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the anavar poll

the anavar poll

  • yes its worth every penny

    Votes: 117 57.1%

  • yes its worth more than it is

    Votes: 22 10.7%

  • its ok just another anabolic

    Votes: 46 22.4%

  • screw it, im broke

    Votes: 20 9.8%
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It's OK and definitely has it's place in a bodybuilder's arsenal, but I believe that it is overpriced and hopefully it comes down in the future. If it ever comes down in price, it will become a much more popular steroid. The only drawback to Anavar is the price!

NN
 
George put it right in his email.

Strength like d-ball. No water retention like no other gear.

Excellent for 8-10 pounds of hard muscle. If you are big already or looking for more of a 'model' type lean physique, Anavar is the way to go. 25 mg a day x 12 weeks should do it. I like it with Creatine (Cell Tech).

Time
 
its overpriced IMO. I cant knock it cause I havent used it, but just overpriced, for the gains, youo can take winny or even fina, or both togehter and get better results with some $$$ left in your bank.
 
time4akshun said:

Strength like d-ball. No water retention like no other gear.
Time
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I have to disagree with saying that Anavar produces strength in the same neighborhood as D-bol.

Do you think that 25 mg Anavar will equal the effects on strength that D-bol at 25 mg will give you. Hell no!!!!! Anavar is good for strength but it's not as good as D-bol.

NN
 
Anavar does give strenght and build muscle, with few sides but at a very expensive cost. No it's not dbols. Can't compare the strenght from 25 mg of each. Maybe at 50 mg we could but thats cost prohibitive for most of us. It will get you some permanent muscle. But again nothing sensational. 5 lbs from an anavar only should be seen as great.

Problem is, some folks here are looking for the best of both world, an all-in-one product. It doesn't exist. Everything comes with a price and risks. Some more, some less. Personally I place Anavar among my three fav. (others being Deca and sustanon).
 
manny78 said:

Problem is, some folks here are looking for the best of both world, an all-in-one product. It doesn't exist.
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I agree. This is why we stack usually at least 2 drugs together, b/c no steroid is perfect in all ways. I have seen a lot of people on this site that think that Anavar by itself is the way to go, because they believe that it is very safe and it will give them everything that they want. They'll just have to experiment and learn this on their own.

NN
 
I am from the old school and have always felt anavar was a nice mild anabolic for

women,

not for men.

I guess younger men are more liberated and feminized then myself.
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
bro...the homies go way higher tha 30 or 40mg ed...up like 80mg to 100mg
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For the record, I'm not doing an Anavar cycle only, I'm including Test e and Primo, for my second cycle. What about health risks with 80mgs to 100mgs of Anavar? Are there any? I'm planning on being on it the first 6 wks of my 12 wk cycle.
 
time4akshun said:
George put it right in his email.

Strength like d-ball. No water retention like no other gear.

Excellent for 8-10 pounds of hard muscle. If you are big already or looking for more of a 'model' type lean physique, Anavar is the way to go. 25 mg a day x 12 weeks should do it. I like it with Creatine (Cell Tech).

Time
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25mg is a bitch dose. 50mg minimum and preferably 80
 
I loved it!!!!

The cholesteral issue concerns me though.

Does anyone have any good links on the effects Anavar has on cholesteral?
 
mookie said:
Var is one of my favorites. Tried almost everything except tren Test and var are my favorites.
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Trust me, once you try tren you won't go back to var, or anything else.

P.S. I agree with solidspine, var IMO is nice for women. Men use fina. If you want an oral to get you strong, hard, and vascular, use winny. You can get about 3 times as much for your $$. You can run mega doses with NPP or deca and your joints wont hurt a bit.
 
bigjxxl said:
I loved it!!!!

The cholesteral issue concerns me though.

Does anyone have any good links on the effects Anavar has on cholesteral?
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Any 17aa oral steroid will fuck up your lipid profile and bump your transaminases. Again, no reason to use anavar over winstrol.
 
52_21_30 said:
Any 17aa oral steroid will fuck up your lipid profile and bump your transaminases. Again, no reason to use anavar over winstrol.
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I have one very good reason my joints. Winstrol killed my joints and shoulders also if your are prone to baldness you might wonna stay away from winstrol.
 
