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From Flexonline - which went out of their way to make Ronnie look like shit in the pictures. I dont' get it. Their pictures were so obviously misleading. The only reason I can think of is that they were trying a bait and switch type marketing ploy to still get people to sign up for the PPV.

Eighth Wonder of the World


Written by: Michael Berg, Flex Executive Editor

For the first time since Ronnie Coleman won the Sandow in 1998, a competitor caught him from behind. That man was Jay Cutler, and whenever the two went mano-a-mano in a back pose, it was evident how far Cutler had come in his development. In a feat many thought would never happen, Coleman, he of the freaky mass and stunning detail in his lats, mid-back and traps, was far from a shoo-in on this pose.
However, in the end, even that wasn't enough to stop the reign of Coleman, who made it eight in a row, tying him with Lee Haney for the Olympia record.

All told, this Olympia had more than its share of trauma, drama and controversy. From the opening segment of the night show, when powerlifter Gene Rychalik took the stage to attempt to break his all-time bench press record and press 1,015 pounds, only to end up broken himself under the bar as his try went awry, it was a crazy night. There were disgruntled athletes backstage, crying foul over the supposed "belly ban" that didn't seem to alter the scores in any way. You had wasp-waisted David Henry and Kris Dim out of the top 10, the most overlooked bodybuilder in the show in Darrem Charles crashing into ninth (when he just as easily could have been as high as third), and you had a top six where again the mass monsters dominated - mighty Dennis James in sixth, massive Gunter Schlierkamp in fourth, and of course Coleman and Cutler in the top two spots. (Sandwiched in between were a very happy Victor Martinez in fifth and Gustavo Badell notching third for the second year in a row, an accomplishment he should be truly proud of.)

As part of the proceedings, the second-ever Challenge Round was held, as judged by former Mr. Olympias Larry Scott, Sergio Oliva, Frank Zane, Samir Bannout and Dorian Yates. A few technical difficulties marred the round, but in the end Gustavo Badell emerged the victor, $25,000 richer for the effort. Interestingly, during the round (which didn't count in the overall standings), Coleman lost a few poses, including a side triceps to both Cutler and Badell, and the tiebreaker, which was a general pose-off between him and Badell.

Other notable finishes on this 40th anniversary of the greatest show in bodybuilding include Jordan's Mustafa Mohammad breaking into the top 10, Branch Warren maintaining his roll - he won two pro shows in the past month - by coming in eighth, and Melvin Anthony, who clocked in at No. 7. California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger also made an appearance, stepping on stage with Joe Weider, who was honored with a standing ovation after the two spoke to the capacity crowd.

While the show ended much like seven others before it - Coleman flat on the floor as the announcement of second place was made, overwhelmed by his moment of triumph - the chain of events to that point was anything but ordinary. This was a Mr. Olympia that - for better or worse - will be talked about in bodybuilding circles for a long time.

2005 MR. OLYMPIA RESULTS

1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Jay Cutler
3 Gustavo Badell
4 Gunther Schlierkamp
5 Victor Martinez
6 Dennis James
7 Melvin Anthony
8 Branch Warren
9 Darrem Charles
10 Mustafa Mohammad
11 Johnnie Jackson
12 George Farah
13 Chris Cormier
14 David Henry
15 Markus Ruhl
Top six qualify for 2006 Mr. Olympia

Did not make top 15

Kris Dim
Alexander Fedorov
Craig Richardson
Ronny Rockell
Mike Sheridan
Quincy Taylor



Now on a side note... I am SOOOO glad Cormier bombed out. I only wish Priest was still in so he could kick sand in his face. Now we will have to listen to Cormier for 12 months complain about it in MD magazine.
Badell got third, which I hate. For no other reason than that fucked up side chest pose he does. Bitch needs to learn to pose.
Vic M place ahead of Darrem. WTF? Darrem was shafted horribly.
Alex Fed did worse than anyone ever imagined. The Weider hype machine has an egg on their face now, you can bet you won't be seeing Alex on anymore covers anytime soon. But at least his unibrow was symmetrical.
Johnnie Jackson should have placed ahead of Dennis James. Dennis was bloated like a whale, but Johnnie was dead on the money.

