Testosterone Levels At 272 ng/dl??

[gymrat surfer]

So I got my blood work in and haven't juiced in 5 years and getting ready to do my next cycle for the new year.

My normal testosterone levels came in at 272 ng/DL

What does that mean? Doesn't seem good!! Thanks!

 

[cgar1228]

So I got my blood work in and haven't juiced in 5 years and getting ready to do my next cycle for the new year.

My normal testosterone levels came in at 272 ng/DL

What does that mean? Doesn't seem good!! Thanks!

Definitely not good! after my cycle i was at 290 and felt extremely suppressed (libido wise). I would work on doing another PCT as I did and getting your levels up before starting another cycle. If you don't mind me asking, how old ru? have you noticed reduced libido in the last couple years?

If you are interested in getting your test levels back up before starting your cycle then let me know I'll help you out. This will take about 8-10 wks bro so you will need to hold off on the cycle. I'm almost positive that this protocol helped get me back to normal. I don't have bloods to prove it yet but will get those in about a week.

 

[RADAR]

Thats low.I would wait until after the cycle to get your levels back up,Whats the point in doing it now when you're getting ready to suppress them by running another cycle.

 

[cgar1228]

Thats low.I would wait until after the cycle to get your levels back up,Whats the point in doing it now when you're getting ready to suppress them by running another cycle.

this is true.... i guess i'm doing it this way b/c I want to see if i can recover to pre-cycle levels so I know what works next time I cycle. 3 pcts later i think i have it down...

 

[gymrat surfer]

I am 29 Years old. Keep in mind, i haven't juiced in 5 years!!! Back then when I was juicing, I definitely was abusing it and did tons of cycles. Guess I am still paying the price to this day. So you really think I should do a PCT after 5 years of being off? Interesting...

 

[cgar1228]

I am 29 Years old. Keep in mind, i haven't juiced in 5 years!!! Back then when I was juicing, I definitely was abusing it and did tons of cycles. Guess I am still paying the price to this day. So you really think I should do a PCT after 5 years of being off? Interesting...

I think Radar has pretty good advice up there but I was just trying to give you the safe route. If you are suggesting that it would be impossible to recover when you haven't touched roids in 5 years then you are wrong.... There are studies showing that Clomid pulled male samples out of suppression from steroids after years since their cycles. The typical increase in Testosterone was 250%. This would help you bump your natural Test up to around 680 give or take. Then again, I'm not sure what your levels were at before you started cycling so it could very well be that you have naturally low testosterone.... This is why I asked you the questions I did above. Let me know the answer to the second question I asked. Give me something to work with here bro, i'm here to help...

 

[shibs]

You know you can go over your results with your doc, that's what they're there for.

 

[RADAR]

I am 29 Years old. Keep in mind, i haven't juiced in 5 years!!! Back then when I was juicing, I definitely was abusing it and did tons of cycles. Guess I am still paying the price to this day. So you really think I should do a PCT after 5 years of being off? Interesting...

My friend ,if you want to do another cycle then go ahead,I work at the local hospital and when you get ready for recovery i can help you out of the rut you're in.

 

[gymrat surfer]

have you noticed reduced libido in the last couple years?

I would have to say yes. Also, my loads are very small and still have ball shrinkage. When i came off year ago, I did take clomid. Also, my FSH was high at 14.4, LH at 4.2 and estradiol at 33.5.

 

[cgar1228]

I would have to say yes. Also, my loads are very small and still have ball shrinkage. When i came off year ago, I did take clomid. Also, my FSH was high at 14.4, LH at 4.2 and estradiol at 33.5.

Thanks for the information. Your estrogen is pretty high and that could be one of the reasons your testosterone is low. If I were you and thinking about doing a cycle then I would take Radar's advice and let him guide you back out of suppression after the cycle is over. If you don't want to start your cycle right away then get some HCGenerate and most importantly Forma Stanzol. You can try out the new Phytoserms as well (looks very promising), all of these will help your libido, help raise your testosterone, and lower your estrogen levels.

Also if you decide to do a cycle then please please do yourself a favor and use HCG during the cycle to prevent further atrophy. 2X a wk at 250iu per shot. Post up and let me know what you decide.

 

[gymrat surfer]

My friend ,if you want to do another cycle then go ahead,I work at the local hospital and when you get ready for recovery i can help you out of the rut you're in.

Will do Radar, thanks!

If I were you and thinking about doing a cycle then I would take Radar's advice and let him guide you back out of suppression after the cycle is over. If you don't want to start your cycle right away then get some HCGenerate and most importantly Forma Stanzol.

do yourself a favor and use HCG during the cycle to prevent further atrophy. 2X a wk at 250iu per shot. Post up and let me know what you decide.