52_21_30 said:
Trust me, once you try tren you won't go back to var, or anything else.

P.S. I agree with solidspine, var IMO is nice for women. Men use fina. If you want an oral to get you strong, hard, and vascular, use winny. You can get about 3 times as much for your $$. You can run mega doses with NPP or deca and your joints wont hurt a bit.
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I must be a girl then fina is the only steroid I will not do. I do not think money should be a issue when you are doing steroids.
 
bro's you do realize this thread was from 2002 right????????????????

btw 60-80mg of var is superior to winny any day!!!

winny scalps you, dries out your joints and leaves you pretty depressed post cycle

anavar+masteron will give you that " look" winny will do

winny is a great compound if you dont get the sides IMO

i loved it at first, then when i got off it i realized i will never use it again
 
time4akshun said:
George put it right in his email.

Strength like d-ball. No water retention like no other gear.

Excellent for 8-10 pounds of hard muscle. If you are big already or looking for more of a 'model' type lean physique, Anavar is the way to go. 25 mg a day x 12 weeks should do it. I like it with Creatine (Cell Tech).

Time
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:rolleyes:
 
I have used it on several occasions (cause I could get Oxandrine and Test with a Rx) and never really noticed much benefit to it over the test alone. Unless you are female, the dosages need to start at about 40mgs and go up from there. Now for my wife, it seemed to work pretty good...wish my dr. would still prescribe it for her sake!!!
 
i liked it at 25mg ED with deca....too scared for using fina...want to but too concerned about hairloss cause its lot more androgenic than test
 
solidspine said:
I am from the old school and have always felt anavar was a nice mild anabolic for

women,

not for men.

I guess younger men are more liberated and feminized then myself.
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I wasn't impressed with var at all, and I was running over 80mg/ed for a first time. So yes it is over-priced and over-appraised, IMO....plus not everyone has the time or a sterile environment to homebrew. Personally, I saw more gains from 50mg of winny.

~Alc
 
I'm pretty enthused about using it in my upcoming cycle. I don't expect anything insane from it, but for my goals it should work out nicely. 80mgs/ED for the first 6 weeks of my Test C/Tren E cycle :).
 
I ran it for 8 weeks with my cycle for the first time recently. I liked it. Nice hardness, shed some abdominal fat. But it is very expensive when you compare it to other orals. And the damn pumps were killing me in my calves and forearms.
 
mookie said:
I must be a girl then fina is the only steroid I will not do. I do not think money should be a issue when you are doing steroids.
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LOL nah bro you're not a girl. I didnt mean it that way. I wasn't putting down anyone that uses var. Just my opinion. That, and it seems that all the spring break/summer time juicers choose var to get "shredded" (yeah right) because of their lack of knowledge. That is, they think it's safe at high doses and doesnt suppress HPTA. And I agree 100% money should not be a factor. But when you compete and are on GH pretty much year round, it makes the decision easier whether or not to get a bunch of winny versus much less var for the same $$. Also, I mentioned this in another var thread, all the buzz var gets on these boards is not good for you guys that use it. It allows the labs to keep their prices nice and high due to demand. Also, unless you're getting pharm grade oxandralone, you are getting ripped off. I have not seen an UG lab that sells var at the dose advertised. The chinese powder used to make the capsules is underdosed right out of the gate, then the labs underdose it a little more. Even BD var when tested was underdosed.

But hey, to each his own. Best of luck to all with whatever you choose to run.
 
52_21_30 said:
LOL nah bro you're not a girl. I didnt mean it that way. I wasn't putting down anyone that uses var. Just my opinion. That, and it seems that all the spring break/summer time juicers choose var to get "shredded" (yeah right) because of their lack of knowledge. That is, they think it's safe at high doses and doesnt suppress HPTA. And I agree 100% money should not be a factor. But when you compete and are on GH pretty much year round, it makes the decision easier whether or not to get a bunch of winny versus much less var for the same $$. Also, I mentioned this in another var thread, all the buzz var gets on these boards is not good for you guys that use it. It allows the labs to keep their prices nice and high due to demand. Also, unless you're getting pharm grade oxandralone, you are getting ripped off. I have not seen an UG lab that sells var at the dose advertised. The chinese powder used to make the capsules is underdosed right out of the gate, then the labs underdose it a little more. Even BD var when tested was underdosed.