All in all, it did nothing but reenforce what I already believed... that the Arnold Classic is a much better contest.
 
a final lmao goes out to all who wonder who was gonna win this great "sporting" event
Look at the previos yrs winners. Yr in and yr out the same dude wins. I bet you cannot find another "sporting" event where the same dude has won the event the last 8 yrs in a row. Smells like a fraud to me, and peeps wonder why bb'ing gets no respect in the athletic community
2004 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
2003 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
2002 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
2001 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
2000 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
1999 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
1998 Mr. Olympia Results - Ronnie Coleman
1997 Mr. Olympia Results - Dorian Yates
1996 Mr. Olympia Results - Dorian Yates
1995 Mr. Olympia Results - Dorian Yates
1994 Mr. Olympia Results - Dorian Yates
1993 Mr. Olympia Results - Dorian Yates
1992 Mr. Olympia Results - Dorian Yates
1991 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1990 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1989 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1988 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1987 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1986 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1985 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1984 Mr. Olympia Results - Lee Haney
1983 Mr. Olympia Results - Samir Bannout
1982 Mr. Olympia Results - Chris Dickerson
1981 Mr. Olympia Results - Franco Columbu
1980 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1979 Mr. Olympia Results - Frank Zane
1978 Mr. Olympia Results - Frank Zane
1977 Mr. Olympia Results - Frank Zane
1976 Mr. Olympia Results - Franco Columbu
1975 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1974 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1973 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1972 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1971 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1970 Mr. Olympia Results - Arnold Schwarzenegger
1969 Mr. Olympia Results - Sergio Oliva
1968 Mr. Olympia Results - Sergio Oliva
1967 Mr. Olympia Results - Sergio Oliva
1966 Mr. Olympia Results - Larry Scott
1965 Mr. Olympia Results - Larry Scott
 
Yates didn't deserve his last one, but I would have given it to him to keep it out of Flex and Kevin's hands.
 
AAP said:
Yates didn't deserve his last one, but I would have given it to him to keep it out of Flex and Kevin's hands.


It's a fucked up beauty pageant...with all the good sports on this time of year who gives a fuck about this??? lol, I have seen zero espn coverage of the Mr.O, which further validates that this "sport" gets no respect.
 
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Next year I'll place in the Top Ten. I wasn't as dry as I should have been.
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Gambino said:
It's a fucked up beauty pageant...with all the good sports on this time of year who gives a fuck about this??? lol, I have seen zero espn coverage of the Mr.O, which further validates that this "sport" gets no respect.


If you think that is bad... check out this "sport".

http://media.putfile.com/BenchPress25

Fat men with rubber bands on their arms getting crushed under 1000 pounds. How boring. Why, they didnt even have any fitness flanking the stage to keep the attention of the audience.

Listen to the crowd reaction.. like a circus show. Priceless.
 
AAP said:
If you think that is bad... check out this "sport".

http://media.putfile.com/BenchPress25

Fat men with rubber bands on their arms getting crushed under 1000 pounds. How boring. Why, they didnt even have any fitness flanking the stage to keep the attention of the audience.

Listen to the crowd reaction.. like a circus show. Priceless.

Feats of strength, i.e. powerlifting, o-lifting, or strongman, get more respect in my eyes than posing in a thong...surely the overall popularity of these sports over bb'ing should be proof of that. The skill of a o-lifter is huge, are you gonna deny that?? ask the average american what he would rather watch, strenght sports or bb'ing and I bet most would say strenght sports
 
Interesting. Eh, you'll have that.

On a side note of that, I don't mean any disrespect to anyone that is gay, but I am curious how many gay people go to these shows that don't even work out, just to watch the guys. Same goes for the women's shows. I wonder how many lesbians go to those.

What is the "belly ban?" This is the first i've heard of it. Or should I say what "was," since it sounds like it wasn't enforced, whatever it is.

