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the perfect body (arnold)

How can anyone call what has happened with bodybuilding, progression? Guys are dying left and right. A lot of them need kidney transplants and have other problems as well.

And there has been no progress made in making the sport more popular, or getting more money for the 'athletes'. Lee Haney's last Olympia he won $120,000. Up until 04, Ronnie was getting $110,000. Only the past two years has he gotten $120,000. Shouldn't it have gone up by now?! What about lack of coverage? In the 80's and very early 90's espn would broadcast these shows. Now you might be able to catch the O or Arnold on Payperview.

Bodybuilding was a closet sport when it started. The guys were laughed at and got no respect at all. They fought hard to get their voice heard. They earned the respect over years of work. It wasn't until Pumping Iron that people really saw that bodybuilders weren't a bunch of freaks. Then came the fitness explosion. Now just about everyone has been to a gym at least once in their life. But the bodybuilders lost the respect, and went from being viewed as role models of what hard work can do, to what taking this, this and that can do. Jay Cutler said in an interview that he gets laughed at when he goes out. You have some kids on the boards thinking if they got huge like Ronnie they will have respect. I guess there goes that idea.

Bodybuilding is dying. AMI buying out most of the Weider empire pretty much sealed the deal on that. They will suck whatever money they can out of it, and then leave it for dead. There needs to be a big change, and fast. I doubt it will happen though, but let's keep our eye's on the mags to see who's dying next or needs a new kidney.

You make a good arguement. but boops got it. you;re assuming progression means positive. it means evolve, change. so what i was saying is it progressed into something different, to me i like the new look, to some they dont. but it definetly progressed. and when we started to talk about it, it was solely on the look of bbers. noone mentioned money or coverage or health. thats a diff. topic all together. all we wrre saying is "do you like the new bodies or the old" and "bodies" meaning the out side not the health of their bodies inside. so although you make a convincing arguement, that simply isnt the topic we were discussing. at least i wasnt.
 
IMO ....
It is interesting to compare generations to learn. It seems each one had different values and goals reflecting what was going on in society.

The "Entertainment" factor is critical. Arnold saw this and ran with it ... more than the men from the 50's who inspired him. Perhaps today it has gone too far. I do not see the Champs of today going beyond BB shows.

I'd like to see a return to an emphasis on total body health as in the pic below. This won't happen.
 
bicepts101 said:
i just cant get over how great arnold looked....look at my avatar he is just simply amazing.

the guys of tday are amazing also. if they could only figure out a way around the gut i would have so much more respect
arnold is the shit..straight up man all those guys from that era i have a lotta respect for. arnold is who i wanna look like, big but not overly big like coleman, but mad shredded...just overall sick genetics and sick work ethic. plus he had so much fun in the gym like when u watch pumping iron
 
loved arnold as stated, louie was the most impressive to me, thats as much of a freak as i think is necessary. i think this is a great thread different bros just giving their opinions no shit talking. k to all i can give it to
 
In the future we will probably stop complaining about all the slin and HGH the top pros are using today and start complaining about Gene doping and Genetic enhancements
 
bruce410 said:
loved arnold as stated, louie was the most impressive to me, thats as much of a freak as i think is necessary. i think this is a great thread different bros just giving their opinions no shit talking. k to all i can give it to

it is a great thing when alot of different people can chime in with alot of different opinions and not have one person resort to talking shit....perhaps this is a PROGRESSION for this board LOL (couldnt resist)...anyway if and when i figure this karma thing out ill send some out...... :p
 
Thing about the new guys though is that in off season they are big fat pieces of shit and look like fat slobs. (just my opinion of course)
 
bruce410 said:
loved arnold as stated, louie was the most impressive to me, thats as much of a freak as i think is necessary. i think this is a great thread different bros just giving their opinions no shit talking. k to all i can give it to

the most amazing thing about guys like Arnold and Lou were their height and ability to pack on the amount of size they did...

especially Lou, obviously...
 
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