But hey, to each his own. Best of luck to all with whatever you choose to run.
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Yeah it use to be all the spring breakers were wanting winny asking if they can drink it seems people are talking up var alot more. It seems there is a hot topic on one certain compound every couple months right now its var a couple months ago it was turanabol and when satch was here primo. There will be alot of winny post soon.
 
yeah i can imagine...I can start to see the spring breakers in the gym now. You can spot them by their fake orange tan and wife beaters that aren't even close to being filled out.
 
I've yet to use real Ox, so I am gonna give it a shot here in a few months at 100mg/d....just a little test with it for 10 weeks. This is to get first hand knowledge with it.....FINA/Winny combo whoooops everythings ass IMO......so we'll see.

I'm going the powder route......i'd never spend the money for tabs/caps at the prices they are today.

BTW...Test, and maybe eq will probably also be thrown in as well.

BMJ
 
52_21_30 said:
LOL nah bro you're not a girl. I didnt mean it that way. I wasn't putting down anyone that uses var. Just my opinion. That, and it seems that all the spring break/summer time juicers choose var to get "shredded" (yeah right) because of their lack of knowledge. That is, they think it's safe at high doses and doesnt suppress HPTA. And I agree 100% money should not be a factor. But when you compete and are on GH pretty much year round, it makes the decision easier whether or not to get a bunch of winny versus much less var for the same $$. Also, I mentioned this in another var thread, all the buzz var gets on these boards is not good for you guys that use it. It allows the labs to keep their prices nice and high due to demand. Also, unless you're getting pharm grade oxandralone, you are getting ripped off. I have not seen an UG lab that sells var at the dose advertised. The chinese powder used to make the capsules is underdosed right out of the gate, then the labs underdose it a little more. Even BD var when tested was underdosed.

But hey, to each his own. Best of luck to all with whatever you choose to run.
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How much do you think they underdose/cut Var (UG labs) 20%,30%,50%?
Lets say you got 30ml's of var -50mg/ml. You think it would be more like 20-40mg per ml?????? Thats some bullshit if true....
 
tonyroma said:
How much do you think they underdose/cut Var (UG labs) 20%,30%,50%?
Lets say you got 30ml's of var -50mg/ml. You think it would be more like 20-40mg per ml?????? Thats some bullshit if true....
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I know the BD 10 mg tested at 7 mg. As far as liquid prep's I have no idea. Makes you wonder why people swear by these high doses (100 mg/day). If it were pure you wouldnt need anywhere near that dose. UG labs that use powder to make caps are what you have to worry about. I tried GTP's winny caps once and i got bloated with a lot of acne. It was probably underdosed dbol powder.
 
52_21_30 said:
I know the BD 10 mg tested at 7 mg. As far as liquid prep's I have no idea. Makes you wonder why people swear by these high doses (100 mg/day). If it were pure you wouldnt need anywhere near that dose. UG labs that use powder to make caps are what you have to worry about. I tried GTP's winny caps once and i got bloated with a lot of acne. It was probably underdosed dbol powder.
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Wow, that might explain why I never really felt the Var until I bumbed it up to 75 ed. I didn't realize that it was sold like coke.
 
tonyroma said:
Wow, that might explain why I never really felt the Var until I bumbed it up to 75 ed. I didn't realize that it was sold like coke.
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It's not just var. Any powdered capsule may be underdosed. But var is the most notorious due to its popularity and price. If anything it's usually cut with some winny, or may very well be straight winny.
 
bigjxxl said:
I loved it!!!!

The cholesteral issue concerns me though.

Does anyone have any good links on the effects Anavar has on cholesteral?
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http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01828yf.jpg

This is what it did to me, lowered good cholesterol (HDL) quite a bit which threw off cholesterol/HDL ratio. Bad cholesterol (LDL) was still in normal range and total cholesterol was still in low-normal range, but the fact I had virtually no bodyfat, was exercising and doing a lot of cardio at the time, shows how much anavar can screw up your blood cholesterol levels despite otherwise doing all the right things (like diet, exercise, and weightloss).

