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That Puke-ing feeling? What causes it?

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What causes that feeling of nausea? In the last six months, everytime I workout, I start feeling sick in the stomach. Every time. How to prevent it? Tried AM workout, PM workout, empty stomach, a little food. Don't want to reduce intensity.

Is it due to lactic acid buildup? Low blood sugar? Am I just getting old?
 
I'd have to take a wild guess and say low blood sugar... and possibly having difficulty getting enough oxygen to your muscles...
try taking some iron to increase the ammount of oxygen each blood cell can carry.
 
I've never had it lifting weights, and its not because I don't work hard enough. I don't think its something to be proud of - more a sign of something wrong preparation/nutrition-wise. It can definately be avoided when lifting.

However, I've had it when playing soccer. I get to the point where I simply can't replace the nutrients/fluids I'm using because of limited stopages in the game and lack of rest between repeated maxmimal efforts.

Try and get your diet and pre/during workout nutrition sorted. Low-GI, high-fibre carbs and a reasonable amount of protein is my choice leading up to a workout.
 
Your body sets a priortiy to where it's oxygen supplies go to. If you are lifting a large muscle group such as quads the body is going to devote its oxygen resources to that muscle and to your brain first. If you push things hard it takes it away from non vital organs such as your stomach, hence your nausia. If you take it to the next level your body can get to the point where it no longer has the resources to send oxygen to your brain thus you feel light headed things go black and you can even pass out.

Hope this explains things
 
I think it has something to do with genetics to be honest.

I have a friend who will puke after almost every intense workout, sometimes multiple times. I train just as hard if not harder than him, but I never get nauseaous. I've done some crazy ass sets of squats that made me dizzy enough to have to lie down, but I've never felt like throwing up. Unfortunately, I don't really have any suggestions, it might just be something you have to live with like my friend does.

Do you think it could be that you've stepped up the intensity in the last 6 months to a level above what you had previously done?

Biologically, as DrBones said it may have something to do with lack of oxygen. Make sure you're breathing really well and taking in some fluids during your workout. Gatorade or a sports drink seems to help my friend, I don't really know why. It may have to do with the sugar, or the salt in the drink.

Sorry I can't help you more.
 
I'll try sipping a carb drink while working out next time. Actually, my family has a history of anemia (maternal) side. Guess it's time for a blood test.

The lightheadedness isn't anything new, especially after heavy squats or deads. The nausea is.

Hmmm...all pointing to something to get checked out.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
 
The above answers are WRONG. Nausea while lifting weights (to the point of puking) is caused by one thing and one thing only - growth hormone release. Your body releases GH in response to exercise. The GH release makes you feel sick and want to puke. Believe it or not it is one of the best things that can happen to you.

GH starts to shut down after about the age of 35. That is why people top out in their sports at 35 usually.

I'm 44. I don't normally get "sick" if I lift. If I take a GH releasing secretagog... I want to puke after every set.
 
The GH thing is bullshit... your body does not release enough GH in the middle of your set of squats to make you nausious. Use your brain and think about it for a second. Have any of you every taken human anatomy and physiology. It is all explained there. GH makes your head light and your stomach upset,,, bwaaa haha.. I mean come on for real. Then all these pros shooting 20 IUs a day would be passing out and puking. Use some logic for one time. Hold your breath one time for as long as you can and I bet you get the same feeling. It is called oxygen deprevation.
 
bigp3 said:
The GH thing is bullshit... your body does not release enough GH in the middle of your set of squats to make you nausious. Use your brain and think about it for a second. Have any of you every taken human anatomy and physiology. It is all explained there. GH makes your head light and your stomach upset,,, bwaaa haha.. I mean come on for real. Then all these pros shooting 20 IUs a day would be passing out and puking. Use some logic for one time. Hold your breath one time for as long as you can and I bet you get the same feeling. It is called oxygen deprevation.

You are wrong... and you are NOT an authority on this subject.
 
did not claim to be an authority,,, but show me some scientific lit on it stating where it is wrong and I will bow down and admit you were right. I have asked my doctor this question before and he explained it to me just the way I did and the same goes for what I learned in anatomy class many years ago. Not trying to piss you off bro,,, sorry if you took offense,,, I guess my post was a little condescending... but, that is what I have learned over the years and this was the first time I have ever heard anyone say it was nausia from GH. Trust me,,, I am not some dumb kid like half the people on this board.
 
bigp3 said:
did not claim to be an authority,,, but show me some scientific lit on it stating where it is wrong and I will bow down and admit you were right. I have asked my doctor this question before and he explained it to me just the way I did and the same goes for what I learned in anatomy class many years ago. Not trying to piss you off bro,,, sorry if you took offense,,, I guess my post was a little condescending... but, that is what I have learned over the years and this was the first time I have ever heard anyone say it was nausia from GH. Trust me,,, I am not some dumb kid like half the people on this board.

