cwick0 said:The big jump from 335 to 400 killed you. if you would have hit 365 for at least one, you probably could have gotten 400, however, with that big jump i bet you shocked/stunned your muscles.
on a side note:
DID I MENTION I HATE FLYS. I couldnt even get 135 on military last night. My left front delt hurt so fucking bad i was forced to quit on military, which was real sad since i did 315 for 3 last week.
Scotsman said:I agree with cwick0, you should have hit 365 before making your attempt. Still you had a good day so come back next time and KILL THAT SHIT.
Good work on the pr for reps.
Cheers,
Scotsman
WalkingBeast said:11-14-04 Sunday Upper Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Biceps, Rear Delts, Lower Back, Abs, Calves, And Forearms (80 sets of KILLING THAT SHIT)
I only trained 3 days this week, so I figured Id do some catching up today. I hit a small PR on the strict inclines. But only a 1/2 rep PR. I decided to throw in forearms at the end just to hit an even 80 sets. I havent trained them directly in a long time. Heres the routine:
Strict Incline Bench Press: (On the stricter/harder bench)
135x20
225x12
275x12.5 (1/2 rep PR)
315x5.5
315x6 (Forced, bad spot, not sure exactly how many on my own)
275x9.5
225x19.5
Cybex Incline Press Machine (plate loaded):
270x20
360x11.5
410x7
Shoulders:
Dumbell Laterals Dropsets: (stayed light on these since dumbells were all over the place at the gym)
15x15+ (just a warm-up)
Dropset #1: (No rest between sets)
35x15
30x15
25x15
20x15
Dropset #2: (No rest between sets)
35x15
30x15
25x15
20x15
Dropset #3: (No rest between sets)
35x15
30x15
25x15
20x15
Triceps:
Rope Pressdowns:
70x15
90x15
110x15
120x15
130x15
140x15
150x15
160x15
V-Bar Pressdowns:
130x15
150x15
170x15
190x11
190x15
190x12
Biceps:
Straight Bar Cable Curl:
90x15
130x15
150x15
170x15
190x25
Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
35x15
45x15
60x7
Dumbbell Hammer Curls:
45x15
65x15
75x12
Double Biceps Style Cable Curl:
60(per side)x15
80x15
90x15
100x11
Rear Delts:
Reverse Fly Machine:
150x15
195x15
240x15
300x15
Lower Back:
Hyper Extentions:
15
45x15
90x15 (2 45lb plates at arm's length)
135x15 (3 45's)
Abs:
Kneeling Rope Crunches:
190x15
190x15
190x15
190x15
190x15
190x15
Calves:
Seated Calve Raises:
90x15
115x15
115x15
115x15
115x15
115x20
Forearms:
Standing Forearm Curl Backwards:
100x15
100x15
100x15
Dumbbell Wrist Curls On Bench: (Both arms done at the same time)
45x12
45x10
45x10
Standing Forearm Curl Backwards:
100x20
100x20
80 sets total. KILL THAT SHIT!!
TRUEsoldier said:thats fuckin sik!!!!!!I could not imagine doint that much work where you in the gym for about 14 hours!!! LOL awesome shit bro, hope you dont hnch over in misery tomorrow!!
Peace
cwick0 said:I WIN I WIN, I KILLED THE WEIGHTS TODAY, 2 PRs!
incline barbell:
135x15
225x6
275x6
315x6
365x4 (i think a PR by 2 reps)
flat barbell: (rest pauses)
135x10
225x3
315x3
365x3
405x3
425x3 (PR by a rep, strugled to get 2 last week). 405 x 10 will go down SOON!
incline dbs:
100x10
120x10
DONE!
I WANT 405 from you on THURSDAY, 315, 365, then 405! DONT FORGET YOUR WARM UPS!
cwick0 said:You might want to back off the heavy weight for a couple of weeks and go back to reps. Then try again with 405. You should be able to get it then.
