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satchboogie
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please share your HGH experiences..
iu per day..
type of hgh used.
duration of use.
results.
iu per day..
type of hgh used.
duration of use.
results.
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concordsize
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ive used about 20 kits of gh kexing and jinos. 6iu for 6 month durrations and results are always amazing. Fat loss and muscle density are the most noticable.
Goodfellow
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I ran Nutropin for 6 months at 4iu per day and didnt notice much. Perhaps it could be because of my age, 25. Not worth it in my opinion.
ed2005
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satchboogie said:
Absolutely! Only on 2iu's 5/2 of jinos and only going into my 5th week. For the first 2.5 weeks I had sides. I overcame the joint pain sides by reconstituting it with an extra 1ml of bacs water (2ml in total) and the lethargy by shooting up to an hour before training rather than the early morning recomendation. In this short time I have lost an incredible amount of BF, I reckon 8/10%, gained size and weight, muscle hardness is phenomenal and the general feeling of well-being. I actually look completely different, shape wise, and feel and see myself growing and loosing fat on a daily basis. I am not using AAS with it at this time. My diet is really clean and my training is as hard as it's been in 20 years. Remember I'm 45 this year so that may play a part as i know some younger bros don't get this. At the minute I so no reason to go over 2ius.
Cheers
Ed
I agree. The answer is age dependant. It's a great addition if you're cutting but of little use for actual "growth". Mainly because people don't use it at the doses that would cause true growth. Which for pros is 18iu/day. It's best used EOD at 8-9iu/day if you're old like Dial Tone.
[email protected]
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Most people think GH isn't worth it unless you're a national or pro level competitor. What about using receptor grade IGF-1 LR3 instead. Growth hormore itself doesn't change anything, it's just the increased IGF from it that causes the gains. Would a long sustained IGF cycle produce gains. Keep in mind this is for info. purposes, I know it would be very expensive.
satchboogie said:
WORKS GREAT, SOMATROPHIN 2.5 I.U. 5ON 2 OFF
GOT IT FROM A DR.'S OFFICE DID BLOOD WORK AND ALL ITS REAL EXSPENSIVE THAT WAY ONLY COULD AFFORD ONE MONTH, NOT SURE THOUGH THEY COMPUND IT ACCORDING TO YOUR BLOOD WORK MAYBE WHY
IT WORKS SO WELL, BEING I HAVE SOME LOVE HANDLES AND AFTER JUST 3 WEEKS WITH NO CHANGE IN DIET AT ALL MY GIRL SAID THEY DONT LOOK
AS BIG, BUT IVE BEEN SAVING TO TRY SOME JINTROPIN 4I.U. 5 ON 2 OFF
IT CAN AS A POWDER IN A VIAL I ADDED 3 ML BACTERIOSTATIC WATER, PULLED 25 IN A 1ML INSULIN NEEDLE SHOT IN MY FAT TIRE AREA. NO PAIN WORKED GREAT NOW I WANT TO TRY MORE, I'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED.
Outtlaw
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If your looking for mass increase, you need to do at least 10-15iu/day. I'd say 15. When it's prescribed to prevent body wasting the common dose is 6mg or 18iu/day. There's a reason for this (because 3-4iu wont do the job). 3-4iu is good for leaning out, but you'll just be throwing your money away if you expect to get growth out of a dose like that.krishna said:
How would I run it for bulk purposes? 15-18iu/day and I'd cycle it for 12-16wks at a time (at least 5-on-2 off). But be prepared to use slin when you run gh at those doses. And I believe its even been speculated that running high dose gh for a certain amount of time will eventually cause diabetes in a fair amount of people. Forgot where I read that, but I'll post it up if I can find it.
gymratforlife
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Ive read some were that the body canot process more than 2 ius at a time so would taking 6 ius 2 times a day for a total of 12 be wasting it?