I was taking 50mg/day of BD var. Nothing else (no test, nothing). I would never again take a mild anabolic without at least maintenance level test (250mg/week or 250mg/two-weeks). Low test means low libido and aggression, etc.
 
52_21_30 said:
Also, unless you're getting pharm grade oxandralone, you are getting ripped off. I have not seen an UG lab that sells var at the dose advertised. The chinese powder used to make the capsules is underdosed right out of the gate, then the labs underdose it a little more. Even BD var when tested was underdosed.

But hey, to each his own. Best of luck to all with whatever you choose to run.
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TRUEST STATEMENT ON EF THUS FAR>
Right now there are only a handful of Pharm Grade Oxandrolone products that have quality powders made from India and tested to USP (United States Pharmacopeia) or BP (British Pharmacopoeia) standards. If you took far over 50mg and did not get more vascular, stronger, ripped, shredded and harder, you got some way underdosed or possibly mislead bottle of var.

The powder per kilo is more expensive than most any other AAS, but its shouldn't 'break your bank.'
 
and if you get a powder capsule of anything I'd be totally suspect of it!!
Oxandrolone tabs come in 2.5mg thru 10mg tabs. There are NO labs currently making quality Var above 10mg tabs.

30mg/day for men is often considered a very high dose for prescriptions.
Women, 5mg /day.

Some pro BB'ers have been using upwards of 150mg/day on cycles. This is an extremely high dose is often short lived. Others I know use 30-50 mg ed with prolonged cycles.

http://www.genesismeds.com/product_details.asp-mcat=3&pidx=11.htm
 
iHulk said:
TRUEST STATEMENT ON EF THUS FAR>
Right now there are only a handful of Pharm Grade Oxandrolone products that have quality powders made from India and tested to USP (United States Pharmacopeia) or BP (British Pharmacopoeia) standards. If you took far over 50mg and did not get more vascular, stronger, ripped, shredded and harder, you got some way underdosed or possibly mislead bottle of var.

The powder per kilo is more expensive than most any other AAS, but its shouldn't 'break your bank.'
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That's all fine, so in this reality you have to figure that if the guy who's claiming to get phenomenol results with 100mg/day of an UG lab would get the same results on less if he was using BTG, a human grade USA certified pharmaceutical company. Just keep the dose higher if it's UG. That's why I say fuck all these UG companies. The worst thing that happened was when the Mexican vets were shut down. They were by far the most consistent of non-human-grade labs.
 
Whoa there fellas! There ARE some extremely honest small UG labs out there making quality Var caps from USP26 grade powder that is tested. Their businesses are so small that word of mouth advertising is the only thing they have going for them. If they were to underdose/mislead their customers, they wouldn't be in business very long.
I agree to some extent with the views on some of the large UG's. Those guys start out with the best of intentions, but pretty soon, there is so much money to be made that they forget the real reasons they got into it in the first place.

For what it's worth, there's a feeling you get when the UG you are dealing with cares about what they do, and they appreciate your business. You get personal service, and attention to detail. If you don't get that from your UG, then it's time to shop somewhere else.
 
iHulk said:
and if you get a powder capsule of anything I'd be totally suspect of it!!
Oxandrolone tabs come in 2.5mg thru 10mg tabs. There are NO labs currently making quality Var above 10mg tabs.

30mg/day for men is often considered a very high dose for prescriptions.
Women, 5mg /day.

Some pro BB'ers have been using upwards of 150mg/day on cycles. This is an extremely high dose is often short lived. Others I know use 30-50 mg ed with prolonged cycles.

http://www.genesismeds.com/product_details.asp-mcat=3&pidx=11.htm
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ok ive had enough of these types of posts!!

Im sorry but you dont know WTF your talking about man,

nobody make's quality var tabs huh?


LMAO your funny
 
georgie24 said:
ok ive had enough of these types of posts!!

Im sorry but you dont know WTF your talking about man,

nobody make's quality var tabs huh?