TRUEsoldier said:Holy shit bro, that must have been the least intense workout I have read from you in awhile, awesome numbers though. but shit you gettin bored in the gym Beast, you better fuckin KILL THAT SHIT
Peace
Keep in mind I am 999 years old in beast years brother!! Where as I used to be able to saw my arm off and it would grow right back, my recovery abilities arent what they used to be. I recently sawed off my leg and it took 2 fuckin days to grow back!! Regardless!! I WILL KILL THAT SHIT!! TRAIN OR FUCKIN DIE!!cwick0 said:Shitty chest workout yesterday, probably due to training triceps on saturday.
Incline barbell:
135x15
225x10
275x10
315x8 (yep, a little tired or a bad case of pussitis)
flat barbell (rest pauses):
135x10
225x3
315x3
365x3
405x3 that's it.
JKurz1 said:What has made you decrease your volume so drastically Beast? Has it been benefitial? No more 5 hour sessions eh?
cwick0 said:You big dummy, that's my shitty ass workout from yesterday. My training wasn't progressing as i want since i did triceps 48 hours before, so i didnt do any extra pushups or incline dbs.
Plus, my left shoulder is really sore today, so i dont know how good my back workout will be today.
Also...i progressively moving up on the scale, almost 260lbs. Im not sure it is good or bad. Im believe it's more muscle than anything else, but still some of it is LARD. However, i cant complain to much since i dont do any cardio, nor have i taken a supplement in over a year. Im still trying to eat healthy too, but by no means is my diet perfect.
JKurz1 said:?? I didnt even look at the post's writer as I figured most would have the decency to start their own thread instead of hyjacking others........
Mike_Rojas said:Kill That !@#$%^&* Shit!!!
cwick0 said:Shitty chest workout yesterday, probably due to training triceps on saturday.
Incline barbell:
135x15
225x10
275x10
315x8 (yep, a little tired or a bad case of pussitis)
flat barbell (rest pauses):
135x10
225x3
315x3
365x3
405x3 that's it.
WalkingBeast said:11-22-04 Monday Biceps, Lower Back and Abs
Biceps were still REAL sore today. But I said fuck it. I went to the gym to train biceps, so I tore that shit up regardless. They were cramping up good after the routine. Theyre not that sore as I write this, 2am wednesday. Still quite sore though. I used to be able to tear the shit out of my biceps with negatives and other techniques and they hardly ever got sore at all. I even moved furniture ontop of that. Might be the extra weight Im moving now, but I can definately get them sore these days. I didnt get too loose with the form today since my lower back was feeling some bad pain (beyond muscle soreness) before I even entered the gym. Heres the routine:
Biceps:
Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
35x15
Standing EZ Curl Bar Curls:
100x15
120x15
140x15
160x13
180x6
Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
60x8
Standing EZ Curl Bar Curls:
140x11
Alternating Dumbbell Hammer Curls:
45x15
65x13
80x12
105x5
Double Bicep Style Cable Curls:
70 (per side)x15
80x15
90x15
100x11
(16 sets)
Lower Back:
Hyper Extentions:
15
15
15
15
Abs:
Kneeling Rope Crunches:
190x15
190x30
190x30
TRUEsoldier said:HOLY FUCK I could not imagine getting 105lbs DB's up for any type of curls!! that is some awesome shit bro, I think my writst would fall off!!
Peace
Anthrax said:Being forced to take some time off suck big time but it is usually wise if you want to avoid a bad injury that could keep you away from the gym for a long time
How long do you plan to rest ?
InTraining said:Beast...do you feel numbness and tingling in your legs as well?
Does it hurt to sit down for long periods of time or walk?
I hope not but you could have a herniated or buldging disc.