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cbeaks
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Ulter said:
I hear differing opinions on this. I would be willing to try it at 18iu/day if I thought it would make a significant difference but I have read several studies that suggest that your body can only process a certain amount of GH and anything over 6-9iu/day is a waste. Have you tried it or know anyone that has tried it at 18iu/day for an extended period of time?
Obviously Serono didn't read those studies. They make their gh kits with dosing intructions for 18iu/day. Which would mean of course that 18iu/day is the clinical dose. Yes I know many bber's that use 18iu/day. You'd have to define extended period of time for me to answer that. Most use it for 3-4 months at a time.
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satchboogie
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gymratforlife said:
mmm...
ill be interested to see some studies backing this theory up.
Outtlaw
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Yeah, I'd like to see the study that came from too. And why would you want to take 12iu anyways? Read what I said up top. If you're using gh for mass, 15-18iu/day. You can use a lower dose if you want, but be prepared to throw your money away result wise. Gh is expensive, so trust me when I say that if 10-12iu would add mass like you need it to, then that's the dose they would prescribe it at.gymratforlife said:
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cbeaks
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Well, I guess there is only one way to find out for sure if 15-18iu/day is the optimal dose for getting huge on GH.....
gotmilk
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Ulter said:
Of course, Serono also knows that insurance companies will be forced to cover more charges if users are blowing thru their kits quickly
I was using 4 iu daily with 200 mg of enanthate/week and I was having great increases in strength and fat loss...sadly I broke my neck in a car accident into my 4th week and had to stop.
Go for it satch..
gymratforlife
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Ive been runing gh for 3 months straight at 4ius now and have ran it for 4 months before and I can tell you that 12 ius will definetly make you grow.There is an oriental guy here were I live that has done gh only for the past 4 years at around 10ius per day and he is absolutely enormous and shredded to the bone and he wasnt always that big.Thats bs that if your taking under 18ius per day your throwing it away.Lol were do you come up with this stuff?Outtlaw said:
FreakMonster
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10 IU's a day for FOUR YEARS!!! Wow must be nice to be that guy. Must be expensive as hell to do it for four straight yrs. He must get the stuff for free.gymratforlife said:Ive been runing gh for 3 months straight at 4ius now and have ran it for 4 months before and I can tell you that 12 ius will definetly make you grow.There is an oriental guy here were I live that has done gh only for the past 4 years at around 10ius per day and he is absolutely enormous and shredded to the bone and he wasnt always that big.Thats bs that if your taking under 18ius per day your throwing it away.Lol were do you come up with this stuff?
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satchboogie
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i talk with a few competing pros..
and not some 210 pound dudes..
heavy 250 pound fuckers..
consensus is 20i.u per day for mass.
anything less, they claim, is useless.
and not some 210 pound dudes..
heavy 250 pound fuckers..
consensus is 20i.u per day for mass.
anything less, they claim, is useless.
gymratforlife
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Most of them want to make steroid like gains on gh too.If you do it for long enough you will get just as good a gains with out so many sides.At 3.33 ius a day after 2 months on jinotropin my whole hand would go numb and would have no feeling at the tip of my fingers.Why would any1 want to fuck themselfs up so bad IF they werent going to go pro? There is a lot of benefits from gh other than mass.I have ran it myself this time at 4ius per day along with my cycle and have gained around 14lbs in 7 weeks of bulking with minimal fat gains if any,of course I have also ran insulin at 14ius a day pwo but if I ran the slin with out the gh id be a fat whale.So right there its worth it.To say your throwing it away by using under 20 ius a day its crazy.I mean if you want to get huge GH is not for you,why pay so much to bulk on gh when you have Test,deca,anadrol,dbol and the list goes on.satchboogie said:
Outtlaw
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I said 15iu would be a sufficient dose (18iu would be better). You may get results at 10iu, but you wont get the most out of it. It's like if 400mg/wk was the optimal dose for eq, but you choose to run it at 2-300mg/wk. Sure you'll see something, but your selling yourself short. I'd rather get the most for my money, but that's me. Do what you want, Im only trying to help.gymratforlife said:Ive been runing gh for 3 months straight at 4ius now and have ran it for 4 months before and I can tell you that 12 ius will definetly make you grow.There is an oriental guy here were I live that has done gh only for the past 4 years at around 10ius per day and he is absolutely enormous and shredded to the bone and he wasnt always that big.Thats bs that if your taking under 18ius per day your throwing it away.Lol were do you come up with this stuff?
