The Nation Spoke

[mrplunkey]

Indeed, it will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

I want to see Speaker Pelosi try to sell her Iraq plan by saying: "When they step-up, we'll stand down."

Here's what we know:

1) We aren't leaving Iraq any sooner than two years... even if the presidency and Congress were 100% democrat or republican.

2) We aren't staying in Iraq any later than 8-10 years... even if the presidency and Congress were 100% democrat or republican.

3) We aren't going to publish a fixed timeline for withdrawl, since the terrorists could just superimpose their bombing and re-occupation timeline on top of it.

So yeah... I really look forward to the new, insightful plan that will set everything right.

 

[AAP]

yeah. . .a couple of years worth of cuts in defense/intelligence spending and we'll have skyscrapers laying in our streets again

Just like they did in the past when Bushie refused to listen to those people better prepared than he?

 

[digimon7068]

Just like they did in the past when Bushie refused to listen to those people better prepared than he?

clinton layed all of the ground work. . .bushie was just unlucky enough to be in the chair when the plan came to fruition. . .

 

[AAP]

clinton layed all of the ground work. . .bushie was just unlucky enough to be in the chair when the plan came to fruition. . .

The intel was all there... all he had to do was just listen... instead of occupying his thoughts with nothing but Iraq.

 

[manny78]

Wasnt Clinton offered Ben Laden on a silver plate ?

 

[AAP]

Wasnt Clinton offered Ben Laden on a silver plate ?

And Bush was too.

 

[mrplunkey]

clinton layed all of the ground work. . .bushie was just unlucky enough to be in the chair when the plan came to fruition. . .

So true. Rogue nations and global terrorism is always a "pay me now or pay me later" proposition.

It's easy to look back and call Iraq a mistake, but notice how both parties are running like mad from North Korea? Is there a single poster on this board that doesn't think:

1) NK will keep developing nuclear weapon technology

2) NK will make that technology available to a number of countries

3) NK nuclear technology will show-up somewhere and do some real damage in the next 10 years.

I'm willing to bet not a single person, liberal or conservative, would argue against those three things.

But now look at it from any single president's perspective: If you can lay low and just pretend it isn't happening, you can get past your administration, get your presidential library built, and be immortalized.

At this point, we'll probably need some good old NK nuclear engineering to show up in a LA or Manhattan port. Then, we'll all (democrats and republicans alike) act suprised and go do something about it.

 

[manny78]

And Bush was too.

Makes them equally dumb and responsible then.

 

[digimon7068]

The intel was all there... all he had to do was just listen... instead of occupying his thoughts with nothing but Iraq.

ummm. . .not sure what calendar you're using but, i'm pretty sure the focus on iraq showed up a little after 09/11/2001

 

[digimon7068]

At this point, we'll probably need some good old NK nuclear engineering to show up in a LA or Manhattan port. Then, we'll all (democrats and republicans alike) act suprised and go do something about it.

yeah. . .and six months later the bleeding heart liberals will be whining because we're spending money on national defense and they'll be "shocked" by all the people that are dying. . .DURING A WAR. . .

how soon we forget. . .

there's a real good reason why nothing has happened here since 09/11. . .we took the fight to them. . .period. . .