Whiskey
 
Powerlifting nowdays features nothing more than fat guys fresh from the all you can eat China King Buffet in shirts much too small trying to explode their gut everywhere.

Raw pressing feats - strongman type events - I am more inclined to watch. But that shit in the video? Puleaze. Man+Drugs+Iron is all you need. None of these shirts and rubber bands that add 250lbs to your bench. I would bet raw benching, JOhnny Jackson would have blown him away.

In other news... Jeremy won the Weider vs MuscleTech Bench press comp.

Atheletes were given 225 to press as many reps as they could. Jeremy did 54 reps with it. Nassar, with all the fucking trash talking he did and drugs he is using, only got 15 reps with it. Hell, I can outbench Nassar. Garrett Downing surprised me with getting 31 reps.

Complete results :

1) Jeramy Freeman 54 reps (Muscletech)
2) Phil Heath 46 reps (Weider)
3) Sebastian Zona 43 reps (Muscletech)
4) Garret Downing 31 reps (Weider)
5) Justin Brooks 25 reps (Muscletech)
6) Roland Kickinger 17 reps (Weider)
6) Christian Boeving 17 reps (Muscletech)
7) Nasser 15 reps (no joke) (Weider)


Keep in mind that last time they did this, Ronnie entered it and got over 70 reps with it. 77 although some people discredit his last two because he didn't press to lock out.
 
AAP said:
Powerlifting nowdays features nothing more than fat guys fresh from the all you can eat China King Buffet in shirts much too small trying to explode their gut everywhere.

Raw pressing feats - strongman type events - I am more inclined to watch. But that shit in the video? Puleaze. Man+Drugs+Iron is all you need. None of these shirts and rubber bands that add 250lbs to your bench. I would bet raw benching, JOhnny Jackson would have blown him away.

In other news... Jeremy won the Weider vs MuscleTech Bench press comp.

Atheletes were given 225 to press as many reps as they could. Jeremy did 54 reps with it. Nassar, with all the fucking trash talking he did and drugs he is using, only got 15 reps with it. Hell, I can outbench Nassar. Garrett Downing surprised me with getting 31 reps.

Complete results :

1) Jeramy Freeman 54 reps (Muscletech)
2) Phil Heath 46 reps (Weider)
3) Sebastian Zona 43 reps (Muscletech)
4) Garret Downing 31 reps (Weider)
5) Justin Brooks 25 reps (Muscletech)
6) Roland Kickinger 17 reps (Weider)
6) Christian Boeving 17 reps (Muscletech)
7) Nasser 15 reps (no joke) (Weider)


Keep in mind that last time they did this, Ronnie entered it and got over 70 reps with it. 77 although some people discredit his last two because he didn't press to lock out.


Lol my defensive gay bor i never said a fuckin' thing about powerlifting. why do you keep on talking about it?? I'm more partial to watching O-lifting, which you conveintly won't touch for some reason...watching half naked men pose on stage just doesn't do it for me, as well with 98% of the USA population
 
well??? what is the belly rule? also, do a lot of gay or lesbians go to bodybuilding competitions for the skin? I'm serious in asking. I've never been to one and am curious. Since it's not that big of a sport, I just don't see many people going to them, but i'm shure that i'm wrong

Whiskey
 
Is bodybuilding really a sport? That's like arguing Miss USA is a sport. It seems like all the sport of bodybuilding happens off the stage
 
I have no idea about the amount of gays that go there. Personally, I do not like muscles on my men so I would not find any of the bodybuilders - professional or not - to be attractive. My interest is solely from an artistic stand point to see how well some people can put on slabs of muscle and still make it look attractive. Vince Taylor was one of these. Shawn Ray was. Flex used to be before he went oil crazy and Ronnie 2001 was the best I have ever seen.

Last night, there was nobody that possessed everything I found interesting. Melvin has the structure, but needs calves desperately and more quad size. Jackson was close, but needs that ugly lump taken out of his neck.
 
so what is the belly rule?????? referring to GH gut or what? or was it for the powerlifters?