Will do that to Cgar, Thanks!

Here's my personalized game plan for January 2011 (Thanks NTBM!)...

1-15 test-e 250 twice a week monday and THursday
1-14 eq 400mg inject monday 200mg inject thusday
1-15 hcg 500ius twice a week
8-16 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
1-15 run 5 cap of n2guard every day all the way through.
1-4 beastdrol 3 caps every day ( do not have to but would like it)

pct
15-20 forma-stanzol pumps am and pm
15-19 clomid 25mg ed
15-20 post cycle 3 caps every day

 

[stevesmi]

this is why you guys in your early 20's have no business running cycles. i doubt you will ever recover. sounds like you screwed yourself up for life. thats the reality.

your body is producing test on its own, just not very much. i dunno why you waited 5 years to do a blood test. could of known this 5 years ago and ran an aggressive PCT immediately. hopefully someone is reading this thread and learns from your mistake.

I guarantee you ran hard cycles back to back to back and never came off in reality. you didn't give your body a chance to recover. lots of young dudes seem to do this and dont think about the consequences.

I would go see an endo pronto. tell him you abused steroids as a kid and you would like his opinion on what you should do.

 

[cgar1228]

this is why you guys in your early 20's have no business running cycles. i doubt you will ever recover. sounds like you screwed yourself up for life. thats the reality.

your body is producing test on its own, just not very much. i dunno why you waited 5 years to do a blood test. could of known this 5 years ago and ran an aggressive PCT immediately. hopefully someone is reading this thread and learns from your mistake.

I guarantee you ran hard cycles back to back to back and never came off in reality. you didn't give your body a chance to recover. lots of young dudes seem to do this and dont think about the consequences.

I would go see an endo pronto. tell him you abused steroids as a kid and you would like his opinion on what you should do.

The endo I saw doesn't know shit about recovery from steroids. The only terms he knows is natural recovery (which was not working for me) and TRT (bad advice for me being so young). I would rather take advice from some of the guys on here that have experience with recovery like Radar, and use their protocols. The fugging endo didn't even know what deca/nandrolone/deca durabolin was....what a douche.

1-15 test-e 250 twice a week monday and THursday
1-14 eq 400mg inject monday 200mg inject thusday
1-15 hcg 500ius twice a week
8-16 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
1-15 run 5 cap of n2guard every day all the way through.
1-4 beastdrol 3 caps every day ( do not have to but would like it)
1-15 either Aromasin or Forma..

pct
15-20 (16-24) forma-stanzol pumps am and pm
15-19 (16-20) clomid 25mg 50mg ED (also start first couple days on 100mg)
15-20 (16-21) post cycle 3 caps every day

Ok, your cycle actually looks pretty good bro. It def looks like someone put it together for you. You've got the right idea here but 'me thinks' you should start PCT AFTER the testosterone from you last injection is out of your system....otherwise you won't be in recovery mode. From your last test-e shot you should probably wait 1.5 wks to start PCT.

I think your problem with Clomid the first time around was that you either didn't use it long enough or the dose was too low. Although it seems that your HPTA is functioning well b/c of the high FSH/LH production you have which wouldn't be the case if your HPTA was shut down.....

Also you are using quite a bit of HCG on cycle which is known to cause gyno in some cases so you might want to bump that down ESPECIALLY if you notice a lot of bloating or sensative nips (signs of early gyno). ALSO you need to run an AI like Aromasin at about 12.5mg per day to keep the aromatising estrogen at bay. If N2 designed this cycle for you then I'm surprised he didn't suggest Forma-Stanzol on-cycle b/c this would take the place of Aromasin. I am using it now and it does work.

If you are confused about any of this then please speak up bro.

 

[stevesmi]

I agree ^^^^ most dont know shit.

the only reason i suggested an endo is because its been 5 years and he is still not recovered. I think his options are trying a strong PCT and then seeing where he is at. if that fails then he may just need to either deal with his low levels or get a script. even though they are morons they have the power to write us a script.

I also agree if he tries lowering his estrogen that could tip the balance of things in his favor.

working out (especially squats, deadlifts), staying away from estrogen forming foods/drinks like alcohol for example. could be all he needs to do to get things going the right direction.

what bothers me is the 5 years thing. if he has been off 6 months its one thing.. but 5 years is scary.. i think his HPTA is permanently damaged

 

[mikevegas]

this is why you guys in your early 20's have no business running cycles. i doubt you will ever recover. sounds like you screwed yourself up for life. thats the reality.

your body is producing test on its own, just not very much. i dunno why you waited 5 years to do a blood test. could of known this 5 years ago and ran an aggressive PCT immediately. hopefully someone is reading this thread and learns from your mistake.