gymratforlife
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it would not be in my best interest to ever run it above 12 ius.Either cost wise or health wise.GH will fuck you up worse than any aas will at high dosages,and who could afford 18ius a day?I know I definetly couldnt,not for a whole year.Outtlaw said:
bicepts101
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this is the reason GH is to be taken while on cycle to magnify results of the steroids begin used. GH on its own in lower doses may be good for fat loss but involved with anabolics im sure the gh add magnitude to the end results.....
alltraps has a good personal example. he took 2g of test on something else gain *** amount of weight....did a cycle later down the road with only 800mg test basically half of what he used with 6iu of gh i beleive and made the same gains if not better. ill find the exact post and repost it
alltraps has a good personal example. he took 2g of test on something else gain *** amount of weight....did a cycle later down the road with only 800mg test basically half of what he used with 6iu of gh i beleive and made the same gains if not better. ill find the exact post and repost it
Outtlaw
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We're not talking about other uses for gh. We're talking about bulk purposes. If you just want to lean out, then 3-6iu/day is fine. But that's not gonna cut it for bulking.gymratforlife said:
I wouldnt recommend gh unless you're quite advanced. It's too expensive and you can get by with the normal stuff for a fraction of the price.gymratforlife said:
bicepts101
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bicepts101 said:
here it is...
alltraps said:
Outtlaw
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Understandable. But for advanced people who want to reach the next level you have to take it up a notch. Read my 1st post, I clearly stated running gh at a high dose for long peroids could cause problems. I wouldnt run it continuosly, I'd cycle it for 12-16wks at a time.gymratforlife said:it would not be in my best interest to ever run it above 12 ius.Either cost wise or health wise.GH will fuck you up worse than any aas will at high dosages,and who could afford 18ius a day?I know I definetly couldnt,not for a whole year.
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cbeaks
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satchboogie said:
how do they usually split up the 20iu?
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satchboogie
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cbeaks said:
im not sure.
but my guess is 5i.u in the a.m....
another 5i.u 4-5 hours later..
and 10i.u before bedtime.
Tux
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Damn! I guess I REALLY need to save up some cash lol. I'll just stick to keeping a cleaner diet while bulking for the next decade or so, then once I've gotten my PharmD and have money, I'll hit GH when I'm mid-thirties or so. Then again, I've run it twice at 2iu's/day for 3 months. Both were nutropin, which is a great brand. I didn't see any fat loss or increased size, no more than usual on a cycle, however, I was bulking with insulin, and eating TONS of sugars, fats, and crappy foods, and I didn't gain an ounce of fat. That alone says that 2-4iu's/day is enough to keep me leaner while bulking, and that alone makes it worthwhile to me. Once I can afford to run it at 3-4iu/day for about 6 months, I'm going to run it again and see what I think after that. I don't plan to ever go pro, but I do plan to compete again someday... but not if it requires 20iu/day to do so.
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satchboogie
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the way i see it, the major difference in the physiques of the 70's and those of today is HGH..
how else do you explain guys like ronnie coleman??
more gear?? no way.. the 70's freaks ate dbols like i eat sunflower seeds.
sure we know more today about proper training/diet..
but its all about the hgh.
how else do you explain guys like ronnie coleman??
more gear?? no way.. the 70's freaks ate dbols like i eat sunflower seeds.
sure we know more today about proper training/diet..
but its all about the hgh.
