308 or just a little above? He is doggone 400 lbs now and a lot stronger. Nobody can take away Kaz's powerlifting total or any of his lifts though...freaking impressive.

Kaz did do very well at the events for his time, which are totally different than the events of today. Today they are much harder and heavier and strongman specific. I train the events at least once a week. On Sunday I did 10 events in 4.5 hours...sports specific.

The events that they did for the first SEVERAL years were easy to train for. Keg press, wheelbarrow race, wrist roller, harness pull, car deadlift, etc... It wasn't like doing atlas stones, fingled fingers, super yoke, etc... They weren't completely impossible to train for or totally foreign events. Heck...they were basically the same events every year that Kaz won.

I also agree that OD should have won that title and the event at the end was a bunch of crap. Totally too light. OD won the anvil loading event too...which was primarily speed but not running. I still wonder of the rumor about that event being thrown in at the last minute. If it had been...wouldn't OD have celebrated after the anvil load that would have given him the title? And why would they have had all events that day (anvil load and race) at a track? Still...a stupid event!!!!! What were they thinking?????

Seriously man...I can respect your opinion about Kaz or any other strongman but at the point in which you start saying things personally about me...you lose all respect.

And just to clarify...you have never done a contest, have never been on tv, and have no Pro card of ANY kind? And I am a "wannabe"?

Ya pretty sure it was the "armchair strongman" comment that spiralled this entire flame. Anyways - you once again missed the point - this discussion is about who was actually the strongest man ever. This discussion was not about who is the best at the sport of Strongman Competitions. The original thread starter even mentioned powerlifting - he obviously didn't mean who was the best at the SM comps. Anyways - keep pluggin away bro looks like you're livin it.

 

[b fold the truth]

Ya pretty sure it was the "armchair strongman" comment that spiralled this entire flame. Anyways - you once again missed the point - this discussion is about who was actually the strongest man ever. This discussion was not about who is the best at the sport of Strongman Competitions. The original thread starter even mentioned powerlifting - he obviously didn't mean who was the best at the SM comps. Anyways - keep pluggin away bro looks like you're livin it.

My apologies to you if I have offended you.

If I can assist you in ANY way for your contest...please send me a PM.

Clint

 

[Lars]

I favor our recently retired strongman hero Svend Karlsen..

The best

 

[dimma]

Dont forget that Jon Pall Sigmarsson won kaz, and won the strongest man 4 times like magnus ver did...

 

[JPC]

The strongest man ever is not the greatest strongman competitor. Strongman today is only partly about strength. The strongest man ever is the man who could lift the most for 1 rep in a variety of exercises that test the whole body. We have to start with the greatest squatter of all time, Paul Anderson. I'm not talking about the joke called powerlifting today, with the triple ply suits and the monolift and the squats that stop a couple inches ABOVE parallel. Paul did 1200 Raw and deep. He has also reportedly push pressed 600 from the rack. I'm sure if bench pressing was as popular back then as today, he could have pu up at least 700 raw. These so called 1000lb bench pressers today are a joke. What they do is not a bench press. If it takes 500lbs to push the bar down to your chest because of the silly shirt you wear, its a joke. These guys should not even be given the respect of being called athletes. Olympic lifters are not the strongest guys either. They are really strong of course, but their lifts require a lot of technique and speed. They are the most powerful lifters, but not the strongest. If you don't know the difference, pick up a physics book. I think the stongest man is whoever has the highest combined total in the squat, deadlift, bench press, overhead lift(press, push press, or jerk), weighted chinup, barbell row, and something for the grip, like a single hand thick bar deadlift.
Now, who is the greatest strongman competitor ever. I have to go with Kaz, John Pall, and Magnus Ver. Mariusz could beat them all today, but when comparing athletes you have to be relative to the time they competed. Kaz dominated his time, and John Paul and Magnus were so consistent and resilient and won some close ones and stayed on or near the top for a long time. Mariusz has won two legitimate WSM's(2005 doesn't count) and is still in the top 5 strongmen today, but hasn't done enough quite yet to earn a spot beside them. He needs to beat Zadrunas a couple times and I don't see that happening. Z is closing in on being in the same league as Kaz before Mariusz is.

 

[steelmass]

Mariusz lost WSM this year... again... and Kaz had the WR raw total - what is Mariusz' raw total? I don't think Mariusz would have beaten Kaz in his prime. Kaz could enter another plane, and become an absolute animal. His mind-body connection was freaky.