WalkingBeast said:11-27-04 Friday Chest
Once again the holidays fucked up my training schedule. Ended up training a day later, and had to rush since there was only a few hours to train, and my partner was late. The biggest obstacle today was shoulder joint pain which slowed down my pressing considerably and cut out the explosiveness. Ive been training through many types of pain lately, and I think Ill finally start taking more rest, before I have to take a few months off for tearing something. Still feeling a pinched nerve (I think) in my back with pain shooting into my legs. Benching worsens that, as well as back work. My shoulders should be all healed up by next thursday when I bench again, aslong as I rest them. So, the plan for this week is to hit my arms only, and then bench again on thursday. Ill skip back,upper chest,legs and shoulder work this week most likely. ALSO, Ive moved up to 2 M1T pills per day starting today, so that should help me come in heavier and stronger, as well as better rested when I get back. My eating was also off this week. 380 was my best lift of the day, and due to the shoulders, lockout was slow. I plan to be well rested, and focus on eating this week. Should be much stronger next week. Heres the routine:
(196lbs at arrival to the gym, 199 1/2lbs at the end of workout after water)
("Speed Stack", Snickers Marathon Bar)
Flat Bench Press:
135x16
225x12
275x5
315x1
335x2
380x1
400 (fail)
400 (fail)
400 (fail)
315x5
275x14.5
225x26.75 (just short of lockout on last rep)
Routine cut short. Time to rest!!
WalkingBeast said:By tingling do you mean that pins and needles feeling? Like when the leg fallls asleep? I dont get that too often. I get some shooting pains though. Sometimes when I sit or walk, the pain is in my lower back and hip area (side of my upper leg). Hopefully Ill get some answers eventually. KEEP KILLING THAT SHIT!!
cwick0 said:When are you finally going to start repping again. If you keep up the current heavy schedule week after week you shoulder is only going to get worse. Common beast, i know you are one determined SOB, but give your shoulders a break.
P.S. It's my favorite day...chest tonight...405 for 10, or 405 for 6, then 425 for 6...hmmm...not sure how greedy i will be tonight.
InTraining said:The tingling is kind of like a pins and needles feeling,i t's hard to describe. The type of pain and the areas you are getting it in is indicitive of a sciatic nerve problem. Also this type of pain is usually experienced when sitting or walking.
Which exercises aggravate the problem?
Of course I'm not a doctor so this is just all my opinion from having experienced a herniated disc.
WalkingBeast said:ThanX brother!! Sitting and walking causes pain too. Is nerve pain actually indicating that Im damaging something? Or is it just the nerve thats getting crushed, not the actual disks? Im planning an MRI after I finish my M1T then Ill eat some M&M's with 2 parts human flesh. Fuck that was poetic. Id like to get the MRI as soon as possible, so thats a goal. Hopefully itll bring some answers, until then I will rest more and KILL THAT SHIT!! Is the herniated disk still causing you problems? Is it constant pain? Any lifts you cant do, or does it heal somewhat over time? Still learning about all this. Deadlifts and even preacher curls aggravate it. Anything that puts too much pressure on the lower back can also pull it out too. But theres two problems. One is my lower back that pulls out easily and another is in my upper spine, feels like a little pinch, and while the pain isnt strong and sharp, its very annoying and seems to get worse. ThanX again brother!!
InTraining said:If you have a herniated or buldging disc it will be pushing against the nerve, and sometimes that will cause nerve damage.. Yeh definitely get an MRI if you can, that's the only real way to find out what is going on
My herniated disc causes me to be in a constant state of pain...I've gotten one epidural shot and that has helped a lot...trying some other things right now to lessen the pain even more...I'm completely against surgery for this and all except 1 doctor I have talked to told me not to get the surgery..
There are a bunch of lifts I can't do..any leg work for example..though my legs have held up in size and have even gotten bigger...was pretty bizarre actually...I can do most upper body lifts with no problems but I have to be careful of course..
