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The Official Genetic Limitation Thread

b fold the truth said:


Someone missed the point...lol.

I did take several BIO courses as well as Anatomy and Phisiology. At no point did the short fat professor talk about genetic limitations of the elite athlete.

Also...I don't think that ANYONE has even mentioned respirating water, growing to 20', or digesting cellulose. You argue using points that can not be done no matter how you work.

Heck...what do I know though. I haven't done anything to prove science and genetic limitations wrong. lol

B True

Someone sure did.

That's because genes don't apply only to elite athletes. They apply to all things with genes. Mention of elite athletes is of no consequence.

They are done by organisms which have different genes and, thusly, different genetic limits.

No, you haven't done anything to prove science and genetic limitations wrong. lol
 
Imakarum_Mirabilis said:


No, you haven't done anything to prove science and genetic limitations wrong. lol

You are right...and wrong.

Wrong: I was told when I was 15 and dying that I would always be skinny and thin. Just imagine me at 152 pounds with big hands and feet and 6'2". How many people do you know at age 16 that wore a size 16 shoe and was only 6'2" and weighed 152? Not many here.

I was also told that I would never be able to be big, lift weights, or train in Martial Arts...much less compete ever again. Within 2 years I competed at my first Martial Arts Tournament back...and won 1st in Forms, 1st in Weapons, Overall Grand Champion, and took first in Fighting too. Heck...I won my last fight in 38 seconds...5-0 (including the time it took the judges to say break and score points).

As a Pro Strongman...I look back and laugh at those doctors who told me that it would be impossible to be what I am. Sure...without being sick for several years I surely would have been A LOT taller and maybe even bigger...but I did the best that I could with what little I had.

Right: You are right...maybe I didn't prove science wrong with anything that I did. I was given some of the best mental genetics on Earth...and I have put them to good use. Maybe, just maybe, I have been given average genetics and I have put them to BETTER use than most everyone else has. Yeah...I think THAT is correct. I just made the MOST of mine...where so many others have given up along the way.

B True
 
Remember guys, by saying there is no genetical limit it doesn't mean we are going against science. Maybe science has to catch up ...

-sk
 
b fold the truth said:


You are right...and wrong.

Wrong: I was told when I was 15 and dying that I would always be skinny and thin. Just imagine me at 152 pounds with big hands and feet and 6'2". How many people do you know at age 16 that wore a size 16 shoe and was only 6'2" and weighed 152? Not many here.

I was also told that I would never be able to be big, lift weights, or train in Martial Arts...much less compete ever again. Within 2 years I competed at my first Martial Arts Tournament back...and won 1st in Forms, 1st in Weapons, Overall Grand Champion, and took first in Fighting too. Heck...I won my last fight in 38 seconds...5-0 (including the time it took the judges to say break and score points).

As a Pro Strongman...I look back and laugh at those doctors who told me that it would be impossible to be what I am. Sure...without being sick for several years I surely would have been A LOT taller and maybe even bigger...but I did the best that I could with what little I had.

Right: You are right...maybe I didn't prove science wrong with anything that I did. I was given some of the best mental genetics on Earth...and I have put them to good use. Maybe, just maybe, I have been given average genetics and I have put them to BETTER use than most everyone else has. Yeah...I think THAT is correct. I just made the MOST of mine...where so many others have given up along the way.

B True


Just because the people who gave their opinions regarding your future were doctors does not mean they were correct, that their predictions were based on science, and it certainly doesn't have any impact on an argument regarding genetics.
 
If there is such thing as a genetic limit, or there isn't. I dont care. You guys shouldnt eaither. I made the LEAST progress in my training when I kept bitching to myself about how my peers were MUCH bigger and stronger than me even though they didnt even work out.

I just stopped caring about it and I started making big gains because I told myself that I can grow as much as anyone can if I lift hard and eat right

I will keep thinking and training like I have the ability to be as big as strong as I WANT to be. you guys who keep trying to prove there are genetic limitations with these rediculous examples can keep making excuses for yourselves
 
t3c said:
If there is such thing as a genetic limit, or there isn't. I dont care. You guys shouldnt eaither. I made the LEAST progress in my training when I kept bitching to myself about how my peers were MUCH bigger and stronger than me even though they didnt even work out.

I just stopped caring about it and I started making big gains because I told myself that I can grow as much as anyone can if I lift hard and eat right

I will keep thinking and training like I have the ability to be as big as strong as I WANT to be. you guys who keep trying to prove there are genetic limitations with these rediculous examples can keep making excuses for yourselves

Good post.
 
I agree with t3c!!!

And one more thing. . . guys. . be careful about spreading your genetics. . . . it can lead to bad things.


You know what I am talking about!
 
I think some people on this thread may have misunderstood my intentions in stating that we have genetic limits. I didnt mean it to be an excuse to be lazy or to be a pathetic whiner, which is what most people who complain about being screwed with bad genetics do. I read these boards to learn from the experts (you guys) about how to work out. If I find an opportunity to contribute what I know to the conversation then I do it. The original question in this thread was "do we have genetic limits to how big and strong we can be". My answer to that is still yes, because it is the truth. Understand that I am not using that fact as an excuse to be lazy or complain. It's just the way things are. You are always better knowing the reality of things even though you may not like it so that you can effectively deal with it. Denying what is true because one doesnt want to believe it just makes that person seem foolish and holds them back from acheiving their goals. I think a lot of the reason why so many people hate the idea of having a genetic limit is because people have been telling them their whole lives that they cant acheive their goals because they are too sick, too short, too fat, too dumb, etc. Surprise: those people have no idea in hell what your genetic limit is do they? Do they have a copy of your genome in front of them? NO. Do they know who you are? No. Truth of the matter is most people dont have the balls to do the work to find out what their limit is. Human beings are finite, we all have limits, but its up to you to find out what that limit is, not have some one tell you what it is.
 
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