The END of ALL Cycle Problems!!!

[needtogetaas]

Just wanna say FUCKING SWEET. Thanks alot for the free plat that was awesome. Now i jst got this plat and dont wanna make any problems but that time nelson and tical i think it was argued over the use of clomid/nolva you "guys" banned him. Honestly it was a "heated" argument but i dont think anybody was ever out of line they both expressed their feelings and opinions excellently it was like a well thought out debate. For me it was so interesting as i always thought nolva/clomid was okay then came along your products then people like them. So that debate helped bring points out the products in general. The public could of decided for himself i dont think it solicited a ban. Once again my opinion so i cant get ban

See how things get misunderstood bro. I know the thread you were talking about that you were involved in. And in that thread tical was never banned. He had a problem logging into his account. I contacted him and I fixed the problem for him. But the second he had a problem the first thing he did was create alter and make false accusations much like a few people in that thread did. Rather then ask me or a mod what happen???? Unless it says "banned" under your name then you were not banned you are just having account trouble. NOw that was in that one thread. But tical clearly had a stick up his ass and a vendetta against nelson. His anger got the best of him and his anger for nelson spilled over and got derected at the wrong person..ME!!!

So Tical and Nelson where Arguing in Yet another thread. Only this time Tical decided he was going to attack me too. And by attack I dont mean simple disagree or have a opposing opinion.
No if were the case he would still be here today. NO Tical out right attacked me and acted like a child!

see were things get mixed up... I deleted some post made by tical in which he called me some pretty fucked up things. He attacked me personally. You see the difference now? He was not banned for having a difference of opinion he was banned for speaking to the ext elite mod of this site with disrespect, getting dirty and personal and calling me names. Did I call him names? Did I accuse him of nasty things? NO I spoke to him like I do everyone else. With respect and Keeping childish name calling out of it. Tical lacked the ability to do this so he was sent on his way.

You know had he just been calling nelson some names and attacking him I mite have even overlooked it (even though I should not). But he went the extra mile and attacked me.
But now you can see how some things get misunderstood and rumors get started. This is why another one of our rules around here is not to openly question the mods when doing there jobs. Or to accuse them of bull shit... Because truthfully 9 times out of 10 members have no clue what is really going on. They see what they think they see and then blab off at the month about it..
Well I am sorry but we dont ban people just for having an opposing opinion around here and never ever will.

However at the same time we run a clean site. As clean as we can anyway and free from childish bullshit. I think we can all agree that ef is one of the best and most flame free places to come and learn. Newbs and others can ask questions with out having to worry about getting flamed and called names for it. We can all learn and share about here without having to defend our selfs against some fuck tard keyboard comando whi thinks he knows it all and feels the need to attack everyone for no reason at all. This forum is clean, friendly, inviting, and free of most of the bullshit and this is the way we intend to keep it..

So by all means oppose all you want. Debate all you want, and disagree till the cows come home. But the second you make it personal and start attacking others ( I dont give a fuck who it is) and I catch you doing it I am going to send you packing. We act like grown adults around here not like little teen age kids. You want to act like that then go check out bb.com you will fit right in over there. Not on ef though!!!

So as I said before. No one has ever been band for disagreeing with a sponsor or a mod or anyone. No one ever will and I dare anyone who says otherwise to name one single time this has happen... Thank you very much

 

[skaman007]

dont worry bro... this month predator nutrition is going to be making a very large order and will be carring all of our products soon. Unleashed and post cycele will be on the list.

great news..

 

[pix]

discount code????

 

[calie]

Through the years anabolic steroids were widely available, even in the U.S. After a time the U.S. FDA would classify them as prescription only but this was basically meaningless; it was only a label and anabolic steroids were still just as widely available; they were yet to be controlled substances. This would soon change; in 1988 the tide began to shift with the Anti-Drug Abuse Act, effectively putting anabolic steroids in more stringent category, one that stipulated severe legal penalties for illegal sale or possession with intent to distribute. For the first time since their inception anabolic steroid possession and distribution was considered a felony in the U.S.


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[needtogetaas]

Through the years anabolic steroids were widely available, even in the U.S. After a time the U.S. FDA would classify them as prescription only but this was basically meaningless; it was only a label and anabolic steroids were still just as widely available; they were yet to be controlled substances. This would soon change; in 1988 the tide began to shift with the Anti-Drug Abuse Act, effectively putting anabolic steroids in more stringent category, one that stipulated severe legal penalties for illegal sale or possession with intent to distribute. For the first time since their inception anabolic steroid possession and distribution was considered a felony in the U.S.


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NOw see this is when we get to ban people areound here. I like the spammer every once in a wile. Because my ban finger does get a little itchy every once in a wile and these spammers are a nice way to get a good quick banning fix.. DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You spam scumbag fucker!!!!

 

[testboi123]

Yeah, I love it when someone complains about some little bit of minutea and overlooks the big picture. It's like someone just handed you a million dollars and then complaining that a couple of the hundreds have creases in them. lol

As for some of the disagreements. Allow me to clarify.

Deca causes water retention and that's both good an bad. It's bloating, but that's a part of what makes you bigger. You take the bad with the good. And progesterone is a little harder to manage than estrogen. True, it takes a little more understanding and there are things that have come along that make it more manageable (Forma is great for that), but there can still be some libido issues -- a little more so than with other gear, from my experience.

As for tren, there are nasty sides that are not necessarily HPTA related,(sweats, anxiety, etc) and they too require a little more controlling. N2GUARD will help but I think the NEW product Lo-Proclac will be a TREMENDOUS advantage to controlling tren sides. I can't wait.

All steroids aromatize but some less than others and some guys are simply more susceptible to gyno. If that's the case high dosages of d-ball, deca and test is not the way to go. Keep the test down and use mast, or Primo. But again, a little estrogen on cycle can actually improve gains. Killing it entirely is NOT a good idea.

And yes, N2GUARD also protects kidney health . (An very overlooked concern while on cycle ).

im happy you went over that ^ I was going to say...it doesnt take care of everything like estrogen and deca, tren sides etc. good man

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

When is Lo-Prolac coming out? Was this something that was decided on to not produce? I remember it was mentioned sometime last year, and haven't heard anything since. I don't like relying on P-5-P and L-Dopa to attempt to control Prolactin.

 

[nitrousr]

Is this product available to those of us in canada? THanks

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

Is this product available to those of us in canada? THanks

I am fairly certain Nate ships all over the World. However, there might be some considerations with Canadian Customs?

Let me go check the website...

I wasn't able to find anything out, here is what the NTBM website says under their Shipping page Shipping & Returns

 

[Nelson Montana]

When is Lo-Prolac coming out? Was this something that was decided on to not produce? I remember it was mentioned sometime last year, and haven't heard anything since. I don't like relying on P-5-P and L-Dopa to attempt to control Prolactin.

LO-PROLAC got put on hold because the ingredients weren't available and we weren't going to compromise on the quality, so it went on the back burner for a while. Now we're going straight ahead and it's going to be an awesome product.