the new Nazi's

[danielson]

poink- i realise there is.......none the less they are dying, and for every 100 cases where children were killed accidentally,how much could have been done to prevent it

babydoc- again, i do agree with you on that (i.e. terrorists blow up a school bus etc), but it doesnt always happen that way in terms of the warning. if your house gets shelled, what can you do if you;ve been told to stay inside? where do u evacuate to? they have no bunkers, the streets may be deadly to walk on.....

 

[StoneColdGold]

so which side do you side with?

arabs target women and kids ok.......


but jews have killed more people, or at least recent stats showed when they moved their troops into jenin etc. they do kill kids too, even if not always on purpose

my empathy lies with the jews, mainly because i feel the arabs' zealous religious ideologies are light-years away from "the way things are" (by which i mean my views on universal reality as expressed through theology, philosophy of religion, and metaphysics).

these arab extremists are a people who seek death, for themselves and others. they believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife for their nefarious brand of "holiness" by being surrounded by a plethora of willing virgins. the are religious exlusivists in the extreme. they are the antithesis of tolerance, a concept which the human race must increasingly embrace, or suffere the likely consequence of total annihilation.

i understand the hands of the jews are not totally clean in this. i mean, the jews lost posession of modern-day Israel THOUSANDS of years ago during the diaspora. it was only very recently they decided they wanted it back. and yes, they took it by force, displacing those who were already there. sounds a bit like something my own beloved countrymen did just a few hundred years ago to an indigenous people. i can't really make a conclusive commentary on this. part of me believes this country was born via one of the greatest cultural tragedies of all time in the destruction of the native american population. the other part of me thinks change is the only constant in this life, and you either jump on the wagon or get run over.

in my eyes, the bottom line is this: the jews are a more tolerant, socially aware, and spiritually mature people than are the palestinians. from a social evolution point of view, the jews are more justified in pushing out the palestinians than the early americans were in overwhelming the indians.

 

[Longhorn85]

in my eyes, the bottom line is this: the jews are a more tolerant, socially aware, and spiritually mature people than are the palestinians. from a social evolution point of view, the jews are more justified in pushing out the palestinians than the early americans were in overwhelming the indians.

That is an honest, frank assesment! Can you imagine if our president said this, and therefore was going to put America's military and financial backing behind Israel to finally defeat the Palestinians and put an end to this crisis?

 

[strong island]

Not only do the Palestinian Terrorists kill their own children....THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING PALESTINIAN CHILDREN.

Unfortunately innocent Palestinians are killed because the Terrorists hide amongst them.

Hamas, Jihad and other Terrorist organizations always put themselves right in the middle of heavily populated areas...knowing this will result in the deaths of innocents.

Those fucking animals TARGET discos, weddings, restaurants, buses etc etc.

THEY ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF LIFE ON THE PLANET AND SHOULD BE ELIMINATED QUICKLY AND WITHOUT HESITATION.

 

[minion]

Operation Swordfish.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

Your the one brainwashed by these blood thirsty pieces of shit. Someone made an excellant post a few months ago about the history of the whole arab/jew conflict. In 1967 the Arabs came in to attack the Jews and got their asses beat by the bad ass isreali army. To set an example for the rest of the Arab world that wants them dead, they not only pulvarized the attackers but took their land. Im sure if Mexico went crazy and tried to attack us we would first kill them all and then take their land.

Funny how nobody ever mentions the fact how Israel seized palastinian land (Gaza, West Bank) in 1967. Oh...now they are seizing more..don't forget. Imagine foreign country occupying a part of Texas...we would slaughter them without blinking .


So stop being brainwashed by Israeli propaganda....both sides are to blame for the fucking mess.

These people hate anything that is a democracy. Now they want to start attacking us.

 

[Lao Tzu]

my empathy lies with the jews, mainly because i feel the arabs' zealous religious ideologies are light-years away from "the way things are" (by which i mean my views on universal reality as expressed through theology, philosophy of religion, and metaphysics).

these arab extremists are a people who seek death, for themselves and others. they believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife for their nefarious brand of "holiness" by being surrounded by a plethora of willing virgins. the are religious exlusivists in the extreme. they are the antithesis of tolerance, a concept which the human race must increasingly embrace, or suffere the likely consequence of total annihilation.

i understand the hands of the jews are not totally clean in this. i mean, the jews lost posession of modern-day Israel THOUSANDS of years ago during the diaspora. it was only very recently they decided they wanted it back. and yes, they took it by force, displacing those who were already there. sounds a bit like something my own beloved countrymen did just a few hundred years ago to an indigenous people. i can't really make a conclusive commentary on this. part of me believes this country was born via one of the greatest cultural tragedies of all time in the destruction of the native american population. the other part of me thinks change is the only constant in this life, and you either jump on the wagon or get run over.

in my eyes, the bottom line is this: the jews are a more tolerant, socially aware, and spiritually mature people than are the palestinians. from a social evolution point of view, the jews are more justified in pushing out the palestinians than the early americans were in overwhelming the indians.

