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The Gay Content in Movies Gets Really Old

The Nature Boy said:
six feet under is a great fucking show, with or without the homosexuality.

I agree. To be honest, the gay content bothered me in the beginning, but now I view the gay characters as just characters, with their own relationship issues.
 
ZenMachine said:


I agree. To be honest, the gay content bothered me in the beginning, but now I view the gay characters as just characters, with their own relationship issues.

I agree. it's a quirky show, and that adds to the quirkyness. I do flinch when they show kissing..... but that's not often.

if you want to watch bland television, then maybe disney is the way to go. but life is full of crazy shit, and to an extent art imitates life.
 
Curling, I've said it before, I'll say it again.
The problem you're having is you read a Bible translated in the 1700's by monks with limited understanding of Greek and Aramaic. We've learned a lot more in the past 30 years (with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls) about how to translate Greek. Many of the "gay bashing" passages in the Bible actually refered to 1.male prostitution, 2. rape of the vanquished by the victor, and 3.cultic ritual sex practices.
Get a recent copy of the New Oxford University translation of the Bible, fourth edition.
It's much more gay neutral. There are lots of learned Christian scholars that argue the Bible is not anywhere near as gay bashing as you think.
Think of it, the 10 commandments mentions "do not lie" and "do not covet your neighbors posessions" and "honor your parents" but doesn't say a thing about homosexuality. Even if it is a sin (just for arguments sake), JUST HOW IMPORTANT COULD IT BE? It certainly didn't make the top ten.
 
ZenMachine said:


The asshole thing was over the line, I don't know you well enough to think you are an asshole, so I apologize.


Well I appreciate that.

All of the questions you pose can easily be turned around the other way as well. Why do people have to keep their sexuality in the closet? You don't.

Well not in the closet but I do keep it in the bedroom. I don't talk about doing my wife with other people or flaunt hetrosexuality in parades either.

Your opinion on the subject is influenced by your belief that biblically their is something wrong with it. Granted it has been a few years since I have read the bible, but I am pretty sure it is against you deciding who is or isn't worthy of salvation. "love your enemy", "judge not lest ye be judged" and all of that.[/quote]

Where did I say they were not worthy of salvation? Show me and I will eat those words. bwt We are all not worthy of salvation it is only by the Grace of God that one can be saved. Heck we are all sinners the difference is I admit when I sin and homosexuals that act on their urges don't think it is wrong. See the difference?


I am not gay

I am very glad to here that.

and sometimes I see things that bother me too, but I chose not to watch, whether it be in a movie or outside on the street. But just because I don't like something doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

But you are entitled to your opinion on what you think is right or wrong and I am just giving my opinion. But if you keep your mouth shut on stuff like that instead of voiceing it then you are doing an injustice to yourself. There is also a verse in the Bible that warns countries against condoning homosexuality and premiscuous living.

You live in a small world Curling, one that apparently needs to function on your set of rules and values (no gays in the movies, loud tailpipes, and driving where you want). It just doesn't work that way.

We all have our own set of values and I live by mine just as I am sure you live by yours. I am sorry if my loud tailpipes offend you but they help cars notice me which is alot more offensive when they hit ya then listening to loud pipes. There were no signs posted saying no tresspassing and yes gay behavior has no place in straight movies or they just place a gay rating like ylifter suggested and I wouldn't watch those movies.
 
curling said:


We all have our own set of values and I live by mine just as I am sure you live by yours. I am sorry if my loud tailpipes offend you but they help cars notice me which is alot more offensive when they hit ya then listening to loud pipes. There were no signs posted saying no tresspassing and yes gay behavior has no place in straight movies or they just place a gay rating like ylifter suggested and I wouldn't watch those movies.

I will try to address what is the crux of the discussion. We do all have our own set of values, the problem is curling, you judge other peoples lives by your set of values. You make the assumption that your value set is higher or superior to others. It isn't, it is just different.

You are condemning people for living their life a certain way, when you rebel at someone doing the samething to you.
 
Ok I am up for it

curling said:


This is a homosexual ploy too. If you ever condemn homosexuality they turn it around on you and say you must have latent homosexual tendencies this is such bullshit. I am not saying you came up with this frackal you are just parroting what you have been taught by the homos.

You're right, I taught him that myself.

I will show you just how assinine this idea is. Lets say you have someone that hates heroin usage and lobbys against it does that person have latent heroin tendencies. An extreme example what about the KKK do you think they a secret desire to be black?

Right again, I am a latent E addict.

All that type thinking came from the gay lobby to try to make homophobes seem like the people with the mental problem when just 20 years ago homosexuality was considered a pervesian that needed to be treated. Our world has gone crazy.

I do not consider myself a pervert. I am a perfectly normal guy with natural urges to fuck everything that bends over. Since you are a guy, you shouldn't be any different, you horn dog.

And just to verify no I am not gay. I do not find men attractive. Women on the other hand are awesome. They are soft, pretty, smell good and more to offer than men do. For the life me I can't see how any guy can find a guy more attractive than a woman. I actually feel sorry for them thinking that way they are missing out not digging the ladies. To be honest if I was a girl I would probably be a lesbian.

Lesbians the world over are rejoicing.
 
Originally posted by

You are condemning people for living their life a certain way, when you rebel at someone doing the samething to you. [/B]


I don't understand what you mean here?
 
curling said:


I don't understand what you mean here?

Sorry I will clarify. You condemn people for living their life a certain way.

But when someone wants to put their non motorcycle riding, noise making, randomly stopping on the the roadway lifestyle on you, it is worthy of a new post bitching about it.
 
curling said:
There were no signs posted saying no tresspassing and yes gay behavior has no place in straight movies or they just place a gay rating like ylifter suggested and I wouldn't watch those movies.

gee curling, and why do you think that you wouldn't watch gay movies? Are you afraid that the Almighty Curling might be reduced to, oh, someone that's actually somewhat intelligent on homosexuality? What's so "scary" about watching these movies curling? You have nothing to fear but fear itself curling. Are you afraid of stepping out of your hetero comfort zone and perhaps actually connecting with a homo's feelings? What is it curling? What drives this need to STAY AWAY? What has happened in your past that causes this behaviour? Surely you don't believe that god has somehow created you better than a homosexual? Surely you don't believe that you're somehow connected to a higher being MORE SO than the average Joe? So tell us, curling, what part of the Bible allows you to disconnect yourself from others? Enquiring minds want to know curling. Hurry . . . the mere mortals are waiting . . .
 
Why don't I enjoy watching it? Because to me it is perverted. You can not reproduce so therefor we were created to have sex with the same partner. I personally find it repulsive. What do you find perverted if anything. Would watching man rape entaining hopefully not well any homo act is disgusting to me. So why would I want to watch it? Why waste my time on something I don't like. You make no sense whatsoever.

And no I am not better than the homo. I sin just like everyone else. But at least I can admit that what I do wrong is a sin most homos won't.
 
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