I guarantee you ran hard cycles back to back to back and never came off in reality. you didn't give your body a chance to recover. lots of young dudes seem to do this and dont think about the consequences.

I would go see an endo pronto. tell him you abused steroids as a kid and you would like his opinion on what you should do.

My vote for most non helpful post of the year. And seriously, it's fine to tank your own test production thru steriod use in your 30's, because you don't want to have sex then? At 40 I might as well just cut my balls off all together?

The other advices in here are good. I agree with the 500iu twice per week HCG on cycle vs. 250 is the only thing I saw. I've run steroids on and off since 16, and I've had test readings between 550-900 over those years post cycle. We have know idea for certain why you are so low. Just keep reviewing as many PCT posts in here as your eyeballs can handle, I always find new tidbits and good ideas here and there, even after years of studying this. Keep readin' bro.

 

[RADAR]

Thanks for the information. Your estrogen is pretty high and that could be one of the reasons your testosterone is low. If I were you and thinking about doing a cycle then I would take Radar's advice and let him guide you back out of suppression after the cycle is over. If you don't want to start your cycle right away then get some HCGenerate and most importantly Forma Stanzol. You can try out the new Phytoserms as well (looks very promising), all of these will help your libido, help raise your testosterone, and lower your estrogen levels.

Also if you decide to do a cycle then please please do yourself a favor and use HCG during the cycle to prevent further atrophy. 2X a wk at 250iu per shot. Post up and let me know what you decide.

Good advice here!

 

[RADAR]

I agree ^^^^ most dont know shit.

the only reason i suggested an endo is because its been 5 years and he is still not recovered. I think his options are trying a strong PCT and then seeing where he is at. if that fails then he may just need to either deal with his low levels or get a script. even though they are morons they have the power to write us a script.

I also agree if he tries lowering his estrogen that could tip the balance of things in his favor.

working out (especially squats, deadlifts), staying away from estrogen forming foods/drinks like alcohol for example. could be all he needs to do to get things going the right direction.

what bothers me is the 5 years thing. if he has been off 6 months its one thing.. but 5 years is scary.. i think his HPTA is permanently damaged

Steve is correct,however even after 5 yrs we can still tilt things in our favor, just remember it took 5 years to screw things up so don't expect things to happen overnight.But as i have said ,it's doable!

 

[C.K.]

Ya some people just just naturally have low test...

 

[gymrat surfer]

Just cracked open my bottle of HCgenerate! I will use it for 1 month before I begin my cycle. What do you guys think?

Also, there is something I have to admit that could play a role into my high estrogen levels and low test levels. For the last 5 years and beyond, I have smoked lots of marijuana as it is legal for me (have my medical card) which I know is dumb and contradicts fitness, bodybuilding and overall health.

Yes I have saw the light (thank god!) 2 months ago and have been clean since and threw away all my paraphernalia. As I have been cold turkey for 2 months and plan to never use ever again, I am wondering if that has also played a huge role into my test results.

 

[RADAR]

Just cracked open my bottle of HCgenerate! I will use it for 1 month before I begin my cycle. What do you guys think?

Also, there is something I have to admit that could play a role into my high estrogen levels and low test levels. For the last 5 years and beyond, I have smoked lots of marijuana as it is legal for me (have my medical card) which I know is dumb and contradicts fitness, bodybuilding and overall health.

Yes I have saw the light (thank god!) 2 months ago and have been clean since and threw away all my paraphernalia. As I have been cold turkey for 2 months and plan to never use ever again, I am wondering if that has also played a huge role into my test results.

I highly doubt it ,I see alot of Blood tests and theres no evidence that states smoking pot will play a role in the results,alot of members here remember Quadsweep ,he was a heavy user of MJ and competed often.

 

[JoeC212]

I am having a very similar problem. Its been 6 yrs since the last time i did a cycle (back in the day I also abused cycles, and also did them improperly without taking necessary steps during and post cycle to keep my body functioning normally). In the past few months I've noticed that I have very low libido/no energy/suppressed mood/ED, so i went to the doctor and got my levels checked and I am way down into the mid 300 level as well.

Im not about to do another cycle bc I dont workout as much anmore, but I would REALLY appreciate any info on how to do a PCT correctly to fix this problem if it's not too late. The doctor was no help b/c technically mid 300's falls inside the normal range of 241-827.

If anyone can help me with information I would appreciate it.

 

[mexico2509]

try a different doctor depending on your age im 28 and my natty level is only 310.... f'n gay.... anyhow once i get off this cycle i just started im gonna find me a good doc to put me on HRT... it sucks but im tired of not having the libido i once did i have always had low test though even before AAS i was only like 340 when i was 24 and clean.... FML ohh well test for life here i come!