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satchboogie
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Tux said:
IGF and PGF didnt make the scene til recently..
still, ronnie, jay and the others were massive without those 2.
its all about hgh bro..
and in all honesty, anybody who REALLY thinks that 4i.u per day is gonna make a difference is wasting their money.
satchboogie said:
The question of the right dosage, as well as the type and duration of application, Is very difficult to answer. Since there is no scientific research showing how STH should be taken for performance improvement, we can only rely on empirical data, that is experimental values. The respective manufacturers indicate that in cases of hypophysially stunted growth due to lacking or insufficient release of growth hormones by the hypophysis, a weekly average dose of 0.3 I.U./week per pound of body weight should be taken. An athlete weighing 200 pounds, therefore, would have to inject 60 I.U. weekly. The dosage would be divided into three intramuscular injections of 20 I.U. each. Subcutaneous injections (under the skin) are another form of intake which, however, would have to be injected daily, usually 8 I.U. per day. Top athletes usually inject 4-16 I.U~day. Ordinarily, daily subcutaneous injections are preferred Since STH has a half-life time of less than one hour, it is not surprising that some athletes divide their daily dose into three or four subcutaueous injections of 2-4 I.U. each. Application of regular, small dosages seems to bring the most effective results. This also has its reasons: When STH is injected, serum concentration in the blood rises quickly, meaning that the effect is almost immediate. As we know, STH stimulates the liver to produce and release somatomedins and insulin-like growth factors which in turn effect the desired results in the body. Since the liver can only produce a limited amount of these substances, we doubt that larger STH injections will induce the liver to produce instantaneously a larger quantity of somatomedins and insulin-like growth factors. it seems more likely that the liver will react more favorably to smaller dosages.
Tux
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and in all honesty, anybody who REALLY thinks that 4i.u per day is gonna make a difference is wasting their money.
Then, in all honesty satch, you're calling most of the members here who've used GH liars. Almost everyone who's used it has posted that 3-4iu's/day will make a very noticeable difference when you're on gear. Alltraps, a huge guy, said 6iu/day made his half-dose cycle better than 2g's/week. Bottom line, is GH WORTH it? For cutting, at those doses, obviously it IS. For bulking, for most of us, at those doses, it IS. For people who want to be 260lbs and 3% bf onstage at 5'8"... no that won't do shit. But to say that people who really think 4iu's will make a difference are wasting their money is blatantly false, when most of us on this post have already said from personal experience that it will. Why are you so hard on GH Satch? lol, you can afford to run primo at 1g/week, you could afford enough GH to try it both ways and find out for yourself
Then, in all honesty satch, you're calling most of the members here who've used GH liars. Almost everyone who's used it has posted that 3-4iu's/day will make a very noticeable difference when you're on gear. Alltraps, a huge guy, said 6iu/day made his half-dose cycle better than 2g's/week. Bottom line, is GH WORTH it? For cutting, at those doses, obviously it IS. For bulking, for most of us, at those doses, it IS. For people who want to be 260lbs and 3% bf onstage at 5'8"... no that won't do shit. But to say that people who really think 4iu's will make a difference are wasting their money is blatantly false, when most of us on this post have already said from personal experience that it will. Why are you so hard on GH Satch? lol, you can afford to run primo at 1g/week, you could afford enough GH to try it both ways and find out for yourself
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satchboogie
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Tux said:and in all honesty, anybody who REALLY thinks that 4i.u per day is gonna make a difference is wasting their money.
Then, in all honesty satch, you're calling most of the members here who've used GH liars. Almost everyone who's used it has posted that 3-4iu's/day will make a very noticeable difference when you're on gear. Alltraps, a huge guy, said 6iu/day made his half-dose cycle better than 2g's/week. Bottom line, is GH WORTH it? For cutting, at those doses, obviously it IS. For bulking, for most of us, at those doses, it IS. For people who want to be 260lbs and 3% bf onstage at 5'8"... no that won't do shit. But to say that people who really think 4iu's will make a difference are wasting their money is blatantly false, when most of us on this post have already said from personal experience that it will. Why are you so hard on GH Satch? lol, you can afford to run primo at 1g/week, you could afford enough GH to try it both ways and find out for yourself
i'm not calling anybody a liar.. where dya get that from??
look at the poll restuls thus far..
why do you think so many that voted are undecided?
becuase they didnt use enough to see major results.