Thanks for your concern bro! Hope all turns out well for you
WalkingBeast said:12-4-04 Saturday Triceps and Biceps
Went light. Workout cut short. Alot of back pain and some sharp pain in rotator. Heres the routine:
Triceps:
Rope Pressdowns:
70x15
90x15
110x15
120x15
130x15
140x15
150x15
V-bar Pressdowns:
150x15
170x15
190x15
150x15
150x15
Biceps:
Alternating Dumbbell Curls: (lots of soreness in bicep and forearm)
35x15
45x15
55x8
Alternating Dumbbell Hammer Curls:
50x12
65x12
75x12
110x4
TRUEsoldier said:wait a fuckin minute,no "kill that shit" in your post, no fuckin motivation at all!!!! you better give us back the fuckinn beast we know!!!
you better fix that shit beast, I look at your journal daily to find some motivation to get me in the gym and ready to kill shit!!! So if you dont mind, please and this is with "puss-n-boots" puppy dog eyes....edit your last post, and fucking put some god damn KILL THAT SHIT motivation in there..
thank you
Peace
ThanX brother!! You KICK fuckin ass!! ThanX for reading this shit! Ive been in a bad fuckin mood lately! haha Back is giving me problems, everything hurts. Ive been ignoring the pain and training through it, but it looks to be catching up to me. The main problem being my upper spine area. Its like Im pinching something back there when I bench or train back. I feel it 24/7 and have had a headache for the last 2 weeks (mild). Lower back has felt pulled for weeks. I see lots of flashes of light too. It only serves to infuriate me! But regardless I am tearing myself to pieces. Grinding my spine to dust! haha Just some of the pain Ive been feeling. Im still planning to max on thursday when I bench. Going to get some MRI's done soon, hopefully. KEEP KILLING THAT SHIT!! ThanX again for the encouragement!!JohnnyCoho said:Beast, back is nothin' to fool around with Brah!!! Take er' easy till ya get an MRI done!!! You'll always be an inspiration to all of us if yer in good health!!
I was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease a couple of years ago (very little fluid left in my discs) Had L1, L2, L3, herinated L4 had a tear in it T1, T2 & T3 were also buldging. Had one epideral and then Went through 3 series of steroid shots up and down my spine,..."NEVER AGAIN" I told myself!! Layed me out for a few days each!! Started slow getting my core back into shape working with a physical therapist, then on from there taking it easy like InTraining said. Doc told me to stay away from Squats and Deads but I started really light on them and now I've built myself up to being in the best shape of my life. Still periodically go and see the doc and he says I'm his hero. Said he's never seen anyone turn somthing like this around to get into the shape I'm in now and tells all his back problem patients about me. Burst his bubble a little and told him it wasnt all he thought,..didn't want them dam steroid shots in my spine again!!!
Nothin' personal against yer BeastLifts Brah' but the sheering force on yer spine at that angle has to be huge!! Lay off em' for awhile!!
Stay tuff and KEEP TO THE KILLING OF THIS THAT AND VARIOUS OTHER SHITS till yer back is good again!!!
Anthrax said:Sorry to hear you're still injured
Have you considered ART ? or at least a chiro ?
WalkingBeast said:ThanX alot brother!! Alot of fuckin inspiration!! Do you still feel constant pain and discomfort? I havent done those beast lifts in a while. Leaning back with 730lbs always felt dangerous. The addiction grabbed hold of me though. Are the disks still bulging? Always thought disk damage was permanent. I may not have the benefit of going to someone for rehab. What did you do to rehab your back? ThanX again for all the feedback and inspiration!! KILL THAT SHIT!!
cwick0 said:GET BETTER GOD DAMN IT!
Im curious as to what the hell is hurting your upper spine, i havent heard a lot of those, always lumbar.
Anyways, MORE PRs tonight.
BENCH PR, HIGHEST REP TOTAL EVER!
flat barbell:
135x20
225x10
275x6
315x6
365x6
405x6
455x3
315x20 (cool down, i think this may be a PR too)
incline dbs:
100x10
120x10
120x8
pushups: 1 set of 30, real shitty after last weeks set of 50.