Bro, I work on a daily basis with the top medical researchers in the world. I don't have time to give you a full education on secretagogues and what is happening today in GH releaser research, but suffice to say - if you bother reading about GH release in response to exercise you will find the "nausea" effect well documented. One of the noted side effects of GH and GH releasers that goes into every FDA submission approaching a PMA is the same side effect - nausea.

One of the interesting anecdotes about this is many kids stop working out because of the nausea. The effect subsides after years of training. It is still noticed into the mid-30s when GH release in response to exercise begins to wain.
 
I know this is out in left feild but... here goes...

I used to get light headed EVERY workout. So much so, that I had to lay down during the wo or I`d pass out. This happened for years.

Until then I`ve not taken any supplements. Istarted taking creatine with a couple of other things protein, some type of pills etc. stack from a nutrition mag. but my point is the creatine made me stop getting light headed.

THE CREATINE MADE ME STOP GETTING LIGHT HEADED. I know you guys are like wtf??? but I was a happy dude going from dizziness EVERY wo to nothing. It was great.

I know this is NOT the answer but that`s just my experience and may have been deficient in something . I fell in love with the stuff from that day on. lol
ok I`m done.
 
Sofa I am not trying to rip you or debate the fact that GH release can cause nausia. But I have serious doubts that enough is being released during a set of squats to cause this reaction and furthermore it is a fact that oxygen dep. cuases nausia and light headedness. When you are in the middle of your set of squats blood is rushing to the muscle. Wouldn't you agree to that fact? What happens when blood rushes to such a large muscle group. It is taken away from somewhere else. I.E. non essential organs such as the stomach etc. Thus causing light headedness and nausia. I am not trying to be a bitch and discount your argument. I think we may have to agree to disagree on that fact. Just think,,, maybe it is a combination of factors and not just one thing.
 
I used to get pretty nauseous when I'd work out. Now I make sure to eat a lot beforehand. Seems to do the trick (except I get heartburn often, especially with bananas).
 
A lot of times I feel like puking before I go to the gym. Maybe just nerves or adrenalin or something.
 
perhaps some confounding factors anyone?

I have always heard that its relative to lactic acid buildup and intolerance to lactic acid, and/or blood sugar levels
 
more than likely it is a combination of things that results in an overload to your body that cuases it to lash back. THe more I think about it,,, it is more than likely all these factors thrown in together.
 
Just a few more thoughts...

1) Simple anxiety.

2) Yep, dehydration.

2) Slowed gastric emptying and blood shunting. Let's say exercise and digestion are competing for blood. Exercise wins and what hasn't left the stomach want to go somewhere.

3) Mucous membranes of the stomach lining could become irrated from it's contents sloshing around. Usually attributed to running or cycling, but still a possibility with weight training.

4) And lowered pH from exercise. Hmm...acidity! Let's the say the body is unable to buffer the acids, then nausea is a likely course of action.
 
pwr machine, your idea sounds solid to me,,,, I agree and don't think you can pinpoint it to just one thing
 
i believe sofa, somtimes i wanna puke after fucking.

Maybe you should up your standards ;)

Just kidding, I don't 'think' theres GH release after sex, testerone yes. It is a combination of everything, but scientific studies have shown that GH and testosterone are released under certain conditions during a workout (reps/sets/rest period/% of ORM etc) sometimes when I wake up from deep sleep (which is very unhealthy) I get the same feeling as when I do something really heavy in the gym. (Both GH release) But when I workout hungry of if I didn't breathe during deadlift and squats (last thing I'm thinking about) I get the nausea too, it happens randomly. There's nothing wrong with it though :) an endorphin high isn't too far away.
 
It has also been my experience that when going from one excercise to another in a "circuit training" type fashion, I am more apt to get light headed. This would give more truth to the "blood flow" theory.
Try doing Squats then go to pullups then do dips etc. I could get dizzy doing that. I think it`s from blood flow and blood pooling efficiencies/deficiencies.

Another one from left field- Does the "fight or flight" syndrome have anything to do with this? I used to get that at the dentist when given a shot with epinepherine (sp?) the doc used to tell me "all the blood pools in your legs" and you get sick.
 
pwr_machine said:
Just a few more thoughts...



