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"The fat just melted off with Var" BS!

cobra108

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I have read a number of guys talking $hite about fat melting off with var.
With all due respect, how do you define "fat melting off" are we talking 5lbs, 20lbs or what? I'm picturing a deadly six pack and real leaness when somebody says "fat melted off"

So I'm not calling BS but I guess I just need more specifics with this whole melting off thing.

Or were you a fat slob who lost 15 lbs and nobody noticed?
;)

thanks
 
its not a miracle drug it needs help on your part
 
cobra108 said:
I have read a number of guys talking $hite about fat melting off with var.
With all due respect, how do you define "fat melting off" are we talking 5lbs, 20lbs or what? I'm picturing a deadly six pack and real leaness when somebody says "fat melted off"

So I'm not calling BS but I guess I just need more specifics with this whole melting off thing.

Or were you a fat slob who lost 15 lbs and nobody noticed?
;)

thanks


As a heavy var user, I must agree, does nothing like that. Now you can do cardio all day long, eat very little calories, take some var and you will retain your muscle mass, var itself does NOT burn fat, nothing does for that matter but diet and exercise
 
i hear ya bro! its like these drugs are being sold and marketed. reminds me of the real world like 4 page hydroxycyt ads in the muscle mags
 
You have to work on it.
ASS+Low calories (very low fat)+high protein+working out: Fat loss.
Just like naturally.
Only difference would be that you will lose very little muscle. In fact, you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time (with AAS).
 
OK Bro's that's more like it. In fairness maybe some of these guys were trying to say "with my diet and cardio and var, the fat melted off" who knows but shit some of them make it sound like they just took AAS then went to 12 weeks of tae-bo and got shredded.
 
there was a guy on here a while back that claimed tren is a fat burner, no aas is a fat burner, some just allow muscle growth without sufficient calories
 
bruce410 said:
there was a guy on here a while back that claimed tren is a fat burner, no aas is a fat burner, some just allow muscle growth without sufficient calories


Yea I have read alot on that one. It does appear that Tren can help reduce fat. With that said, you are correct Tren is not a fat burner, nor is any other AAS, however Tren raises your temp and you know what that means, it has a thermogenic side affect that could cause increased metabolism therefore maybe help lean you out. With tren while it may work to burn some fat, I would still call it a side effect vs. and effect from the drug.
 
indy69camaro said:
AMEN, that's why I speak on what I know and have seen, not what I can sell :)

AMEN!!!

Tons of misinformation here all for the almighty dollar. I feel for the young inexperienced people who are making decisions concerning their safety and freedom based on this bad info.
 
Tren is an exception. I mean they give tren to cattle to lean them out and add muscle to them. All cattle do all day is eat. Theres not doing any cardio lol. You may say well humans aren't cattle and thats true, but the drug effects them in the same way.
 
I've run var a lot, and while its a very solid drug, never noticed any added fat loss benefits
 
I dont remember the last time I read a Var thread that stated var cutted fat off. Let alone enough to make a blanket statement that "ton of misinformation floating around" You got some links to some threads?
 
why would anyone claim that? it's a very mild steroid and not particullarly androgenic...

I found tren at 150mg ed helped keep me lean(ish) with a serious calorie excess, but it's not magical. I suspect the constant sweating and raised body temp from that dose mean I was burning an extra 100-200 cals a day, but that just speculative.
 
indy69camaro said:
Yea I have read alot on that one. It does appear that Tren can help reduce fat. With that said, you are correct Tren is not a fat burner, nor is any other AAS, however Tren raises your temp and you know what that means, it has a thermogenic side affect that could cause increased metabolism therefore maybe help lean you out. With tren while it may work to burn some fat, I would still call it a side effect vs. and effect from the drug.



Bingo! I 'm on it for the first time and the thermo effect i have noticed a slight fat loss in my midsection.
RADAR
 
Tren was designed specifically to raise "feed efficiency" in cattle. i.e. That means the cows eat less food, and still grow to slaughter weight. I would imagine that there is some sort of "nutrient partitioning" effect that could account for some of the perceived cutting power of Tren.
 
Perhaps this discussion about fat loss would be more productive if we discussed using Winstrol with diet and eercise
 
If I'm on track... while it may not affect fat mass, the increase in muscle will bring the fat % down.