JohnnyCoho said:Beast, no, I no longer feel the constant pain or discomfort I once did. (every now and then though I do feel muscle fatigue in my back)
What I have I is called "Chronic Degenerative Disc Disease" which basically means I have a back of an old man. When MRI was originally done my Orthopedic Surgeon had up on the wall My MRI, The MRI of a healthy 36 year old's and one of a 75-80 yr old man. On the healthy 36 yr olds you could see good spacing and the fluid between the discs. Mine looked like the old mans and looked black where fluid should be and vertibrae were very close together. Not pretty, herinated discs, bulging discs and very little fluid in the discs. I wasn't about to let it beat me!!! I was gonna KILL THAT SHIT!!! (Trust me & InTraining when we tell ya, Ya dont wanna have shots in yer spine!!!)
Only meds I was taking, after having and epideral and a series of steroid shots in my spine was two Aleeve a day as prescribed by the Doc. They did help some with pain and discomfort.
I started slow working with a physical therapist who introduced me to the Swiss Ball. Like you I couldn't afford the physical therapist twice a week and set out on my own. Bought myself a Swiss Ball (probably one of the best investments I've ever made in my life) and some books on working out with a Swiss Ball and building back up my core. (Thought I originally had a strong core,...NOT... been a Wrestler most of my life and always kept in shape) The Swiss Ball humbled me quite a bit. When I started I couldn't even bend over far enough to get just below my knees. After working with the Swiss Ball on flexibility and building my core back up my back was feeling a ton better with very little pain. Core is rock solid now!!
Doc told me that since this is a degenerative disease that eventually my muscles will be what is supporting my back; So once my core was strong and the pain and discomfort had subsided I set out to build my muscles back up. After a ton of research went and bought myself some "Jump Stretch Power Bands" and worked with them for awhile and slowly worked myself into weights. Got into a Westside Routine for quite awhile.
Now I'm in the best shape of my life!! Doc never thought I'd be able to Squat or Deadlift but as ya saw a few weeks ago I set new PR's for myself in both and will be shooting for that 500lb Deadlfit soon.
Back problems will always be there for me and the gym is not just an addiction now, its a way of life. KEY IS TO LIFT SMART!!! And it cant be said enough, FORM IS EVERYTHING!!! Currently I'm on an HST program and feelin great and current goal is to see just wat my genetic limits are and to see how big I can get naturally. After that I'll most likely go back on a modified Westside type routine for good,..and for over-all general health.
WHOAAAA,...dam that was long,..sorry Brotha!! KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT,...JUST DO IT SMART!!!
nice!cwick0 said:315x20
TRUEsoldier said:awesome shit beast, hopefully they just say your back is tight and a lil time off will be good for ya, and then you can get back to kiling shit again!!!
Peace
cwick0 said:Once again it's chest day...
flat bench:
135x20
225x10
315x6
365x6
405x6
455x4 (1 rep PR)
cooldown
315x21 (1 rep PR)
incline dbs:
100x10
120x10
pushups:
1x40
tricep pushdowns:
120x10
150x10
180x10
A decent workoug but nothing great.
Allon said:Hey Beast, haven't checked your journal for a while but all seems as normal here, you bouncing around incredible weights with stupendous amount of reps!
Anyway, first of all I am sorry to hear about your back, I thought you had overcome it.
In my experience bulging disks can be fixed almost completely.
I must hand it to JohnnyCoho with his amazing post, great advice there. I have a bulging disk myself and once I thought I would never overcome it but I have.
Physiotherapy can really help. Basically, what I found was that the best thing for me was to stretch the muscles lightly, and regain flexibility and to stimulate the muscle and nerves in that area in as many ways as possible.
However, when working out that back, which is what helped me, I had to be carefull and never pull max weight around. A few easy sets of 8-12 reps per exersize, is what works best. 3 exersizes for the back. For me cable seated rows + pulldowns + easy deadlifts are the trick. Never get to the point where my back feels pumped like my other muscles can.