Tux
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You didn't directly say that, but your statement saying that anyone who thinks 4iu/day is doing something is wasting their money is in direct contradiction to those who stated that 4iu/day did indeed do something noticeable. You are saying that what THEY said isn't true, indirectly calling them liars. I'm not trying to insult you bro, I respect you and your contributions to the board... I just wanted to point out that 4iu/day is not a waste, it just depends on what you're expecting from it. I ran 2iu/day and wasn't expecting much... I bulked up while running 10-15iu's/day of slin and didn't gain an ounce of fat, and i know that's due to the 2iu/day of growth. Obviously 2iu/day will work for me for that purpose. Would it make me huge? I highly doubt it. But it certainly wasn't a waste. That's all I meant to say
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satchboogie
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lets put it this way..
some can grow on 250mg sustanon per week.
most need MUCH more than that..
same with hgh..
some do well with 8i.u per day.
but ive chatted with some freaks and most mentioned an 8i.u per day dose to be childs play.
some can grow on 250mg sustanon per week.
most need MUCH more than that..
same with hgh..
some do well with 8i.u per day.
but ive chatted with some freaks and most mentioned an 8i.u per day dose to be childs play.
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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satchboogie said:
Hgh/gear abuse AND genetics...
Outtlaw
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It depends on what you consider noticable. Sure you're gonna get something out of 4iu, especially when you combine it with high doses of AAS, slin, etc. But for me, to use 4iu to build mass (which is what I take gh for) would be a waste of my money. It would be like taking 2-300mg/wk of primo. For me to use something, the end results have to be worth the price. Im not gonna run 4iu of gh. My results would be minimal, and I would've done better using that money on something else. Im not gonna run 300mg/wk of primo for the same reason.Tux said:You didn't directly say that, but your statement saying that anyone who thinks 4iu/day is doing something is wasting their money is in direct contradiction to those who stated that 4iu/day did indeed do something noticeable. You are saying that what THEY said isn't true, indirectly calling them liars. I'm not trying to insult you bro, I respect you and your contributions to the board... I just wanted to point out that 4iu/day is not a waste, it just depends on what you're expecting from it. I ran 2iu/day and wasn't expecting much... I bulked up while running 10-15iu's/day of slin and didn't gain an ounce of fat, and i know that's due to the 2iu/day of growth. Obviously 2iu/day will work for me for that purpose. Would it make me huge? I highly doubt it. But it certainly wasn't a waste. That's all I meant to say
What most people dont understand is that you have to use a certain amount of something in order to get the full benefits of it. Most people on these boards want to run the lowest dose possible to see results and are not looking to get huge. There's nothing wrong with that. To those people, you really dont even need gh. But if you want to run it at 3-4iu... to each his own. Just know that you wont be getting the most out of the gh. And for a drug that's so expensive, to me that's just not worth it.
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satchboogie
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Outtlaw said:I disagree with the genetics part. But I dont even want to start that arguement again.
i also strongly disagree.
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cbeaks
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I wish that Ironmaster was around to chime in on this thread
courtneybcca
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I would love to see some females point of view on this... I have started doing a little research on gh for females because I will be coming off the primo in two weeks... I am going to be in needing to get a bit leaner then just keeping my results and getting my body adjusted to the new size... So I was thinking gh might be a good option to help my body out... any suggestions?
the guy who says you should inject 20 ius per shot, I am pretty sure he has not done that himself. That is a dangerous dose! 5ius is quite a bit, I wouldn;t go over that per day. You can get a very dangerous edema with 20ius per shot. Maybea you'll suck your brain out your liver LOL. No seriously, that is just rediculous.
IAs for genetics, I say genetics has a good part to do with your response to HGH. For one thing, different people will make more or less IGF-1s in response to the same dose of GH.
