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Thats It I'm trying Derma

Bruce

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So I am sick of all of this shit. I am going to use derma in my next pct. This is no joke, I am always honest and you all know that. I will run
900-1gram of primo 14 weeks
25mg dbols 1-10
tren ace 75mg eod 8-14
proviron 50mg ed throughout tren and as needed other times

pct will be hcg last few weeks of cycle till testes are back to size
one day after last shot of ace i will start
derma as directed. I will be running this in a month or so. i promise to give completely unbiased opinions. also if i am not recovering i will switch back over to clomid and aromasin just so you all know.


i will post pics if i am happy
 
Bruce said:
So I am sick of all of this shit. I am going to use derma in my next pct. This is no joke, I am always honest and you all know that. I will run
900-1gram of primo 14 weeks
25mg dbols 1-10
tren ace 75mg eod 8-14
proviron 50mg ed throughout tren and as needed other times

pct will be hcg last few weeks of cycle till testes are back to size
one day after last shot of ace i will start
derma as directed. I will be running this in a month or so. i promise to give completely unbiased opinions. also if i am not recovering i will switch back over to clomid and aromasin just so you all know.


i will post pics if i am happy

I am using it for pct in about 4 weeks. I am with you on this!
 
Bruce said:
So I am sick of all of this shit. I am going to use derma in my next pct. This is no joke, I am always honest and you all know that. I will run
900-1gram of primo 14 weeks
25mg dbols 1-10
tren ace 75mg eod 8-14
proviron 50mg ed throughout tren and as needed other times

pct will be hcg last few weeks of cycle till testes are back to size
one day after last shot of ace i will start
derma as directed. I will be running this in a month or so. i promise to give completely unbiased opinions. also if i am not recovering i will switch back over to clomid and aromasin just so you all know.


i will post pics if i am happy


bro u always say how u have been successful with prov and hcg followed with a little clomid.....if i were u i'd run the proviron and hcg for the last 2 weeks of ur cycle then drop the hcg and switch to clomid 50mg ed, 50mg proviron and DERMA at 5 pumps to the upper body in the am.........TRUST me bro i did this and it was UNREALLLLLL!!!! pm me bro because i have some things i can tell u that i'd rather not post here.
 
Stryker1992 said:
I am using it for pct in about 4 weeks. I am with you on this!
are you gonna use just derma witn no clomid or just add it. i am willing to try it with just derma but the clomid is on hand in case
 
Hey Bruce - good to see you still around. I just started my PCT a few days ago.... did HCG at the end of the cycle, now I'm just running Dermacrine (original formula) for 2 weeks then switching over to the new Sustain formula for a few more weeks. I figured I had nothing else to lose.... I'll start posting up some results and thoughts soon. Would be cool as hell if it works, clomid and nolva have left a bad taste in my mouth!
 
njmuscleguy said:
Hey Bruce - good to see you still around. I just started my PCT a few days ago.... did HCG at the end of the cycle, now I'm just running Dermacrine (original formula) for 2 weeks then switching over to the new Sustain formula for a few more weeks. I figured I had nothing else to lose.... I'll start posting up some results and thoughts soon. Would be cool as hell if it works, clomid and nolva have left a bad taste in my mouth!


u'll be back saying how good it works because it does and everyone who hasn't tried will be saying how full of shit u are!!!!
 
Bruce said:
So I am sick of all of this shit. I am going to use derma in my next pct. This is no joke, I am always honest and you all know that. I will run
900-1gram of primo 14 weeks
25mg dbols 1-10
tren ace 75mg eod 8-14
proviron 50mg ed throughout tren and as needed other times

pct will be hcg last few weeks of cycle till testes are back to size
one day after last shot of ace i will start
derma as directed. I will be running this in a month or so. i promise to give completely unbiased opinions. also if i am not recovering i will switch back over to clomid and aromasin just so you all know.


i will post pics if i am happy

What are you going to post pics of......your balls???
 