I think you are at a point where your brute strength is so high that you can easily lift weights that maybe you shouldn't be lifting for the back. Like for instance your back muscles may not be as strong as your lifts but your overall strength is letting you shift the weight anyhow... this can cause major damage. So maybe do deads but lift half the weight you can for 2 sets of 6 reps, just to stimulate the muscles.
I don't know if you feel pain apart from when working out, but if you do then whenever I feel the pain coming on during the day I will try to flex the muscle in that area, it really helps.
Also, now this may sound strange, but I scratch the area around the pain, the whole area around it for a few good minutes, this causes a reaction in the nerve and it really tingles but after doing this I feel a lot better.
Anyway, I hope you recover soon, JohnnyCoHo really gave some great advice there so I am just adding in my advice from my experience.
Keep killing that shit man!!! (and take it easy on the back)

BlondBomber said:What you doing to heal up Beast?![]()
cwick0 said:Hey Beast,
I finally got back into the gym yesterday after a week off. My regular gym closed for the holiday last friday, plus i was finishing my thesis thursday and friday. Finally everything is over and i get to relax and train. Yesterday i did a little chest and a full back and tri workout. Only went to 365 for 10 yesterday, but ill be back over 4 next week. Have a great holiday and hope the back is healing.
wick
TRUEsoldier said:awesome lifts bro, but dont push it, heal so you can hit some serious weight soon!!
Peace
BigBadBootyDaddy29 said:Beast, I have a bench workout that is time consuming and mentally draining, and you're just the psycho it would be perfect for. I see you have been stuck at 395 for a significant while, and, like me, you're old school in your approach to raining and your work ethic. This is a program that Doug Hepburn used way back when. It is meant to be done once a week, say Monday, then if you want you can do a lighter bench workout later in the week.
If your one rep max is 395, you want to warm up to a weight you can get 5 singles with, with no failing. The first week, I'd suggest you use 365 or so. Warm up, do 5 singles at 365, then drop some weight and do a hard 5x3-5, if you get all 5 reps on all sets, move up the next week, if you only are getting 3-4 at the end, stay the next week, if you get less than 3, you need to lower the weight to at least complete 3 reps. You want to get all 5 of the singles, if you start failing, you're using too much weight. Start conservatively and the only way to go is up. Try this for 4-6 weeks and see how you progress. Once you can do 5 singles with 390 and your top end set of 5 is about 355, try a 1 RM and I guarantee you 400 will be left in the dust.
I hope I don't come across as trying to tell you how to train, it is just that this program is designed to bust through a wall, and 400 is a significant benching milestone, and repeated failed attempts tend to leave people with mental barriers. Not too many people are interested in it because God forbid they spend more than 40 minutes in the gym, lol. I figure you're a glutton for punishment, you're an advanced trainee, and you have no problem spending chunks of time in the gym.
If you feel you need to try a little something different, give it a shot......I'd begin workout 1 like this......
135x10
225x5
275x3
315x2
335x1
365 x 5 sets of 1
315 x 5 sets of 5......starting conservative to guage since the only place to go is up.
lavi said:Only 10lbs Away From A 405 Bench Get It Now!!!!!!! Kill That Shit And Up Your Eating!!!!!!!
JKurz1 said:Beast - wut up..havent read it in awhile but just looking at your back routine, something aint right man..........you're putting up more weight than many pros........hell, Coleman doesnt put up too much more.........what the hell is the deal? Your tendons and ligaments must be stronger than piss, cause your physique doesnt match your strength.........anywho, great work...........where's that video????
JohnnyCoho said:Congrats on all the recent PR's Brother!! KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT,...and let that back heal,..you'll hate life when yer my age if ya dont!!!
Also, whats a Cybex Eagle Row?
PM me with yer e-mail address if ya like the Av I made while on my road to recovering from the crud Brotha. Will send it to ya as the founder of the KILL THAT SHIT admin.
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