I have been on GH for 9 months now. It is my first time. I am in very good shape. My legs are thickest, strongest they have ever been. I checked undecided about if I think its worth it because I am somewhat dreading the day I come off it (soon because of $$$). I am wondering if my pituitary is ever going to be able to make the stuff on its own again. There isn't much data on that but we do know the somatotropes in the brain atrophy with exogenous GH use. I might have to be on this stuff forever if I come off and end uo showing the IGF-1 levels of a senior citizen.
IAs for genetics, I say genetics has a good part to do with your response to HGH. For one thing, different people will make more or less IGF-1s in response to the same dose of GH.
I have been on GH for 9 months now. It is my first time. I am in very good shape. My legs are thickest, strongest they have ever been. I checked undecided about if I think its worth it because I am somewhat dreading the day I come off it (soon because of $$$). I am wondering if my pituitary is ever going to be able to make the stuff on its own again. There isn't much data on that but we do know the somatotropes in the brain atrophy with exogenous GH use. I might have to be on this stuff forever if I come off and end uo showing the IGF-1 levels of a senior citizen.
Oh, by the way, I have a theory that taking some shots of HGH plus arimidex or another potnet antiestrogen compound post aas cycle will greatly imporve the time it takes for PCT to work. When I did this there wa s asuprisingly noticeable effect on the size of my nads. I mean they swelled up really quick.
psychedout
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Whether GH is worth it or not is really an indivudual question. For me, I wouldn't use it even if I got it for free. I am too pretty for GH-gut. I don't care if it only makes my intestines grow 1mm, thats 1mm too many.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
The question whether HGH is worth it or not is far too vague and is highly dependant on the particular scenario or application that warrants its usage.
For therapeutic applications associated with the natural process of aging, yes, it's worth it. Even so, that's if you can afford it and most individuals are not fond of daily injections along with adjusting their nutritional intake. Testosterone replacement therapy is a better option and should preceed HGH therapy in my opinion.
For the average individual who wants is looking for mass gains, no, it's a waste and counterproductive in most cases due to it's diabetogenic properties. HGH must be used with insulin for mass gaining purposes. That's the bottom line. I'll take the Pepsi challenge with anyone on any day of the week in regards to this particular issue.
For the average individual looking for fat loss, maybe, if you can afford it. This scenario is optimized in conjuction with T3, RLA and a low/moderate carbohydrate diet. HGH for weight/fat loss is an act of desperation in my opinion.
For the average indiviual begining PCT or recovering from an injury, maybe, if you can afford it. Technically, there are benefits. However, to what extent and does your scenario absolutely justify spending the financial resources? In most cases, no.
Blah blah blah.
Jenetic
The question whether HGH is worth it or not is far too vague and is highly dependant on the particular scenario or application that warrants its usage.
For therapeutic applications associated with the natural process of aging, yes, it's worth it. Even so, that's if you can afford it and most individuals are not fond of daily injections along with adjusting their nutritional intake. Testosterone replacement therapy is a better option and should preceed HGH therapy in my opinion.
For the average individual who wants is looking for mass gains, no, it's a waste and counterproductive in most cases due to it's diabetogenic properties. HGH must be used with insulin for mass gaining purposes. That's the bottom line. I'll take the Pepsi challenge with anyone on any day of the week in regards to this particular issue.
For the average individual looking for fat loss, maybe, if you can afford it. This scenario is optimized in conjuction with T3, RLA and a low/moderate carbohydrate diet. HGH for weight/fat loss is an act of desperation in my opinion.
For the average indiviual begining PCT or recovering from an injury, maybe, if you can afford it. Technically, there are benefits. However, to what extent and does your scenario absolutely justify spending the financial resources? In most cases, no.
Blah blah blah.