LMAO your funny
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nope. Not so much these day georgie boy. Bet you can't trace your powder to the real manufacturer. Especially if you're livin in the US.
 
and you mysteriously have the 411 on powder purity and who has access to what

listen you mean well and your trying to make a name for yourself i understand that, but by reading your post it sounds like you dont have the faintest clue
 
52_21_30 said:
Any 17aa oral steroid will fuck up your lipid profile and bump your transaminases. Again, no reason to use anavar over winstrol.
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There are plenty of reason's to use Anavar over Winstrol. Top on my list is the fact that I really want to keep the hair that I have for as long as possible. Everyone is different in what they want. If you want a good little boost in strenght and maybe a couple extra pounds with no water weight, then Anavar is great.
 
georgie24 said:
and you mysteriously have the 411 on powder purity and who has access to what

listen you mean well and your trying to make a name for yourself i understand that, but by reading your post it sounds like you dont have the faintest clue
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yea, I do have the 411 and thats all I'll say about that. LMAO that you think I'm trying to make a name for myself... like what do you mean by that?!

Faintest clue... lol! Bro you are in the dark about a lot of what really goes on. Why don't you post some pics big guy?
 
we can go back and forth all night long, quite frankly i dont want to right now.

unless your le/fda and had everything tested then how would you know such sensative information?

so what your making gear and labeling it for resell?

join the 1,000,001 other people
 
georgie24 said:
we can go back and forth all night long, quite frankly i dont want to right now.

unless your le/fda and had everything tested then how would you know such sensative information?

so what your making gear and labeling it for resell?

join the 1,000,001 other people
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no I'm not LE. But you're right I can't possibly know whats going on across the world with all these UG's popping up and getting their powders from nefarious sources.

The dilly is I've worked for this Pharm Co. for a few years and another 1 before that. They are all certified, registered Pharmacopoeia Co. dealing in "rejuvenation" products. And in so dealing and talking with other reps, Men's Clinics, Pro'BB'ers and with other reps from similar companies I've got to know a few players and manufacturers and labs and in a sense I've been able to be somewhat in the know. OK.

PM if you want more info than that.
 
marshallmadman said:
Whoa there fellas! There ARE some extremely honest small UG labs out there making quality Var caps from USP26 grade powder that is tested. Their businesses are so small that word of mouth advertising is the only thing they have going for them. If they were to underdose/mislead their customers, they wouldn't be in business very long.
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I'm sure there hundreds if not thousands of legit UGs out there getting quality stuff but I'm talkin mainly about Pharmacopoeia Grade Oxandrolone.
Cheers.
 
iHulk said:
and if you get a powder capsule of anything I'd be totally suspect of it!!
Oxandrolone tabs come in 2.5mg thru 10mg tabs. There are NO labs currently making quality Var above 10mg tabs.

30mg/day for men is often considered a very high dose for prescriptions.
Women, 5mg /day.

Some pro BB'ers have been using upwards of 150mg/day on cycles. This is an extremely high dose is often short lived. Others I know use 30-50 mg ed with prolonged cycles.

http://www.genesismeds.com/product_details.asp-mcat=3&pidx=11.htm
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Yes, some ug labs sell underdosed products, not just var. The main reason these guys are taking these high doses of var is they dont have the patience to run a mild anabolic like var.(or primo) Thay think they are going to "feel" it like they would Drol or Dbol. They mistake immediate big pumps and bloat for muscle gains. The muscle gain from var is better quality(less bloat, hardness, easier to keep) than just about any other oral.

Its hard to make var tabs above 20mg without the solution crashing. But I know a few bros that are making liquid Var at 30-50mg/ml. great stuff. just mix in juice.

Its not as hard as you make it sound to get quality powder. Just because something comes from outside the U.S. doesnt mean the quality is bad. Powder is not expensive. An Ug lab would self destruct by underdosing.
 
The best Ox powder comes from Egypt.

China will vary depending which manufacturer you go through. The only way to know is to have each order/batch you purchase tested. The synthesis for Ox is a little more complicated than other compounds (as Macro has also suggested), so cutting corners is common with this compound. All you have to do is compensate for the difference. Keep in mind that the constituents that these manufacturers use as fillers are not always the safest (heavy metals, biocontaminants, etc).....so those who order less pure Ox and have to compensate a larger difference, may also run into extra sides from these "extras."

Also, Ordering China based powder and compensating may still come out cheaper than ordering elsewhere.