And what happened to the saying nothing burns fat better than muscle ;o
 
i heard this the other day.... a guy looking for 2.5 mgs var tabs.... i go " why lose does u need to have at least 16/ day?
he goes no. running it low like 10 mgs in my pct, it will help me keep my gains.. the thing with anavar is that its extremely dangerous to your liver and you need excessive high amounts to get any anabolic activity from it..... lol!
 
sweed said:
i heard this the other day.... a guy looking for 2.5 mgs var tabs.... i go " why lose does u need to have at least 16/ day?
he goes no. running it low like 10 mgs in my pct, it will help me keep my gains.. the thing with anavar is that its extremely dangerous to your liver and you need excessive high amounts to get any anabolic activity from it..... lol!


Did I read that right that YOU said it was dangeroudly high to your liver or did "he" say that?
 
I have certainly noticed on a recent cutter with var that it has helped me shed lbs off the waistline earlier as that is ALWAYS the last place to reduce for me. It's not magical by any means but it was a VERY significant shift in a fat loss pattern which I wasn't expecting to see.........
 
marshallmadman said:
Tren was designed specifically to raise "feed efficiency" in cattle. i.e. That means the cows eat less food, and still grow to slaughter weight. I would imagine that there is some sort of "nutrient partitioning" effect that could account for some of the perceived cutting power of Tren.

That's exactly what it does bro. And that's the reason they give it to cattle. They want lean and heavy cattle.
 
very good point, yes muscle is the best fat burner that's why lifting is way better than just doing cardio.

kraze said:
If I'm on track... while it may not affect fat mass, the increase in muscle will bring the fat % down.

And what happened to the saying nothing burns fat better than muscle ;o
 
Big Ian said:
I have certainly noticed on a recent cutter with var that it has helped me shed lbs off the waistline earlier as that is ALWAYS the last place to reduce for me. It's not magical by any means but it was a VERY significant shift in a fat loss pattern which I wasn't expecting to see.........

I agree 100%, from first hand experience :) In fact, if you do a search on var (if you have the capability ;) ), it is known for that.
 
you said "shed lbs"
so how many pounds are we talking about?
what was your weight and body fat% before and after the var?



Big Ian said:
I have certainly noticed on a recent cutter with var that it has helped me shed lbs off the waistline earlier as that is ALWAYS the last place to reduce for me. It's not magical by any means but it was a VERY significant shift in a fat loss pattern which I wasn't expecting to see.........
 
The studies on men that lost fat when adding testosterone were not done on weight training men. They are done on sedentary men of advanced age. And the one about anavar was done on obese men with an average age of 56.
So maybe I should have said Steroids have no affect on your fat mass unless you're obese and don't train. Then they will help tremendously.
 
LoneTree said:
You have to work on it.
ASS+Low calories (very low fat)+high protein+working out: Fat loss.
Just like naturally.
Only difference would be that you will lose very little muscle. In fact, you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time (with AAS).


Hell yeah. that what im talking about. nothing like a little ASS and low calories for fat loss. i personally like to hit the ASS extra hard..

BGI
 
I have done several cycles on var only time I have ever seen the fat melt off me is now but it ain't the var doing it is the hour to two hours of cardio I do a day plus tight diet.
 
cobra108 said:
you said "shed lbs"
so how many pounds are we talking about?
what was your weight and body fat% before and after the var?

Honestly didn't take any BF measurements, never have, I'm mainly going on the mirror/tape measure/scales. On 4 weeks of Var alone I dropped about 2.25 inches off the waistline (unheard of for me in the first weeks of dieting, waist has ALWAYS been last to reduce at any pace on any cutter I've ever done & my diet was no different to previous cutters), abs becoming visible for the first time in a long time & only dropped 5lbs (233 to 228lbs) so lost a good amount of fat (if I was to guess about 3-4%?)& gained some muscle aswell (although maybe some of that was increased creatine storage).

I'm not a newbie, only on this particular board. I've been cycling for approx 8 years (training for 11) so I know my body & what works for it & in dieting conditions I've just found Var definitely does! People respond to different drugs in different ways & Var (if I can afford it) will be an integral part of any cutter I do in the future & I could care less if anyone agreed with me on the results coz I'm not trying to sell anything!

Oh & I did try Var once at the end of a bulk cycle btw & I really wasn't impressed with it but using the same tabs that I had left over from that cycle I've been pretty damn impressed at what it's done in dieting conditions when I wasn't expecting it at all! :)

Rant over :p
 
If you believe the hype you could win the Olympia on just Anavar and B-12 .
 
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