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bicepts101
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MTS said:
..and whats ur point bro?....
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..and whats ur point bro?....
My 2 sheckels:
I'll bet 50% of the population (women) pretty much unanimously favors old generation bodies over new ones. A lot of women don't like guys who are too big. After all, the psychological basis for a yardstick to judge beauty is the median characteristics of a population.
I think it's a little more complicated with BB though. IMO beauty and the appearance of strength are two different characteristics that make men attractive. They partly go hand in hand, but aren't one and the same. New generation BB's sacrifice some beauty for the visual implication of strength.
While men ARE sensitive to the attractiveness of other men, it exerts less influence on their perceptions than it does on those of women. So even though women are attracted to the appearance of strength, they weigh the aesthetic component more heavily than men do, and favor old generation bodies. Men weigh the strength component more heavily than women, since they are less sensitive to male attractiveness, and so it's understandable that there would be a lot of disagreement between men about what type of body is better since men are going to differ in their degress of sensitivty to male attractiveness and in the degree to which they value strength.
I'll bet 50% of the population (women) pretty much unanimously favors old generation bodies over new ones. A lot of women don't like guys who are too big. After all, the psychological basis for a yardstick to judge beauty is the median characteristics of a population.
I think it's a little more complicated with BB though. IMO beauty and the appearance of strength are two different characteristics that make men attractive. They partly go hand in hand, but aren't one and the same. New generation BB's sacrifice some beauty for the visual implication of strength.
While men ARE sensitive to the attractiveness of other men, it exerts less influence on their perceptions than it does on those of women. So even though women are attracted to the appearance of strength, they weigh the aesthetic component more heavily than men do, and favor old generation bodies. Men weigh the strength component more heavily than women, since they are less sensitive to male attractiveness, and so it's understandable that there would be a lot of disagreement between men about what type of body is better since men are going to differ in their degress of sensitivty to male attractiveness and in the degree to which they value strength.
bicepts101
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Anybody said:
does everything have to about women...should u alter ur passion cause the "majority" of women will not approve?.....no...i look at it like this, keep doing what u like if most of the women u meet dont approve dont sweat it cause there is still a bunch that dont care either way.
bicepts101
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you're saying from that last post that women cont like the new bbs look right? so u are implying that we should not look like that for the sole purpose that the majority of women dont approve
LT3
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There you have it. i totally agree. and we also have to look at bbing as a sport and not a hoby. when ronnie hits 300lbs, thats the same as a baseball player hitting homeruns, boxers improving their punch, basketball players improving their shot. it has nothing to do with women. it has to do with the requirement of the sport. but when you look at bbing like a hobby to looks better and have a nice beach body, then women become an issue (the main issue for some guys). but you have to understand that this is certainly not the case in bbing.
heavy_duty
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bicepts101 said:
I'm not saying that BB's shouldnt look like the hulk. Search my post for that opinion, it isn't there! I happen to be a Coleman fan, so don't put words in my mouth. Anyway, weren't you posting about old school looks better?
I'm explaining my opinion about why different types of bodies appeal to different people. Women count as people (outside of Eastern countries). So I don't think their opinion about what kind of body looks good is irrelevant (should we ignore 50% of the population when we ask "what kind of body looks the best?").
I'm not talking about what the goals of BB should be. What I'm talking about is how there are different things about muscular bodies that different people like. It's not just women, lots of men also prefer a more harmonious, well-proportioned body instead of cartoonish hugeness, and IMO that's rooted in the same aesthetic sensibility that attracts women. But there's obviously a lot to be said for a look that conveys raw power in the most extreme way humanly possible. I personally think Coleman looks badass (especially for a 40 year old!!), and I'd give him Olympia over Arnold in his prime, but plenty of people disagree with me. I'm trying to explain what i think is the basis for that disagreement.
It is always difficult to overcome the pioneers in thier respective fields. Arnold and company put bodybuilding on the map. There is no way to fairly compare the new breed of bodybuilders with the old.
It's sort of like comparing a Boss 429 Mustang with the new Mustang. The new one is faster and handles better but, you just can't beat the Boss.
Just my nickels worth.
It's sort of like comparing a Boss 429 Mustang with the new Mustang. The new one is faster and handles better but, you just can't beat the Boss.
Just my nickels worth.
bicepts101
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LT3 said:
i agree bro
i just lift for the look but the look i look for is the one i disire not all women. i have had women tell me they dont like muscle at all....wierd to me cuase i love it...so i told those chicks to hit the road. now i have a women that does my injects for me. its great
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