There is no reason that those who are involved with UG labs supply/distribution should not have EVERY batch tested for purity. Those thinking it is gonna be 100% pure are ignorant if involved in selling.

BMJ
 
How much does Var shut you down? I imagine Var/T3 might make a great cutting cycle. What do you guys think? Bad idea to do that at the end of a test cycle??
 
td1111 said:
How much does Var shut you down? I imagine Var/T3 might make a great cutting cycle. What do you guys think? Bad idea to do that at the end of a test cycle??
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Shuts you down the least, but if you're already shut down from other aas like test or tren then switching to var wont help. Also, depends on dosage.
 
Watson said:
There are plenty of reason's to use Anavar over Winstrol. Top on my list is the fact that I really want to keep the hair that I have for as long as possible. Everyone is different in what they want. If you want a good little boost in strenght and maybe a couple extra pounds with no water weight, then Anavar is great.
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Keep the hair baby! Exactly. I spend twice as much just to keep the hair and keep the joints. VAR!!!
 
I will not claim to have anywhere near the knowledge or experience as some on this thread. But I personally have found Var to be great at cutting up especially in the abdominal area. 40mg a day works wonders for me but I have a small frame so higher doses may be needed depending upon body type. I have not experienced any noticable side effects other than a little leg joint/muscle soreness after a quality cardio session {35-40 minutes on the treadmill at a running pace} If your goals are to shed that lingering fat without getting too bulky- I would highly recommend Var. Of course results are only as good as the quality of the gear you get. And as far as cost- I mean you have to pay to play in life and if you can't afford it well that sucks but those who can should work it into their program
 
td1111 said:
How much does Var shut you down? I imagine Var/T3 might make a great cutting cycle. What do you guys think? Bad idea to do that at the end of a test cycle??
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even with var, the t3 will eat some muscle, not as much as no aas at all, but it will get some..

a better stack would be

75mg test prop
40mg var
50-75mcg t3

good luck..
 
Anavar is cheap

anavar is cheap, I get them cheap 50mg caps 50 of them for 100 bucks. Thats not expensive at all. I think anavar is a killer steroid personaly.
 
I've run an all var cycle at 40mg/day when I was at 21%bf, with a strict diet it really helped lean me out and also helped me recopurate from a surgery faster that if I hadn't used it.
 
bump ...great thread!

+1 on var ...even though it's been years ...though at some point i'd like to give 75mg or more a whirl
 
Its pointless to simply state you should only use Tren or Winny instead of Anavar. These compouds do produce the kind of gains a typical var user would want (being ripped), but they come with much greater side effects. I for one absolutely loved Tren, but i lost so much hair when i came off that I just can't run the risk off using it again. At the same time I was on Tren, I was also using winny tabs so it could have been the winny that killed my hairline but I'm not about to take the risk. For me, Var is the logical choice, with some low dose Test E and Deca thrown in to the mix. Decent solid gains without the hairloss - its the future just like Garlic bread.
 
im sure ill hear it on this one but a few years back i had a script for btg and was expecting to notice some kind of difference between it and the var i had been using from various sources. mg for mg i didnt notice any difference and to be honest, i get better results from bd than i did from btg. i was getting the btg straight from a local pharmacy and at one point i actually was thinking it was fake.
 
bigjxxl said:
I loved it!!!!

The cholesteral issue concerns me though.

Does anyone have any good links on the effects Anavar has on cholesteral?
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This was my blood test on 50mg/var. HDL (good chol) was way out of range, therefore hdl/total chol ratio was also out of range. But LDL (bad chol) was within range and total chol was relatively low, 112.
So, it greatly impacts your HDL levels. I was ripped to the bone at this time
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00091ff.jpg
and without var, my chol (HDL) levels most likely would have been good.
 
what else was you using kingpin besides the Var? Did you HDL return to normal after discontinueing the Var and how long did it take to do so if it did?
 
THE ANAVAR THREAD SHOULD BE INFINITE THE SAME QUESTIONS POP UP YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, MONTH BY MONTH WITH DAY BY DAY QUESTIONS - IT IS REDUNTANT BUT VERY USEFUL - MAYBE A SEPERATE THREAD SHOULD BE DEDICATED....


chilledandy said:
what else was you using kingpin besides the Anavar - oxandrolone - ? Did you HDL return to normal after discontinueing the Var and how long did it take to do so if it did?
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Regarding cholesterol....
I don't think Var raises total cholesterol, but can knock your HDL and LDL profile out of balance. In most cases it causes a drop in HDL. But from what I've researched, it shouldn't raise your total cholesterol significantly, if at all.

