My personal feeling is that the natural test boosters should start at the end of the RX boosters. Clomid/nolva stacks have put users I know into the 1,000s test count range, adding Phytoserm to that won't make a difference. Hit the RX boosters first, the natural start the day those end.
you speak a lot of sense bro......good to hear from a guy without a vested interest ...always the best and most reliable advice on any forum