BigBlu said:
What are you going to post pics of......your balls???
no brother of the wings and the pipes. i'm not a big fan of showing my front, a. it sucks compared to my back lol
b. it shows some tats and i don't need people knowing who i am. already had that happen once.
 
I'm gonna be trying derma next week for PCT...I'll be sure to tell you guys how it is as well.

It's funny...people who have been on this board for a while now the people who would just be straight up and tell the truth regardless if it pisses anyone off or not.
 
I will be using the derma and derma sustain for my next pct in 8 more weeks my self to..I
used the derma boost as a stand alone test booster and it worked great for me now I will see how good it works for me as pct.I cant wait.

glad you are trying the derma bruce...
 
boston789 said:
I'm gonna be trying derma next week for PCT...I'll be sure to tell you guys how it is as well.

It's funny...people who have been on this board for a while now the people who would just be straight up and tell the truth regardless if it pisses anyone off or not.

shoot straight or keep ur mouth shut right????? lol haha....derma is good but u don't need it at all if u never come off :evil: :evil: this tren/mast/prop/igf cycle is F*CKIN ROCKIN!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :p
 
Vascular Freak said:
u'll be back saying how good it works because it does and everyone who hasn't tried will be saying how full of shit u are!!!!


I'll be posting either way, but I have a definite opinion so far and it's only 4 days into the derma regimen.... however, I won't be 100% convinced until I'm done with PCT and well-past it... if I still feel recovered at that point, then I'm convinced.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I'll be posting either way, but I have a definite opinion so far and it's only 4 days into the derma regimen.... however, I won't be 100% convinced until I'm done with PCT and well-past it... if I still feel recovered at that point, then I'm convinced.
as I understand you were not to happy with the other methods of pct right.
 
Yah, not happy is an understatement.... so I figured I had nothing to lose with trying derma as well as other products in the past.
 
my back has been mad fucked up. so i am having an mri tomorrow, i really want to lift but they want to make sure i don't have a herniated disc. if i'm all good i hop on
800mg primo 1-14
25mg dbols 1-10 maybe more
tren ace 75mg eod 8-12
proviron 50mg ed throuhout tren, rest of time as needed. after that i run hcg to bring testes back to size and i'm running the sustain after talking with Primordial. we will see how i recover. i have clomid and aromasin on hand if needed. i'm hoping i won't need to use them again. also hoping derma makes my loads like clomid
 
can't wait to hear your results bruh...I was considering throwing this into my next PCT as well. So the "sustain" version is the better choice for PCT purposes?
 
KOArtist said:
can't wait to hear your results bruh...I was considering throwing this into my next PCT as well. So the "sustain" version is the better choice for PCT purposes?

Yes, the new Sustain version is the way to go for PCT.

-Pp
 
Bruce said:
So I am sick of all of this shit. I am going to use derma in my next pct. This is no joke, I am always honest and you all know that. I will run
900-1gram of primo 14 weeks
25mg dbols 1-10
tren ace 75mg eod 8-14
proviron 50mg ed throughout tren and as needed other times

pct will be hcg last few weeks of cycle till testes are back to size
one day after last shot of ace i will start
derma as directed. I will be running this in a month or so. i promise to give completely unbiased opinions. also if i am not recovering i will switch back over to clomid and aromasin just so you all know.


i will post pics if i am happy


and one by one, they all fall down.
 
Stallbro said:
So you suggest using only Sustain for PCT? Nothing else needed?

For cycles longer than 6 weeks, users should run HCG with the sustain if it was not ran during cycle. But HCG should ALWAYS be ran during the cycle. 125-250iu EOD is all that is needed.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
For cycles longer than 6 weeks, users should run HCG with the sustain if it was not ran during cycle. But HCG should ALWAYS be ran during the cycle. 125-250iu EOD is all that is needed.

-Pp


Great news. So say on a 10wk cycle with HCG EOD when should you stop HCG and start Sustain?
 
Stallbro said:
Great news. So say on a 10wk cycle with HCG EOD when should you stop HCG and start Sustain?

Ill assume your running some enanthate...??

