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The Importance Of Steroids

Nelson Montana said:
CO B-man said:
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Bro, no need to tell me about the importance of food. But I will guarantee you ...take 50 people and train them hard and have them eat a normal american diet...and take another 50 people and have them eat a pristine bodybuilding diet and not train. See who makes the most progress. 50 times out of 50 it will be the first group.

I think we all agree it goes both ways.
Either one is a waste w/out the other.
I still rank diet as number 1 followed by training and gear is a distant third.
 
solidspine said:
CO B-man


Did you read that Anthony Connors aka Anthony Roberts is being sued,

For slander and mistruths, regarding products and knowledge?



Hey Tony didn’t you do time once before, for something petty?

Or was it with little boys, I don’t remember you never replied to my questions, but I can guarantee you that the boys in Louisiana prison system will love you.

It's Libel actually. Slander is spoken. As far as accusing me of other stuff, that's not called for.

And no, I didn't ever do time previously. I was brought to court in Hoboken for Assault, but it never went to trial after my first appearance.
 
Nelson Montana said:
CO B-man said:
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Bro, no need to tell me about the importance of food. But I will guarantee you ...take 50 people and train them hard and have them eat a normal american diet...and take another 50 people and have them eat a pristine bodybuilding diet and not train. See who makes the most progress. 50 times out of 50 it will be the first group.
I see what you are saying. but that just brings us to why we are all researching better ways. We are all trying to figure out the best foods, training and juice to use for our own bodies. without each we are missing out on opportunities without excersizing in the least bit you obviously will not be tearing down your muscles so your muscles will not need rebuilding and therefore you definately will not get jacked. But also think of this example. Look at the german slaves in Auschvitz <--- Spelling? THey had there asses worked off and were not fed. They starved them to death and there muscles wasted without food. That is a case where they worked hard and lost muscle due to lack of food!
 
CO B-man said:
I see what you are saying. but that just brings us to why we are all researching better ways. We are all trying to figure out the best foods, training and juice to use for our own bodies. without each we are missing out on opportunities without excersizing in the least bit you obviously will not be tearing down your muscles so your muscles will not need rebuilding and therefore you definately will not get jacked. But also think of this example. Look at the german slaves in Auschvitz <--- Spelling? THey had there asses worked off and were not fed. They starved them to death and there muscles wasted without food. That is a case where they worked hard and lost muscle due to lack of food!

Not really. First off, they were starved. I didn't say a LACK of food, I said "a typical american diet." Also, they weren't worked in a resistance training manner. It was more low level labor for hours on end. Sorry bro, can't use that one.

Again, no one is defending a bad diet. I'm the first guy to say that guys who want to grow anren't eating enough.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Not really. First off, they were starved. I didn't say a LACK of food, I said "a typical american diet." Also, they weren't worked in a resistance training manner. It was more low level labor for hours on end. Sorry bro, can't use that one.

Again, no one is defending a bad diet. I'm the first guy to say that guys who want to grow anren't eating enough.
Why didn't you just say that 12 pages ago and maybe we could have avoided some of this fiasco?
 
Tweakle said:
So we've established the Pros have nothing to offer any of us regular people because they're genetically on a different plane.

So I take it that means no more lectures about how IFBB pro Mr So-And-So does 5mg dbol a day and is 300lbs ripped, and those of us who use more AAS than he claims to use are idiots, lazy and drug abusers.

Because if he isn't the same species as the rest of us, with 4 x the AR's of a regular guy, with no SHBG or myostatin in his system obviously doesn't need to use much in the way of gear, or train hard. Or eat much to grow on.


Well, yes and no.

You have to seperate the two types of "superior" genetics. The pros are pretty much inclined to be genetically dispositioned to respond to :

Training Stimilus - Vince Taylor, Flex Wheeler, Lee Priest, Bob Paris, Labrada, Toney Freeman

or

Chemical Stimilus - Tom Prince comes to mind and I better not name anymore or BRR may get one of those letters again like he did from T. A. that time I outed his ass on some things.

Now some people possess both of these qualities in abundance, Levrone as an example. Which is why he could take 8 months off and come back, add 30lbs of muscle and place in the Top 5 of the O. However, these individuals are rare. You are generally either one type or the other, or worse.... neither.

While not everyone can be a pro, that doesn't mean you can't pick up a few tricks from them. The most common mistake I see people making is mimicing what the pros do and not understanding why they do. You see in the gym and on DVDs pros doing very short rep ranges. I see 180lb tweenagers in the gym doing 5 inch range of movement reps all the time. Why? Because pros do it. Well pros do it because the larger a muscle gets, the more reduced the range is. My arm at 20 inches has a shorter range of movement than someone with 17 inches.

As I stated before, the key to MAXIMIZING your physique whether you can be a pro BBer or just a buffed up beach hero, is finding out what works for you. That is what the pros did. Whether "what works" means training wise or chemical wise, is individually dependent. Your arms may respond to a 5x5 training style, your legs might need volume training with high reps, you may need drop set style training on every set for shoulders, Your chest may only respond to low reps, You may need to train arms twice a week, you may need to train chest once every 9 days, etc... it is important to break your body up into sections and individual groups and figure out what it takes. 99% of the people simply don't do this.

Pros are not experts. Usually pros are having someone else tell them what to take. If they were experts, why would Charles Glass be in demand by them?

There is one pro - from Atlanta - that when he was trying to get his pro card at the Nationals back in 2001 he decided to use clen for the first time. Someone told him that Albuteral (sp? asthma inhaler) was the same thing and did the same thing to the body, which was help shed fat and lean up. So the Nationals came and went and he placed terrible. He said that using clen/albuteral made no difference at all to him. Come to find out, this dude was spraying it directly on his stomach thinking it was suppose to be applied that way. He was shocked when we told him he was suppose to inhale it. His answer "But I ain't got no asthma." :rolleyes:

Pros are not experts by any means. They are simply people who have taken time or luckily stumbled upon their magic combo that only they respond to. Once you find this method for you, you will then truly see what limitations Mother Nature placed upon you. You can reach your potential. But most people never even come close to discovering it.
 
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