Whiskey
 
Gambino said:
It's a fucked up beauty pageant...with all the good sports on this time of year who gives a fuck about this??? lol, I have seen zero espn coverage of the Mr.O, which further validates that this "sport" gets no respect.
I agree 100%!!!!...its not even a SPORT, its a discipline thats all...cracks me up how these reporters write as if there was some sort of major action and incredible feats going on between these guys...you gotta be fucking kidding me...
 
I watched most of it fell asleep parts of it. LOL Jay looked great it should have been his conditioning was awesome. I was pissed at a few of the placing Darrem Charles and Warren branch should have place a lot higher. Gunter and Gustavo really brought it as well looked outstanding. Jay was pissed as he should have been his post interview he was like I don't even know if I will ever compete again dam!
 
AAP said:
Atheletes were given 225 to press as many reps as they could. Jeremy did 54 reps with it. Nassar, with all the fucking trash talking he did and drugs he is using, only got 15 reps with it. Hell, I can outbench Nassar. Garrett Downing surprised me with getting 31 reps.

Complete results :

1) Jeramy Freeman 54 reps (Muscletech)
2) Phil Heath 46 reps (Weider)
3) Sebastian Zona 43 reps (Muscletech)
4) Garret Downing 31 reps (Weider)
5) Justin Brooks 25 reps (Muscletech)
6) Roland Kickinger 17 reps (Weider)
6) Christian Boeving 17 reps (Muscletech)
7) Nasser 15 reps (no joke) (Weider)
Keep in mind that last time they did this, Ronnie entered it and got over 70 reps with it. 77 although some people discredit his last two because he didn't press to lock out.
Really, that last guy was pathetic. I've done 10 with that weight.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I watched most of it fell asleep parts of it. LOL Jay looked great it should have been his conditioning was awesome. I was pissed at a few of the placing Darrem Charles and Warren branch should have place a lot higher. Gunter and Gustavo really brought it as well looked outstanding. Jay was pissed as he should have been his post interview he was like I don't even know if I will ever compete again dam!
...... :finger2:
 
Whiskey said:
well??? what is the belly rule? also, do a lot of gay or lesbians go to bodybuilding competitions for the skin? I'm serious in asking. I've never been to one and am curious. Since it's not that big of a sport, I just don't see many people going to them, but i'm shure that i'm wrong

Whiskey


I believe it's basically a reaction to "growth hormone gut" which Ronnie has been noted for. I also think this is why he'd been working abs all year and maybe took away from his legs.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I believe it's basically a reaction to "growth hormone gut" which Ronnie has been noted for. I also think this is why he'd been working abs all year and maybe took away from his legs.


I think ronnies quads and hamstrings looked good, but his calves couldn't compare to Jay's. Plus Jay had that freaky looking, bigger left leg goin on. Wasn't this year supposed to focus more on symmetry? If so that could have hurt Jay. Plus, I noticed from looking at last years pics, that he was looking a little thick, or bloated in the midsection.
 
sublime35 said:
I think ronnies quads and hamstrings looked good, but his calves couldn't compare to Jay's. Plus Jay had that freaky looking, bigger left leg goin on. Wasn't this year supposed to focus more on symmetry? If so that could have hurt Jay. Plus, I noticed from looking at last years pics, that he was looking a little thick, or bloated in the midsection.


I dunno , I gave quads and hams to Jay. This is the one area I'm in agreement with most that Jay looked better. I would need to see more comparable tricep shots , but this is the other area Ronnie Coleman was attacked

Jay had no abs , period...
 
PBR said:
I agree 100%!!!!...its not even a SPORT, its a discipline thats all...cracks me up how these reporters write as if there was some sort of major action and incredible feats going on between these guys...you gotta be fucking kidding me...


No, what cracks me up, are the assclowns on this thread acting like this is something that ANYONE can do.

I busted my ass for 10 years trying to be a competitive bodybuilder, and I didn't even come close to knocking on the door of pro status.