In that case, just your HCG till your last shot, then start the Derma Sustain a week after.

-Pp
 
Started using derma 6 days after my last shot of test enanthate and last shot of HCG. I am currently using 4 pumps per day with 50mg of clomid. Going to run the clomid for about 2 weeks and continue on the derma for another 2. I will keep everyone posted.
 
Bruce said:
800mg primo 1-14
25mg dbols 1-10 maybe more
tren ace 75mg eod 8-12
proviron 50mg ed

Bruce are you really running dbol for 10 weeks? Thats a long time on dbol.
 
yes i do not take bribes so you know. especially pentatonic, you are my boy come on man. you know i'm the first guy to be honest. if it does not work FOR ME i will post it and run my standard pct. i don't care if you suck my cock thru the computer with Giselle's mouth i won't fucking break my word, call me tony montana. i piss what it costs to get my gear so i have no reason to abandon regular ancillaries for sponsorship gear. i am frankly sick of the bullshit with everyone going at it over the product so i am gonna try it for myself. in no way will i let it go any amount of time without feeling recovered. i'll hop on proviron/clomid real quick, but i have good bros one here who have pmed me and had great results, some with derma and some with derma added to clomid proviron. these are people that i trust and know they have no reason to lie considering their knowledge and the amount of gear that they are able to afford all their things without worry. imo the only reason a person would come on here and lie about the abilitiy of a supp is if they are getting BRIBED as the good man above said.

as Max's question. yes i will run it for 25mg that long. nothing wrong with that. people are so scared to do that now. i have run winny for 6 months and would never do ti again but i was fine. dbol is much less harsh in reality on the body except for the liver and that is way overrated. the liver can take a hole lot
 
Bruce said:
yes i do not take bribes so you know. especially pentatonic, you are my boy come on man. you know i'm the first guy to be honest. if it does not work FOR ME i will post it and run my standard pct. i don't care if you suck my cock thru the computer with Giselle's mouth i won't fucking break my word, call me tony montana. i piss what it costs to get my gear so i have no reason to abandon regular ancillaries for sponsorship gear. i am frankly sick of the bullshit with everyone going at it over the product so i am gonna try it for myself. in no way will i let it go any amount of time without feeling recovered. i'll hop on proviron/clomid real quick, but i have good bros one here who have pmed me and had great results, some with derma and some with derma added to clomid proviron. these are people that i trust and know they have no reason to lie considering their knowledge and the amount of gear that they are able to afford all their things without worry. imo the only reason a person would come on here and lie about the abilitiy of a supp is if they are getting BRIBED as the good man above said.

as Max's question. yes i will run it for 25mg that long. nothing wrong with that. people are so scared to do that now. i have run winny for 6 months and would never do ti again but i was fine. dbol is much less harsh in reality on the body except for the liver and that is way overrated. the liver can take a hole lot
I still want to know who got bribed into saying any thing about any thing here.
 
needtogetaas said:
I still want to know who got bribed into saying any thing about any thing here.
no one is being singled out here man i am just saying i don't lie and i will not lie to the members no matter what.
 
Bruce said:
no one is being singled out here man i am just saying i don't lie and i will not lie to the members no matter what.
what's up playa how you livin'?
 
Bruce said:
yes i do not take bribes so you know. especially pentatonic, you are my boy come on man. you know i'm the first guy to be honest. if it does not work FOR ME i will post it and run my standard pct. i don't care if you suck my cock thru the computer with Giselle's mouth i won't fucking break my word, call me tony montana. i piss what it costs to get my gear so i have no reason to abandon regular ancillaries for sponsorship gear. i am frankly sick of the bullshit with everyone going at it over the product so i am gonna try it for myself.

I dunno, if somebody pulled that off I'd probly lie for their product.
 
Bruce said:
as Max's question. yes i will run it for 25mg that long. nothing wrong with that. people are so scared to do that now. i have run winny for 6 months and would never do ti again but i was fine. dbol is much less harsh in reality on the body except for the liver and that is way overrated. the liver can take a hole lot

I can't imagine Dbol is any worse than the amount of alcohol lots of people drink regularly. Hell I was on a cycle of 500-1000 mg of alcohol EOD my entire sophomore year of college, and I turned out just fine.
 