In fact, I believe at one time Var was also looked at as a possible drug for those suffering from disorders of high cholesterol.
Early studies showed it to be capable of lowering total cholesterol and triglyceride values in certain types of hyperlipidemic patients, so it was initially thought to signify potential as a lipid lowering agent.
But with further investigation found that although it may actually be effective at lowering of total cholesterol values, it redistributes the ratio of HDL to LDL in an unfavorable direction.

I think anyone considering a Var cycle (or any other oral for that matter) would be wise to increase your intake of Omega 3 and run it alongside some cholesterol support supplements such as Niacin, Sytrinol, Plant Sterols, Tocotrienols..etc.
Basiclly anything which is going to help increase your HDL and block the proteins need to produce LDL.

I know some guys say they were running a cholesterol supplement on cycle and still had issues with their lipid profile. But TBH, most cholesterol supplements out there suck, contain bogus ingridients or are underdosed for this purpose.
 
it is overpriced .. but it is a great steriod .. for what it does anyways ..
 
I read all pages, and first of all, thanks to everyone.
I'm very concerned with hair loss, and as a "beginner" (only 16 months in bodybuild practice), I've big difficulties to gain weight despite 5 training/week (ectomorphic?), and I'd like to gain few pounds (even as little as 4/6 !) with a first oral cure.

Is anavar may fill my needs ?
 
eznokia said:
I read all pages, and first of all, thanks to everyone.
I'm very concerned with hair loss, and as a "beginner" (only 16 months in bodybuild practice), I've big difficulties to gain weight despite 5 training/week (ectomorphic?), and I'd like to gain few pounds (even as little as 4/6 !) with a first oral cure.

Is anavar may fill my needs ?
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It lowers your good cholesterol to unhealthy levels so be careful what you eat while you are taking it because you don't want clogged arteries or heart disease. I think that injectables are safer. Why not just take deca or npp (faster acting nandrolone)? It is the only steroid that does not promote hairloss (because it converts to dhn instead of dht).
 
bbkingpin said:
Why not just take deca or npp (faster acting nandrolone)? It is the only steroid that does not promote hairloss (because it converts to dhn instead of dht).
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I wasn't aware of. I'll have a closer look, thanks. For now, I already bought Anavar tabs. I'll start with 40mg ed for 6 weeks. Along with a good diete, could I expect 5/6 lbs ?
 
I'm gonna be running Anavar 30mg/ed for 8 weeks with Liv.52(liver) and Policosanol(cholesterol) on cycle..pct will be clomid (50/50/50/50) and then novedex xt (3 caps/ed)..cant wait!
 
ive been taking just 30mg in the morning of var the last 2 weeks and strength is noticeably higher while being in a relatively large calorie deficit ;)
 
k rock 12 said:
I'm gonna be running Anavar 30mg/ed for 8 weeks with Liv.52(liver) and Policosanol(cholesterol) on cycle..pct will be clomid (50/50/50/50) and then novedex xt (3 caps/ed)..cant wait!
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how did this work out ?
 
I'm going to get it soon after I finish my test/deca/dbol and adrol long bulking cycle to cut up the insane gains I've gotten...

I can get it for an insane deal. The guy says it's 100 capsule, 10mg each. Take two a day or three a day? I can get primobolan and winstrol 100 capsules for the same deal but anavar is the best cutting up gear according to you guys here...can't say the price because I'm sure that's against the rules here.
 
i ran across some "anavar" and i was hoping i could get some feedback. they are small like clen have a peachy color with sx scored on both sides. i put a pic but not too good. ne thoughts?
 
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Anavar is worth every penny for the amazing little things..

it cuts better than winstrol, with better strength gains, no joint problems and while being less toxic..

and the little effects like healing wounds faster and improve respiratory function..
 
ihulk,

I am trying to send you a PM but your message box is at it's limit. Would you please send me a message or empty it. Thanks.
 
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