Sport is just a vague description of so many different things considered athletic. When, and if a competitive level PL wants to call out a bodybuilder...I'd be inclined to listen to that argument...because I have done both, and frankly was more successful as a PL'r......but when we have a bunch of posers who would crumble under anything over 405 on a squat bar, or couldn't pull the same weight more than 3"s of the ground.......it means not one damn thing.
 
pitbullstl said:
No, what cracks me up, are the assclowns on this thread acting like this is something that ANYONE can do.

I busted my ass for 10 years trying to be a competitive bodybuilder, and I didn't even come close to knocking on the door of pro status.

Sport is just a vague description of so many different things considered athletic. When, and if a competitive level PL wants to call out a bodybuilder...I'd be inclined to listen to that argument...because I have done both, and frankly was more successful as a PL'r......but when we have a bunch of posers who would crumble under anything over 405 on a squat bar, or couldn't pull the same weight more than 3"s of the ground.......it means not one damn thing.

i hope that's not directed at me bor...i get about 505 in each lift :)
you even said yourself you couldn't muster the courage to don a man thong and prance on stage...don't make me find that quote :)
 
The Shadow said:
Bbing cant be a sport as there is no OBJECTIVELY defined winner

Is that THE definition of sport, or yours..??

My opinion is that any activity that involves athleticism is indeed a sport.

While the show may be construed as merely a pageant, the road to the show and/or the activity quotient is indeed a sport.
 
pitbullstl said:
Is that THE definition of sport, or yours..??

My opinion is that any activity that involves athleticism is indeed a sport.

While the show may be construed as merely a pageant, the road to the show and/or the activity quotient is indeed a sport.


Mine....


I can leave athleticism out of it as I consider Golf to be a sport as it at least requires a skill level, while no necessarily athleticism.

For me - bbing CANT be a sport as there is no clearly defined objective "terms" for winning...such as the most points, most runs, etc.
 
Gambino said:
i hope that's not directed at me bor...i get about 505 in each lift :)
you even said yourself you couldn't muster the courage to don a man thong and prance on stage...don't make me find that quote :)

I did more than one show holmes.......while I did not like the pageantry aspect of the sport, nor the attire, it was a necessary evil.

The homophobia is a little third gradish....eh...?
 
The Shadow said:
Mine....


I can leave athleticism out of it as I consider Golf to be a sport as it at least requires a skill level, while no necessarily athleticism.

For me - bbing CANT be a sport as there is no clearly defined objective "terms" for winning...such as the most points, most runs, etc.

so what about diving? or sychronized swimming?
 
pitbullstl said:
I did more than one show holmes.......while I did not like the pageantry aspect of the sport, nor the attire, it was a necessary evil.

The homophobia is a little third gradish....eh...?

i guess i just don't derive any pleasure out of watching bb'ing, unlike other sports like football or bball. for that matter watching pl'ing or strongman doesn't thrill me either. just my opinion :)
 
Gambino said:
i guess i just don't derive any pleasure out of watching bb'ing, unlike other sports like football or bball. for that matter watching pl'ing or strongman doesn't thrill me either. just my opinion :)

I didn't watch the Olympia....


I did watch one of the best NCAA football games I have ever seen yesterday afternoon........I was more inclined to watch that, than watch my Birds get beat, yet again.
 
Are you guys arguing bb'ing versus pl'ing again?? Just watch the clip that AAP posted. That guy looks like the Pilsbury Doughboy wearing a rubberized female half top. Amazing all the insults bodybuilding gets. They are two totally different disciplines. Bodybuilding is more artistic, whereas powerlifting is more competitve.

Back to the topic at hand.

Alex Federov has got to be the most over-hyped bodybuilder ever. Looks like another case of too much mass and not enough refinement. I can't believe Ruhl slipped that far down. Looks like Cormier's heart is no longer in it.
 