D_Mac said:
I can't imagine Dbol is any worse than the amount of alcohol lots of people drink regularly. Hell I was on a cycle of 500-1000 mg of alcohol EOD my entire sophomore year of college, and I turned out just fine.
thank you. yes i do not drink. when i had gall bladder surgery is when i decided to take juice because i saw like 10 surgeons to consult and furthermore discussion of recovery came up alot. i asked them for steroids and none would do it, however, when i asked what it would be comparable too the doctor said taking winny(which was what i wanted to take then) for 6 weeks was equal to a week of boozing each night which people do all the time. and i know many that booze every fucking night of their life and are in their late 60's. so no way is that amount of dbol gonna hurt me. also the thing about giselle, i'd lie about a product for that bj, but not to you bros. i take this shit very serious, its our lives we our playing with here, and i owe it to ya to tell the truth. regardless of supermodels worth over 100 mill giving me head thru the usb port of my laptop. lol


people do not seem to get that orals are gonna mess with cholesterol and lipids the most. i used to think that var and winny were better because they are milder and less toxic to the liver, however, dbol is much less harsh on the lipids and cholesterol so i prefer it now since i think liver is not an issue at all. bp will go up for me on dbol that is it. a bit of cardio which i do not do usually and grape juice post cycle and i'll be good to go. the only thing i will drink that has alchohol is red wine because it will help cardiovascular health and bp better than plain grape juice.
 
Bruce said:
thank you. yes i do not drink. when i had gall bladder surgery is when i decided to take juice because i saw like 10 surgeons to consult and furthermore discussion of recovery came up alot. i asked them for steroids and none would do it, however, when i asked what it would be comparable too the doctor said taking winny(which was what i wanted to take then) for 6 weeks was equal to a week of boozing each night which people do all the time. and i know many that booze every fucking night of their life and are in their late 60's. so no way is that amount of dbol gonna hurt me. also the thing about giselle, i'd lie about a product for that bj, but not to you bros. i take this shit very serious, its our lives we our playing with here, and i owe it to ya to tell the truth. regardless of supermodels worth over 100 mill giving me head thru the usb port of my laptop. lol


people do not seem to get that orals are gonna mess with cholesterol and lipids the most. i used to think that var and winny were better because they are milder and less toxic to the liver, however, dbol is much less harsh on the lipids and cholesterol so i prefer it now since i think liver is not an issue at all. bp will go up for me on dbol that is it. a bit of cardio which i do not do usually and grape juice post cycle and i'll be good to go. the only thing i will drink that has alchohol is red wine because it will help cardiovascular health and bp better than plain grape juice.


You also don't appear to have a problem with BF%, I stay away from the stuff for that purpose. For me all cycles are cutting cycles. But Dbol is fun stuff and I have enjoyed being on it in the past.
 
yea i have no probs with bf. on 500 enth 600 deca and 35mg dbol i just got puffy nips no bloat. guess i'm lucky with that. my nips are damn sensitive though
 
needtogetaas said:
I still want to know who got bribed into saying any thing about any thing here.

never said anyone did, nor do i know otherwise. just stating a fact. as far as cyberspace trust goes, bruce is in the small handfull that I consider trustworthy. thats all im saying.
 
So what's the update Bruce?
 
i decided not to do it after a lot of research. I don't doubt that it works but it has to be around ab it longer for me to try it out. i'm not a fan of switching the compound around after only a few months of it out. i don't like the info carth found true or false. so i am sticking with clomid for now. i am also not on right now at all. i am taking time off until i can really give it my all and i'm too busy right now. nj i know you liked it no? i am not saying i'm not gonna try it but i'm just coming off a short cycle i did not finish(once again) so i am sticking with what i know. sometime down the road i'm sure i'll hit up derma. when i can get a home gym going in a few months i will be back in full swing. then i'll see how you guys all did with it and make a decision. yes aifm was used for pct. it worked very well for a lot of guys. it also gave guys i know personally burn marks on their arms that will never go away. one guy has them on his ankles. very nasty stuff
 