I can relate. I am starting to support Israel too because they are a scientifically evolved democracy with human rights that are better than anything in Iraq or Iran. A democratic, scientifically evolved society is better than an authoritarian backwards cult.

However, i just don't buy the whole 'palestinians are bad, israelis are good' argument. If it were that simple it wouldn't even be an issue, there are always more than 1 side to a story. No one mentions that Menachim Begin, prime minister of israel, was also a terrorist in the 1930's & 1940's, and that his terrorist organization helped kill women & children. However everyone is quick to point out how the palestinians terrorize schoolbuses & discoteques.

http://www.sana.org/english/reports/New Reports/israeli_terrorism2.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/ia/palestinefoever/palterror.html

http://www.geocities.com/ahlulbayt14/fact5.html

 

[K.A.R.R.]

http://www.sana.org/english/reports/New Reports/israeli_terrorism2.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/ia/palestinefoever/palterror.html

http://www.geocities.com/ahlulbayt14/fact5.html

I'm sorry, but those links are outrageously biased and full of propaganda. The first link is from www.sana.org - that's a state-controlled Syrian site - Syria is an authoritarian, backward state. Everything that you see on that website has zero credibility.

The other two links are just as bad. If you want good info, you'd have to go to your local public or university library or find some reputable scholarly journal online.

 

[Lao Tzu]

I'm sure the sources are biased, anytime there is an issue there don't tend to be many independent sources of information.

However, i don't see how that makes the arguments false. No one here condemns Menachim Begin and his terrorist outfit Irgun, but everyone condemns Yassir Arafat and the PLO.

 

[TheClash]

Israeli scientists have armed Shin Beth agents with radioactive aerosol sprays. When PLO and other dissidents are arrested and taken to an Israeli police station or detention centre, they are strip-searched. Their clothes are then given a small squirt from an aerosol which contains a radioactive chemical.

The chemical is invisible, odourless and leaves an undetectable residue on the clothes. But a small squirt of the substance enables Israeli agents and Defence Force "snatch squads" to detect a person previously arrested. This is done by detector vans equipped with ultra-sophisticated Geiger counter that pinpoints a person who has been previously sprayed.

The vans are identical to those already used by IDF patrols. The aerosol and detector equipment was developed at Israel's top-secret institute for Biological Research situated in the Tel Aviv suburb of New Ziona. Its laboratories are partly staffed with East German and Russian Jewish scientists who had worked for both their countries' intelligence. Most of its twelve acres of laboratories are underground and protected by state-of-the-art security systems.

Details about the aerosol and other work carried on at the Biological Institute were revealed last week by CIA Director George Tenet in a briefing to the incoming Bush transition team. Some of its members were described as being "absolutely horrified" by what they had been told. It is likely that when he assumed office, Secretary of State Colin Powell will raise the matter with the Barak government.

Last week the Institute allowed a rare visitor from the outside - Ariel Sharon, almost certain to be Israel's next prime minister, according to the pollsters.

The contents of the sprays is made from radioactive material known as Scandium 64. This is highly lethal over a lengthy period as it permeates clothing with gamma radiation. Former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky who has previously revealed much about the activities at the Institute has confirmed that lethal tests on Arab prisoners have been conducted there.

The decision to use the aerosols was approved by Avraham Dichter, the head of Shin Beth. Dichter is a former commando leader who served in the army under Ehud Barak. The two men met in Tel Aviv on December 28. At the meeting Dichter produced documents which claimed to show that the PLO have trained some 7,000 youngsters in basic military training - and that the PLO have obtained Stinger missiles and Sam-16 anti-aircraft missiles. Mossad sources say that the weapons were smuggled in from Iran.

The Atomic Energy Commission in Vienna, Austria, confirmed that one of the side-effects of Scandium 64 is to create impotency in a male and severely damage the fallopian tubes of a woman.

The doses used for aerosol spraying are believed to be in the region of 150 millisierverts per spraying. According to the Atomic Energy Commission scale for the weekly regulation maximum exposure dose - this is 149 times higher than is internationally accepted.


Senior intelligence sources in Tel Aviv have told me that during his visit to the Biological Institute, Sharon was fully briefed on the use of the aerosol - and is reported to have given full support for its use.