Jenetic
gymratforlife
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Yeah and those same freaks you will tell you 5grams of gear a week is childsplay.Is any less than 5grams a week inefective?Its not,and we all know that its not.It all depends what you want to do with the gh.I do not or have never expected to get huge from 4ius a day for a year.But what I have expected is to be able to use slin with it with minimal fat gains,wich it has done.I also expect it to make my tendons,ligaments and other conective tissues a bit stronger over the course of the next year,my skin more elastic and during cutting cycles to be able to get a little harder than on aas alone and thiner looking skin over the year.I guess it all depends on what your expecting for what you spend.satchboogie said:
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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satchboogie said:
you're right...anyone can take 20iu's ed along with G's of gear and go pro
Outtlaw
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No, that depends on some other factors that you cant control. But with years of hard work coupled with the right nutrition, drugs, and training... then yes, anyone (with average genetics and no serious health conditions) can acheive "close" to a pro level physique.detroitbodybuildertigers said:you're right...anyone can take 20iu's ed along with G's of gear and go pro
concordsize
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wow you guys are realy something .... While reading some of these posts im wondering how many here have actually used gh. Bottom line is you have to see what works for you. Personally @3iu fat loss is pretty good. @6iu fat loss is quite amazing and muscles are much fuller and take on a more 3d look.
Courtney: Women typically respond very well to gh and in high amature shows and pro shows it is common practice. Most women stay around 2-3iu ed. Obviously just like men many women go higher.
.... While reading some of these posts im wondering how many here have actually used gh. Bottom line is you have to see what works for you. Personally @3iu fat loss is pretty good. @6iu fat loss is quite amazing and muscles are much fuller and take on a more 3d look.Courtney: Women typically respond very well to gh and in high amature shows and pro shows it is common practice. Most women stay around 2-3iu ed. Obviously just like men many women go higher.
BBBBig Phenom
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i want to try it
concordsize said:wow you guys are realy something
Courtney: Women typically respond very well to gh and in high amature shows and pro shows it is common practice. Most women stay around 2-3iu ed. Obviously just like men many women go higher.
its like everything else around here, everyone has an opinion on stuff they have never done
Tux
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Lol, yeah I kept wondering why people were saying 2-4iu/day was worthless? I mean, I ran it twice, and I bulked up with slin without gaining an ounce of fat. That's not worthless to me! Granted I've not run it at a massive dose like 8-10iu or more, but I HAVE at least run it twice.
gymratforlife
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Are you my twin from another life or something?Tux said:
Your not only built like me but think like me lol.gymratforlife
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I am now 28Tux said:I think you're a few years older than me bro... my guess is that I'm a clone of you... an early experiment into human genetics and cloning gone awry
psychedout
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Jenetic said:
I can't believe this post hasn't stirred up controversy yet. You won't get any here though because I completely agree.
chyllaxyn
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Dial_tone said:
That maybe the best summation of HG yet.
I have no experience w/ HG ….yet.
I am 45 , getting ready to start my 2nd cycle so I decided to have a very frank conversation with my doctor. ( Best thing I ever did. )
He could see the improvement from my 1st cycle , not only physically but mentally. He saw I was able to talk about steroids at his level and said this was obviously something I had researched.
Then he all but recommended HGH, blew me away.
He said for someone 45+ it was the fountain of youth, that it would ward of osteoporosis, cut recovery time, and help mea lean out and muscle up. Then of course he said he couldn’t give me HGH , ,
chyllaxyn said:That maybe the best summation of HG yet.
I have no experience w/ HG ….yet.
I am 45 , getting ready to start my 2nd cycle so I decided to have a very frank conversation with my doctor. ( Best thing I ever did. )
He could see the improvement from my 1st cycle , not only physically but mentally. He saw I was able to talk about steroids at his level and said this was obviously something I had researched.
Then he all but recommended HGH, blew me away.
He said for someone 45+ it was the fountain of youth, that it would ward of osteoporosis, cut recovery time, and help mea lean out and muscle up. Then of course he said he couldn’t give me HGH , ,
I've been taking low dose, 1iuX6days, for health reasons for couple months. I hope to take it at that dose or above for a long time. It's hard to say with so much stuff involved, but I think I have lost fat, above what I would normally expect. I'm going to bost it up to 2-3 during my next cycle....
