The Official "Overkill" Supp Cycle

[PlateheadJim]

Ok, I've been using gear over the last 2 years and the only prohormone I've used was 4-AD (Androsol) with moderate success. My regimine has been historically Tren+Winny+Halo with some Abombs / dbol / or test thrown in if it's a bulking cycle.

Well, ordering gear has become a bigger and bigger pain in the ass so I thought, what the hell... I'll try to replicate it with Pro-steroids..

Here's my cycle - I'll post results when they occur:

Kilo Sports

1-Test Base, transdermal method 60% Everclear / 20% IPM / 20% Oleic Acid - 400mg a day (spray twice per day)

1-Test Ether - oral, 400mg a day, spread over 4 doses

1-AD - oral, 300mg a day, spread over 2 doses in between 1 Test doses

ErogoPharm / Avant Labs (I have both right now)

4-AD - transdermal at 800mg per day - spray twice a day

Moleculear Nutrition

3-Alpha for additional hardness.. Recommended dose daily

Anyway, I started this yesterday and in theory it should be close to previous gear cycles as far as hardness, moderate mass, and strenght increases... We'll see.

 

[3000GT]

Hey PlateHeadJim, you should start going by IronLiverJim. Did somebody bet you that you couldn't get liver cancer in 2 years, so you set out to prove them wrong? Halo, winny, d-bol and A-bombs???? Holy poop. I think you've made a good move (for your liver anyway) in trying pro-hormones. I'm pretty curious to see how those doses work out for ya. Good luck.

 

[Mysterio]

Bump interesting!

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

CirrhosisJim......

I bet you chased your Halo, winny, and dbol with a beer, huh?

Good luck with the Ph's

Ross

 

[fhg43]

even that many PHs will be hard on the liver. Bust out the milk thistle and drink 2 gallons of water a day.

FHG

Plate Head Jim's liver:

 

[PlateheadJim]

So Far So Good

Here's what an adjusted look at what I've been taking for about 1 week:

1000mg of 4-AD (transdermal + 4ADEC oral)
800mg of 1-Test (transdermal 400mg, oral 400mg)
350mg of 1-AD oral
300mg of 5AA (for hardness / estrogen suppression)

So far, minor strength increases but noticeable - similar to a Tren/winny/halo cycle at least in the first week.

Increased aggression, but not bad considering all my experience with Tren & Halo it's quite controllable!

Slight increase in acne

Endurance possibly down slightly

Body comp - to early to tell but I do notice more hardness and less water retention, probably mostly due to the 5AA

As far as toxicity to the liver I'm afraid most supp users that don't have much experience with the real thing make some pretty broad assumptions. DON'T FORGET, the average out of shape jack ass does several of the following or all:

- Takes diabetic medicine to make up for bad eating habits
- Takes dueritics like Lassix because they are bloated whales
- Drinks alcohol on a regular basis
- Takes too much pain med like Tylonel because they are too weak to handle a little pain
- Smokes
- Eats large quantities of twinkies
- Sits on ass the majority of the time
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

All of the above listed items are either directly or indirectly bad on the liver. Now let's compare a body builder or athlete (those that half-ass things need not apply):
- Eats clean
- cranks it out between 8-12 hours a week
- Doesn't touch alcohol
- Doesn't need diabetic drugs
- Avoids pain med

Now tell me? How on fucking earth will oral steroids bring a healthy stud like myself down to his knees? As I've stated before blood tests don't lie and as far as they read I'm fucking 18 not 31!

 

[Fortes]

"800mg of 1-Test (transdermal 400mg, oral 400mg)
350mg of 1-AD oral"

This, to me, seems utterly redundant. You might as well take one or the other and SAVE the product you don't use for another cycle. BTW, you'd do better to go for 800 mg 1-test transdermal than splitting it up like that. But even so . . .

800 mg of 1-Test daily?!?!?!?! WTF!?!?!?!?!

People are gaining 10-12 lbs. in 2 weeks going 200 mg/day transdermal. Why fuck around with such high dosages?

"1000mg of 4-AD (transdermal + 4ADEC oral)"

I've done this job before . . . I've taken 4 500 mg caps/day of 4-AD (two grams!) unesterfied and I noticed some good things:

1) Increase in strength
2) All my nagging joint pains were GONE! I could stand on my feet all day and my knees would feel fine

I also noticed some BAD things . . .

1) Stretch marks on chest and love-handles post cycle . . . I re-grew my childhood bitchtits. Doh!

If you are endomorphic like me, it would probably be best to hit up an anti-e post cycle . . .

Good luck, keep posting, you mad dosage monger! I'm curious as hell.

 

[riskybizz007]

I don't like the whole transdermal idea... and I don't mind popping a pill every few hours so I'd much rather put the 1test in a capsule and take it every few hours till you reach your 800mg or w/e you want. Probobly be even better to just incorporate the 4AD and 1Test into 1 capsule and take throughout the day.

 

[PlateheadJim]

14 DAYS Results/Sides So Far

Overall, not bad compared to one of my AAS cycles. Of course it's early so I don't need to jump to conclusions.

Results:
I've gained about 5 pounds of solid mass, no change in diet. I've been able to avoid overtraining despite massive amounts of iron pumping. Strength is about the same, muscle hardness is looking better (I'm pretty hard most of the time anyway).

Sides:
Unfortunately my sides have been more pronounced then expected - in fact I've seen worse sides in this "legal" cycle then any AAS cycle in the past! In just 2 weeks I've seen a noticeable acne increase, Halo like aggression & bitchiness, horrible insomonia - which I will usually get on a dbol or Test cycle but only after 5-6 weeks on.

 

[drveejay11]

Hey PlateHeadJim, you should start going by IronLiverJim. Did somebody bet you that you couldn't get liver cancer in 2 years, so you set out to prove them wrong? Halo, winny, d-bol and A-bombs???? Holy poop. I think you've made a good move (for your liver anyway) in trying pro-hormones. I'm pretty curious to see how those doses work out for ya. Good luck.

No shit!!!! Ouch!