The Shadow said:
Bbing cant be a sport as there is no OBJECTIVELY defined winner


Even though I agree with you that judging BB competitions is NOT objective as opinion , politics , and favoritism play a role. I am glad that ex Mr Olympias were doing the judging gas I think some of those 3 factors will be ruled out with them judging. They know what it takes and the sacrifice that is required to get into that kind of shape.

Boxing and MMA at times are also subjective as a decision may need to be rendered to figure a winner. But they are still sports
 
Anyone can shove down mass quantities of food and get fat and bloated and call themselves a powerlifter. Hell, you can be fat and walk up to someone and claim that title. No one would know the difference. What you think someone is going to whip out a squat rack in the supermarket and challenge you to back up that claim?

Bodybuilding... that's a bit different. Call yourself a bodybuilder and you best look like you practice what you preach.
 
AAP said:
Anyone can shove down mass quantities of food and get fat and bloated and call themselves a powerlifter. Hell, you can be fat and walk up to someone and claim that title. No one would know the difference. What you think someone is going to whip out a squat rack in the supermarket and challenge you to back up that claim?

Bodybuilding... that's a bit different. Call yourself a bodybuilder and you best look like you practice what you preach.


BBers eat massive amounts of food too. You have to have a base to build muscle before you can sculpt it.

To agree with Shadow, atleast in powerlifting there is an objective way of determining who's better. By looking at the numbers.

But I consider both sports as there is "competition" between individuals or teams of individuals
 
AAP said:
Anyone can shove down mass quantities of food and get fat and bloated and call themselves a powerlifter. Hell, you can be fat and walk up to someone and claim that title. No one would know the difference. What you think someone is going to whip out a squat rack in the supermarket and challenge you to back up that claim?

Bodybuilding... that's a bit different. Call yourself a bodybuilder and you best look like you practice what you preach.
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to AAP again.
 
It's funny that most of these arguments are often started by powerlifters. I haven't ever heard an argument started by a bodybuilder putting down powerlifting. Ironic, isn't it?

The term "sport" is thrown around so loosely that anything can be considered a sport. Are hot dog eating contests sports? There are clearly defined terms of winning (most amount of hot dogs in a specified time) and skill required (takes a lot of skill to jam down all those hots dogs).

Bodybuilding, whether sport or not, is an art form that must be respected. The canvas is the human body, which is molded into a masterpiece of beauty through a shitload of discipline and hard work. Love it or hate it, you gotta respect it.
 
wutangnomo said:
It's funny that most of these arguments are often started by powerlifters. I haven't ever heard an argument started by a bodybuilder putting down powerlifting. Ironic, isn't it?

The term "sport" is thrown around so loosely that anything can be considered a sport. Are hot dog eating contests sports? There are clearly defined terms of winning (most amount of hot dogs in a specified time) and skill required (takes a lot of skill to jam down all those hots dogs).

Bodybuilding, whether sport or not, is an art form that must be respected. The canvas is the human body, which is molded into a masterpiece of beauty through a shitload of discipline and hard work. Love it or hate it, you gotta respect it.

If you have physically eat the hotdogs and best others in physically eating hotdoes in terms of number or time to do it, then yes it can be considered sport.
 
wutangnomo said:
It's funny that most of these arguments are often started by powerlifters. I haven't ever heard an argument started by a bodybuilder putting down powerlifting. Ironic, isn't it?

The term "sport" is thrown around so loosely that anything can be considered a sport. Are hot dog eating contests sports? There are clearly defined terms of winning (most amount of hot dogs in a specified time) and skill required (takes a lot of skill to jam down all those hots dogs).

Bodybuilding, whether sport or not, is an art form that must be respected. The canvas is the human body, which is molded into a masterpiece of beauty through a shitload of discipline and hard work. Love it or hate it, you gotta respect it.

funny i don't think pl'ing was mentioned by anybody except AAP...no one has addressed my original beef that the same mofo wins it yr in and out...how do you expect to attract viewers when everyone knows the outcome? think about it bor, no other sport has their been a 8 time in a row champion, let alone a history of the same dude winning every time. this has nothing to do with pl'ing...
 