It also seems reasonable to me that the amount necessary for musclar growth is likely dependent on size and how far above your genetic potential you are. The amount needed for a 300 pound super freak is likely a LOT more than a 200 pounder. Just like 500 of test will help most, it would like be below maintance for a super freak....
It's clear that a lot of people in bodybuilding, powerlifting, and sports are using some pretty large doses. Look at the change in there facial structure over time, so don't even appear to be the same person. The same occurs with acromegally. It would be interesting to see if any research shows the numbers of gh acromegally patients produce. I'll have to look around, when I find time.....
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satchboogie
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up for the afternoon crew....
Satch,
I have been using norditropin at 2 iu ed for over a year and a half and the results have been amazing. The results manifest themselves in terms of general well being, hair and skin improvement, fat loss and most importantly for me, improved sleep quality. I have had chronic insomnia for mor than 20 years and I now sleep like a baby. Also, I have more energy and increased mental focus.
I feel that those who say that gh sucks are ethier too young to get the most from it or they have unrealistic expectations of what it can give you. Gh is not a steroid and one should not expect steroid like results. It is very much age dependent and I will use it for the rest of my life.
I have been using norditropin at 2 iu ed for over a year and a half and the results have been amazing. The results manifest themselves in terms of general well being, hair and skin improvement, fat loss and most importantly for me, improved sleep quality. I have had chronic insomnia for mor than 20 years and I now sleep like a baby. Also, I have more energy and increased mental focus.
I feel that those who say that gh sucks are ethier too young to get the most from it or they have unrealistic expectations of what it can give you. Gh is not a steroid and one should not expect steroid like results. It is very much age dependent and I will use it for the rest of my life.
Heyasshole
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Well I used 3-4 IU twice a day and separately added 8-10 IU of Insulin after my workouts. I was never so lean and so large at the same time. My best friend is a trainer in another city and when he saw me at the beach he was like...........WTF!!!
anabolic12
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satchboogie - I never thought that we would see that name on this board again
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lartinos
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all i know is blue tops get the same reviews at exoensive nam brand stuff
nova50
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My personal experience with it 'to date'. For the money it's just not worth it at the dosage I was taking through HRT doctor. The stuff is expensive and just didn't see the benefit that I get with regular gear. Dosage I was taking was 1 unit (0.1 ml / 10 on insulin syringe) for over 6 months. Would love to try at higher dosage (as that's where everyone seems to report the most benefit) but just can't justify the cost at this point.
Age = 41 yrs
Age = 41 yrs
jettenOhio
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Absolutely worth it. I was taking 4iu a day first 3 months and 6iu a day for 6 months. I'm 42 but felt like I was 21 and ripped. Takes awhile to get over the joint pain.
Nemisis RR
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How old are you? Pm me if you don't want to say publicly.
kcdoubleeagleplatinum
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yep the doctor's are just way too expensive. I actually had a prescription but fortunately found out about source check. Now I can afford it and for what I am looking for, anti-aging benefits, the cost is relatively reasonable.
DJ_UFO
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How much per day is used for anti-aging benefits?
I wish I could afford it...
my dream cycle would be to add HGH at 5 iu's a day to 250 mgs of test e for 6 months...i'd start the cycle with 100 mgs of anadrol 50 for 4 weeks and end it with 100 mgs of anadrol 50 for 4 weeks...that would be sick!
my dream cycle would be to add HGH at 5 iu's a day to 250 mgs of test e for 6 months...i'd start the cycle with 100 mgs of anadrol 50 for 4 weeks and end it with 100 mgs of anadrol 50 for 4 weeks...that would be sick!
needtogetaas
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O cool a 400 year old post bumped by a vote on a pole. lol
gains vs price/sides/legal= not worth it unless going pro and he just have to have it
gains vs price/sides/legal= not worth it unless going pro and he just have to have it
Acela
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kcdoubleeagleplatinum
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needtogetaas
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lol
RossisaFaggot
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