PS - Paul Anderson is a legend but I wouldn't believe his 1200 squat lifts as he never did 1000 in a competition... After his unfortunate death, it was discovered half of his weights were a fraction the weight that they were marked. He is known for doing dummy lifts now... =(

 

[b fold the truth]

Mariusz lost WSM this year... again... and Kaz had the WR raw total - what is Mariusz' raw total? I don't think Mariusz would have beaten Kaz in his prime. Kaz could enter another plane, and become an absolute animal. His mind-body connection was freaky.

PS - Paul Anderson is a legend but I wouldn't believe his 1200 squat lifts as he never did 1000 in a competition... After his unfortunate death, it was discovered half of his weights were a fraction the weight that they were marked. He is known for doing dummy lifts now... =(

Don't confuse the WSM competition as being the ONLY or the BEST World's Competition going on these days either. Mariuz competed at the Arnolds and got 6th, all of those above him were with IFSA. Phil Phister (USA, formerly IFSA) won the contest this year...beating Mariuz twice in the same year.

 

[Arabian]

gregg valentino LOL

LMAO

 

[perkele]

There's so many world strongest man competitions every year, the one where they lift atlas stones and the two, what are they called? Oh yeah, weightlifting and powerlifting world championships.

 

[b fold the truth]

There's so many world strongest man competitions every year, the one where they lift atlas stones and the two, what are they called? Oh yeah, weightlifting and powerlifting world championships.

There is only one "World's Strongest Man" contest every year an it is run by The Super Series. They don't have the best athletes in their league though. IFSA does, and they have their Worlds as well.

 

[b_light]

I saw this old dude at the barber a while back and he was fucking massive like pushing close to 8ft tall because he had to duck his head down when he went out the door and his calves were probably 23" +. If he would have been a strongman i have no doubt in my mind he woulda been a strong mother fucker.

 

[perkele]

There is only one "World's Strongest Man" contest every year an it is run by The Super Series. They don't have the best athletes in their league though. IFSA does, and they have their Worlds as well.

1 + 1 = 2?


Anyway, who's to say we can't call Hossein Rezazadeh the world strongest man?

 

[b fold the truth]

1 + 1 = 2?


Anyway, who's to say we can't call Hossein Rezazadeh the world strongest man?

I guess you can call him that if you want to.

I don't think that an athlete can consider himself the strongest till he competes in a contest or a sport that tests all facets of strength though.

 

[wtlftr]

Magnus ver.. the best. he would have won the most comp but had to quit so he could make money. Damn WSM rules. The polish guy lost this YEAR? Who beat him???????????

 

[perkele]

I guess you can call him that if you want to.

I don't think that an athlete can consider himself the strongest till he competes in a contest or a sport that tests all facets of strength though.

Well I disagree.

 

[b fold the truth]

Magnus ver.. the best. he would have won the most comp but had to quit so he could make money. Damn WSM rules. The polish guy lost this YEAR? Who beat him???????????

MVM quit to make money?

Actually he retired this year due to back problems.

Mariuz lost to Phil Phister (USA) at the World's Strongest Man this year...and took 6th behind the IFSA guys at the Arnold Classic this year.

 

[b fold the truth]

Well I disagree.

I don't mean to insult you man, sorry if it came across that way.

I've competed against some guys who have competed at the Olympics in OLY lifting and they found that they were strong and impressive...but far from being THE World's Strongest Man winner.

Darn strong...heck yeah!!! And the big man from Iran is one of the BEST if not the BEST EVER at his sport.

You know at the OLY worlds recently, there were 9 of the 11 Iranian athletes to fail the drug test? He was one of the 2 that passed.

 

[blut wump]

So, he's smart as well as strong.

 

[H_T_]

i'm partial to olympic lifters.

 

[perkele]

I don't mean to insult you man, sorry if it came across that way.

I've competed against some guys who have competed at the Olympics in OLY lifting and they found that they were strong and impressive...but far from being THE World's Strongest Man winner.

Darn strong...heck yeah!!! And the big man from Iran is one of the BEST if not the BEST EVER at his sport.

You know at the OLY worlds recently, there were 9 of the 11 Iranian athletes to fail the drug test? He was one of the 2 that passed.

I know, I follow the sport.