I don't like Ronnie as a BB'er as much as some others but he is in a league of his own on most days. I don't think the powers that be will let him lose no matter what. Jay deserves a Sandow too. Overall I think Mariusz Pudzianowski is probably the one I respect most in the iron game - bb'ing, PL'ing, strongman.
 
Guts should be am auto dq its insane that Coleman keeps winning considering he hasn't looked GREAT in years, yea he's a monster and a specimen but still its not aesthetically pleasing in the slightest YUCK.

Ive not even bothered following all this shit the last 3 years, I only check the results hoping for Coleman to be knocked off for once
 
Lee Priest is the man, BBing needs more demigods like him. Then maybe the sport would be better. Endless possibilities: KFC commercials, etc.

That's all I wanted to contribute to this thread. Carry on.




:cow:
 
Gambino said:
funny i don't think pl'ing was mentioned by anybody except AAP...no one has addressed my original beef that the same mofo wins it yr in and out...how do you expect to attract viewers when everyone knows the outcome? think about it bor, no other sport has their been a 8 time in a row champion, let alone a history of the same dude winning every time. this has nothing to do with pl'ing...


How can there be a different winner every year? Once a man is on top he isn't going to give up until he has to, and people can't just gain 20lbs of muscle at will to rise above him. Building muscle takes a long time so it makes sense that the same person is winner for 5+ years. It's not like 2nd place can just decide to step it up....cutler is already going as hard as possible....there is a limit on how fast a person can build muscle....that is the reason why the standings don't change much....
 
chewyxrage said:
How can there be a different winner every year? Once a man is on top he isn't going to give up until he has to, and people can't just gain 20lbs of muscle at will to rise above him. Building muscle takes a long time so it makes sense that the same person is winner for 5+ years. It's not like 2nd place can just decide to step it up....cutler is already going as hard as possible....there is a limit on how fast a person can build muscle....that is the reason why the standings don't change much....

and that is one of the reasons why bb'ing will never get props in the sporting community
 
AAP said:
From Flexonline - which went out of their way to make Ronnie look like shit in the pictures. I dont' get it. Their pictures were so obviously misleading. The only reason I can think of is that they were trying a bait and switch type marketing ploy to still get people to sign up for the PPV.

Eighth Wonder of the World


Written by: Michael Berg, Flex Executive Editor

For the first time since Ronnie Coleman won the Sandow in 1998, a competitor caught him from behind. That man was Jay Cutler, and whenever the two went mano-a-mano in a back pose, it was evident how far Cutler had come in his development. In a feat many thought would never happen, Coleman, he of the freaky mass and stunning detail in his lats, mid-back and traps, was far from a shoo-in on this pose.
However, in the end, even that wasn't enough to stop the reign of Coleman, who made it eight in a row, tying him with Lee Haney for the Olympia record.

All told, this Olympia had more than its share of trauma, drama and controversy. From the opening segment of the night show, when powerlifter Gene Rychalik took the stage to attempt to break his all-time bench press record and press 1,015 pounds, only to end up broken himself under the bar as his try went awry, it was a crazy night. There were disgruntled athletes backstage, crying foul over the supposed "belly ban" that didn't seem to alter the scores in any way. You had wasp-waisted David Henry and Kris Dim out of the top 10, the most overlooked bodybuilder in the show in Darrem Charles crashing into ninth (when he just as easily could have been as high as third), and you had a top six where again the mass monsters dominated - mighty Dennis James in sixth, massive Gunter Schlierkamp in fourth, and of course Coleman and Cutler in the top two spots. (Sandwiched in between were a very happy Victor Martinez in fifth and Gustavo Badell notching third for the second year in a row, an accomplishment he should be truly proud of.)

As part of the proceedings, the second-ever Challenge Round was held, as judged by former Mr. Olympias Larry Scott, Sergio Oliva, Frank Zane, Samir Bannout and Dorian Yates. A few technical difficulties marred the round, but in the end Gustavo Badell emerged the victor, $25,000 richer for the effort. Interestingly, during the round (which didn't count in the overall standings), Coleman lost a few poses, including a side triceps to both Cutler and Badell, and the tiebreaker, which was a general pose-off between him and Badell.