Bruce said:
i decided not to do it after a lot of research. I don't doubt that it works but it has to be around ab it longer for me to try it out. i'm not a fan of switching the compound around after only a few months of it out. i don't like the info carth found true or false. so i am sticking with clomid for now. i am also not on right now at all. i am taking time off until i can really give it my all and i'm too busy right now. nj i know you liked it no? i am not saying i'm not gonna try it but i'm just coming off a short cycle i did not finish(once again) so i am sticking with what i know. sometime down the road i'm sure i'll hit up derma. when i can get a home gym going in a few months i will be back in full swing. then i'll see how you guys all did with it and make a decision. yes aifm was used for pct. it worked very well for a lot of guys. it also gave guys i know personally burn marks on their arms that will never go away. one guy has them on his ankles. very nasty stuff

funnny that you mention the burn marks.....mine are the same way and the skin gets dry there real quick and when i deadlift and my forearms rub against my pants it blleeds like a mofo...the skin rubs off easy....i don't use it anymore anyway..don't need it
 
I'd run it, especially if you had a short cycle...

the sustain works wonders.. And i've run clomid/nolva 5 times and have the impaired eyesight to prove it..

just my experience though..
 
Bruce said:
i decided not to do it after a lot of research. I don't doubt that it works but it has to be around ab it longer for me to try it out. i'm not a fan of switching the compound around after only a few months of it out. i don't like the info carth found true or false. so i am sticking with clomid for now. i am also not on right now at all. i am taking time off until i can really give it my all and i'm too busy right now. nj i know you liked it no? i am not saying i'm not gonna try it but i'm just coming off a short cycle i did not finish(once again) so i am sticking with what i know. sometime down the road i'm sure i'll hit up derma. when i can get a home gym going in a few months i will be back in full swing. then i'll see how you guys all did with it and make a decision. yes aifm was used for pct. it worked very well for a lot of guys. it also gave guys i know personally burn marks on their arms that will never go away. one guy has them on his ankles. very nasty stuff

I just finished my run with Sustain & Derma... the short answer is I do think it works, it helped me avoid a really bad crash, however, it only allowed me to recover about as much as my body will allow naturally, which is lower in comparison to others (but that's not Sustain's fault, that's just my body).
definitely think it's worth a try. I had no issues with rashes or burns, etc.
 
Bruce said:
i decided not to do it after a lot of research. I don't doubt that it works but it has to be around ab it longer for me to try it out. i'm not a fan of switching the compound around after only a few months of it out. i don't like the info carth found true or false. so i am sticking with clomid for now. i am also not on right now at all. i am taking time off until i can really give it my all and i'm too busy right now. nj i know you liked it no? i am not saying i'm not gonna try it but i'm just coming off a short cycle i did not finish(once again) so i am sticking with what i know. sometime down the road i'm sure i'll hit up derma. when i can get a home gym going in a few months i will be back in full swing. then i'll see how you guys all did with it and make a decision. yes aifm was used for pct. it worked very well for a lot of guys. it also gave guys i know personally burn marks on their arms that will never go away. one guy has them on his ankles. very nasty stuff


ya remember the first AIFM batch, lol, that sheezy was burning one dudes skin off he got 2nd degree burns or some shit. He had some nasty lookin toe nails to go with it..but.. Once they figured it out thought, the next batch of aifm was legit. Custom caps, derma, sorry folks you had to be circle jerk pimped without asking by ef's supertard.
 
DBBT said:
ya remember the first AIFM batch, lol, that sheezy was burning one dudes skin off he got 2nd degree burns or some shit. He had some nasty lookin toe nails to go with it..but.. Once they figured it out thought, the next batch of aifm was legit. Custom caps, derma, sorry folks you had to be circle jerk pimped without asking by ef's supertard.
lol fucking hater...i got you bro.last time.
 
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