2) Slowed gastric emptying and blood shunting. Let's say exercise and digestion are competing for blood. Exercise wins and what hasn't left the stomach want to go somewhere.


Anytime I get sick to mt stomach it is the timing or content of the days meals. Maybe I have been lifting too long to notice the gh thing but I can never remember being sick unless I ate too close to a workout, or too much, or a crappy meal ect.
 
IronLion said:


Anytime I get sick to mt stomach it is the timing or content of the days meals. Maybe I have been lifting too long to notice the gh thing but I can never remember being sick unless I ate too close to a workout, or too much, or a crappy meal ect.

Profound nausea in response to GH release from exercise subsides in high level athletes - unless you take a GH releaser prior to a workout.

I've got a very interesting GH releaser in my freezer. If you want to grab a dose while you are in town you can have a unique experience next leg day. :)
 
pwr_machine said:
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2) Slowed gastric emptying and blood shunting. Let's say exercise and digestion are competing for blood. Exercise wins and what hasn't left the stomach want to go somewhere.



I'm guessing for me, this is what causes most of the puking feelings.

which, is why I try not to squat after i've just eaten.
 
1 more thing about the gh release that I just remembered....

I had a strength coach that was convinced that if you woke up three to four hours before you were used to getting up in the am then your gh levels would be at their highest thus providing a great hormonal base for a hypertrophic workout.

So for about two months I would go in and train at 5:00 am on Saturdays and do a very DC like routine, entire body workout, one set per exercise and all exercises to failure....I would be very, very sick by midway through....so I guess high levels of gh would make you sick, if his theory was right

This leads me to my next question, how do people taking high levels of exogenous growth hormone keep their cookies during a workout?
 
SofaGeorge said:


Profound nausea in response to GH release from exercise subsides in high level athletes - unless you take a GH releaser prior to a workout.

I've got a very interesting GH releaser in my freezer. If you want to grab a dose while you are in town you can have a unique experience next leg day. :)

just because (if indeed it does) nausea correlates with gh release, that doesn't mean one necessarily causes the other.

just some basic statistics to keep in mind.
 
IronLion said:
Anytime I get sick to mt stomach it is the timing or content of the days meals. Maybe I have been lifting too long to notice the gh thing but I can never remember being sick unless I ate too close to a workout, or too much, or a crappy meal ect.

Yep, I'm exactly the same, as I said above.
 
SofaGeorge said:
Profound nausea in response to GH release from exercise subsides in high level athletes - unless you take a GH releaser prior to a workout.

I'm not exactly a "high level athlete", but my energy systems are very well trained for indoor soccer. I think I've built up a high lactate tolerance to allow me to maximise my genetically pathetic VO2 max. And I've got decent sports specific endurance...
 
IronLion said:
is vo2 max genetically determined? I thought it was trainable?

It is trainable, but not the key thing you want to be training in order to improve endurance. Anybody who is decently aerobically active is probably near to the ceiling that is genetically placed on their VO2 max, although there will be slight room for improvement nonetheless.

What you can train to get the most benefit is your ability to prolong output close to your VO2 max, rather than actually improve it. That's the key to endurance and aerobic athletes' performance.
 
all I know is that when I had mine tested in college I had to quit not because I was failing but because the freaking darth vader mask made me feel like I was suffocating...lol
 
VO2 max is completely irrelevant to a football player. I find it odd that they'd even test for that.

I've only ever done the 20m shuttle run ("beep test"). My results are very similar now to what they were when I was an overweight and untrained 15 year old. Obviously there is a difference, but its not very substantial.
 
The kinesiology dept. was doing a cross sectional study on al the different sports, so they tested body comp, vo2 max and ekg stuff i don't understand. All I know is my vo2 was the highest of anyone they had tested, i'll go eat a cookie now.
 
Zander1983 said:
What you can train to get the most benefit is your ability to prolong output close to your VO2 max, rather than actually improve it. That's the key to endurance and aerobic athletes' performance.

So everyone's on the same page...VO2 = oxygen consumption and of course it can be trained! It can increase tremendously with training!
 
Hmm, my reading would suggest otherwise. Of course it can be trained, but not "tremendously". I could be very wrong though :)
 
Zander1983 said:
Hmm, my reading would suggest otherwise. Of course it can be trained, but not "tremendously". I could be very wrong though :)

doubt it bro. I've read similar things as you, from charlie francis i think but don't recall for sure.

what you've said again points to lactic acid build up and how well you tolerate it.
 
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