Other notable finishes on this 40th anniversary of the greatest show in bodybuilding include Jordan's Mustafa Mohammad breaking into the top 10, Branch Warren maintaining his roll - he won two pro shows in the past month - by coming in eighth, and Melvin Anthony, who clocked in at No. 7. California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger also made an appearance, stepping on stage with Joe Weider, who was honored with a standing ovation after the two spoke to the capacity crowd.

While the show ended much like seven others before it - Coleman flat on the floor as the announcement of second place was made, overwhelmed by his moment of triumph - the chain of events to that point was anything but ordinary. This was a Mr. Olympia that - for better or worse - will be talked about in bodybuilding circles for a long time.

2005 MR. OLYMPIA RESULTS

1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Jay Cutler
3 Gustavo Badell
4 Gunther Schlierkamp
5 Victor Martinez
6 Dennis James
7 Melvin Anthony
8 Branch Warren
9 Darrem Charles
10 Mustafa Mohammad
11 Johnnie Jackson
12 George Farah
13 Chris Cormier
14 David Henry
15 Markus Ruhl
Top six qualify for 2006 Mr. Olympia

Did not make top 15

Kris Dim
Alexander Fedorov
Craig Richardson
Ronny Rockell
Mike Sheridan
Quincy Taylor



Now on a side note... I am SOOOO glad Cormier bombed out. I only wish Priest was still in so he could kick sand in his face. Now we will have to listen to Cormier for 12 months complain about it in MD magazine.
Badell got third, which I hate. For no other reason than that fucked up side chest pose he does. Bitch needs to learn to pose.
Vic M place ahead of Darrem. WTF? Darrem was shafted horribly.
Alex Fed did worse than anyone ever imagined. The Weider hype machine has an egg on their face now, you can bet you won't be seeing Alex on anymore covers anytime soon. But at least his unibrow was symmetrical.
Johnnie Jackson should have placed ahead of Dennis James. Dennis was bloated like a whale, but Johnnie was dead on the money.

All in all, it did nothing but reenforce what I already believed... that the Arnold Classic is a much better contest.

And I agree for the main reason being that Arnie believes in total muscle development and aesthetics......Coleman would never win with his 20,000- months-pregnant-looking fatass gh gut.....and until he gets rid of it, he sucks and it proves how rediculous bodybuilding has become when they give a trophy to him.
 
I watched the PPV and have the following comments:
- Best man won under today's judging standards.
- Gunther was the best in total appearance and personality.
- I like a sore loser. That was fun.
- Thank goodness HHH was there and knew how to deal with production problems.
- The older champs are a mess. Whew! What happened?
- Joe Weider looks like a stroke victim, not someone who had a back operation.
- Ron Coleman was a treat thanking Jesus in front of all the Jewish sponsors.
- What happended to the rowdy audiences that used to hurl insults at the stage and boo?

All in all ... a lot of fun.

Oh ... and now I know all the supplements to take so I can look like the Pros! Where is my nearest GNC store?
 
Gambino said:
funny i don't think pl'ing was mentioned by anybody except AAP...no one has addressed my original beef that the same mofo wins it yr in and out...how do you expect to attract viewers when everyone knows the outcome? think about it bor, no other sport has their been a 8 time in a row champion, let alone a history of the same dude winning every time. this has nothing to do with pl'ing...


Boston Celtics :'59-'66 NBA Champs. :stpatty:

And the Bulls would've won 8 consecutive too had Jordan not retired.
 
Off topic and directed at Hansel Stevie Ray Vaughan is the best guitarist to ever live and it still makes me teary eyed to here his rendition of Littlewing

THe differance here to the person who said others can't just gain 20 lbs and beat the champ is that Coleman looks like utter shit especially considering how good he once looked, he hasn't gotten better only ridiculously worse in aesthetic appearance so why should he win?
 
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