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The Only SANE Way To Burn Fat

Nelson Montana

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I'll get right to the point.

I don't believe in stimulents of any kind. Besides the fact that I feel like crap on them, they only agitate the nervous system, suppressing the appetite and ironically, forcing your metabolism to get SLOWER.

That's right. Remember at all times, the body is an adaptive mechanism. Try and speed it up, and it will retaliate in an effort to remain homeostasis by slowing down, hoarding fat. That's why I've never liked ephedra. And to all the people who swear by it, all I have to say is this...if it worked so well, why do you still need it? And why isn't everyone lean after years of ephedra use? Nah, it just gets you jacked. If that's what you want, fine. But as a fat loss supplement, it sucks out loud.

I won't even discuss DNP. I'm old school. I want to be strong and healthy. DNP doesn't fit into that plan.

So what's left? Cardio? Dont get me started.

Diet? No shit. But we all know that.

There's only one way to burn more fat than by simply expending more energy than calories and that's by hyping the thyroid. The only problem is, thyroid hormones are like any exogenous therapy in that they are suppressive. Some might argue that the thyroid will rebound much like the HPTA but I disagree. I think the thyroid is more delicate. But it's a moot point anyway since muscle grown from steroids is muscle. It can be maintained. Fat loss from thyroid drug use, can not be maintained. It's a dangerous game for a temporary fix. That's the bitch.

Nope, the only thing to do is to get your own thyroid working at full steam. But get this. There are probably things you're doing right now that are fucking up optimum thyroid function. Here are a few examples.

Cruciferous vegetables; Believe it or not, broccoli contains something called thiourea whih suppresses thyroid function.

Low carb diets: They slow the metabolism and hinder thyroid output.

Peaches: I love them. But they too impair thyroid fuction. Bananas are good.

Melatonin: Lowers body temperature. The thyroid in turn slows down to store fat. (Fat provides heat)

Green tea; This popular fat loss product contains flouride, which stunts T4 output.

Aspartame: Studies in rats showed that aspartame shut down thyroid function permanently.

TOFU: If you eat this shit in the name of health, you're kidding yourself. It's estrogenic and estrogen impairs thyroid function (which is why more women are hypothyroid)

Gugglesterones: Wait a minute, this stuff is sold in thyroid supplements, isn't it? Yeah. but it can also raise estrogen. (No wonder it clears acne)

Forskolin: Another popular thyroid supplement has been shown to exasperate prostate cancer. Fuck this stuff. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Okay, what's good?


Acetyl L Tyrosine: The key nutrient to a faster metabolism. Without it, your thyroid dies.


Kelp: A fave of Arnold and Zane. The old timers fat loss product still works. And iodine deficiency will cause hypothyroidism within days.


Selenium: The most overlooked nutrient in bodybuilding: It's what converts T4 into the fat burning T3. If your body doesn't convert the T4, it's useless.


Olive Leaf. Used for years as an immunity booster, recent studies show it improves thyroid fuction. A strong immune system usually means a strong thyroid. Almost all people with suppressed immunity systems also have suppressed thyroids.


Coconut oil. That's right. Saturated fat. This is supposed to be the worst stuff in the world for you, right? It improves thyroid function. More evidence that the so called experts don't know shit.


Thyroid gland Extract: Some may say it's folklore but that's what they said about desiccated thyroid gland even though it was used successfully for years for the treatment of hypothyroidism.


7 Keto DHEA. This is the shit. Plenty of evidence on this one. Even doctors will recommend NOT taking it if you take thyroid medication because it can raise thyroid output TOO MUCH. (So why don't they lower the dosage and recommend using 7 keto dhea?)
People who were diagnosed with low thyroid got their TSH levels into the normal range with just the use of 7 keto DHEA. This may be the best fat loss product on the market.


Okay, shameless plug coming up so if you
don't want to hear it, stop reading now. But I believe strongly in all these substances and research backs it up -- including my own personal experience. That's why I recommended them for Protein Factory.com's weight loss product ZIP! Honestly, if you're looking for something that will get you jacked, it's not for you. But if you're looking for something that will give focus and clarity and help burn fat on a consistent basis without suppression, there's nothing better. As a matter of fact, the more you use it, the better it is for your thyroid. It's a REAL thermogenic -- one that uses fat for fuel as opposed to raising body temperature through central nervous stimulants.

And BTW, stacking ZIP! with Thermorexin has got to be the most kick-ass fat loss combo EVER. (proceed with caution though)

Don't be a fool and use T3 or DNP or even overdose on stimulants use to gain the fat back once you stop. Eat right. Train hard. And try ZIP! or the ZIP!/T-Rex combo. It works.
 
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I guess you posted this cause of my reply on the thread, well thanks for the reply.

Two things though:

1) You mentioned you don't like stimulants than you suggest thermorexin.

2) What kind of a diet do you suggest? Please don't say eat less, because for me being technical about diet is very important.

So you don't like keto, but what about something like Arnold suggested in his book? Low carbs, enough to be places right above ketosis?

-sk
 
I've got 2 questions to......

What do you think about clen?

Since PF didn't reply my email maybe you can answer this, when are the new supps you talked about available on their website (for the Europeans)?

Mr Pink
 
If you can tolerate stimulents T-Rex is one of the better pre-workout formulas, maybe the best. But as mentioned, permanent fat loss comes from a well functioning thyroid.

Low carbs is the way to go, but not ketosis.

Clen is a powerful stimulent and will not provide log lasting results. Down regulation from clen is quick.

The address is www.proteinfactory.com
 
Nelson Montana said:
If you can tolerate stimulents T-Rex is one of the better pre-workout formulas, maybe the best. But as mentioned, permanent fat loss comes from a well functioning thyroid.

Low carbs is the way to go, but not ketosis.

Clen is a powerful stimulent and will not provide log lasting results. Down regulation from clen is quick.

The address is www.proteinfactory.com

I went to the sight and can't find t-rex or zip. What is it under?
 
is that the way Arnold & Co burn fat? didnt they just steroids to get ripped? i have allways wonder that one. Comon nelson, tell us more!!

C
 
I am going to agree with Nelson to the extent of my experiences with the Thermo products. Unlike NM, I like the way that I feel when I am "jacked" on Ep, or T-rex. I have use EAC stacks for about 14 years and I guess I have taken them more for the stimulation than the fat loss, but either way, if the shit worked all that great, then I should be skinny as a rail. But I am not. I always had to cycle off of them because they would seem to lose their effectiveness and I would always eat like hell and get lazy while OFF.
I have tried T-rex and I love the "feeling" from it anf the energy is great. But I have gotten more irritable to say the least and the waking up to piss 3 or four times a night is a drag.
I have not tried "ZIP" but I have spent my money on just about everything else on the market...so I will probably try this one to.
 
Bam Bam said:
And I add to the question list- Do you not believe in cardio? If not, why not? BamBam

Shit man dont get started on this. This has been played to death. If you want lots of reading to do ... do a search on Cardio.

Mavy
 
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