Testosterone Levels At 272 ng/dl??

[gymrat surfer]

My friend ,if you want to do another cycle then go ahead,I work at the local hospital and when you get ready for recovery i can help you out of the rut you're in.

Will do Radar, thanks!

If I were you and thinking about doing a cycle then I would take Radar's advice and let him guide you back out of suppression after the cycle is over. If you don't want to start your cycle right away then get some HCGenerate and most importantly Forma Stanzol.

do yourself a favor and use HCG during the cycle to prevent further atrophy. 2X a wk at 250iu per shot. Post up and let me know what you decide.

Will do that to Cgar, Thanks!

Here's my personalized game plan for January 2011 (Thanks NTBM!)...

1-15 test-e 250 twice a week monday and THursday
1-14 eq 400mg inject monday 200mg inject thusday
1-15 hcg 500ius twice a week
8-16 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
1-15 run 5 cap of n2guard every day all the way through.
1-4 beastdrol 3 caps every day ( do not have to but would like it)

pct
15-20 forma-stanzol pumps am and pm
15-19 clomid 25mg ed
15-20 post cycle 3 caps every day

 

[stevesmi]

this is why you guys in your early 20's have no business running cycles. i doubt you will ever recover. sounds like you screwed yourself up for life. thats the reality.

your body is producing test on its own, just not very much. i dunno why you waited 5 years to do a blood test. could of known this 5 years ago and ran an aggressive PCT immediately. hopefully someone is reading this thread and learns from your mistake.

I guarantee you ran hard cycles back to back to back and never came off in reality. you didn't give your body a chance to recover. lots of young dudes seem to do this and dont think about the consequences.

I would go see an endo pronto. tell him you abused steroids as a kid and you would like his opinion on what you should do.

 

[cgar1228]

this is why you guys in your early 20's have no business running cycles. i doubt you will ever recover. sounds like you screwed yourself up for life. thats the reality.

your body is producing test on its own, just not very much. i dunno why you waited 5 years to do a blood test. could of known this 5 years ago and ran an aggressive PCT immediately. hopefully someone is reading this thread and learns from your mistake.

I guarantee you ran hard cycles back to back to back and never came off in reality. you didn't give your body a chance to recover. lots of young dudes seem to do this and dont think about the consequences.

I would go see an endo pronto. tell him you abused steroids as a kid and you would like his opinion on what you should do.

The endo I saw doesn't know shit about recovery from steroids. The only terms he knows is natural recovery (which was not working for me) and TRT (bad advice for me being so young). I would rather take advice from some of the guys on here that have experience with recovery like Radar, and use their protocols. The fugging endo didn't even know what deca/nandrolone/deca durabolin was....what a douche.

1-15 test-e 250 twice a week monday and THursday
1-14 eq 400mg inject monday 200mg inject thusday
1-15 hcg 500ius twice a week
8-16 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
1-15 run 5 cap of n2guard every day all the way through.
1-4 beastdrol 3 caps every day ( do not have to but would like it)
1-15 either Aromasin or Forma..

pct
15-20 (16-24) forma-stanzol pumps am and pm
15-19 (16-20) clomid 25mg 50mg ED (also start first couple days on 100mg)
15-20 (16-21) post cycle 3 caps every day

Ok, your cycle actually looks pretty good bro. It def looks like someone put it together for you. You've got the right idea here but 'me thinks' you should start PCT AFTER the testosterone from you last injection is out of your system....otherwise you won't be in recovery mode. From your last test-e shot you should probably wait 1.5 wks to start PCT.

I think your problem with Clomid the first time around was that you either didn't use it long enough or the dose was too low. Although it seems that your HPTA is functioning well b/c of the high FSH/LH production you have which wouldn't be the case if your HPTA was shut down.....

Also you are using quite a bit of HCG on cycle which is known to cause gyno in some cases so you might want to bump that down ESPECIALLY if you notice a lot of bloating or sensative nips (signs of early gyno). ALSO you need to run an AI like Aromasin at about 12.5mg per day to keep the aromatising estrogen at bay. If N2 designed this cycle for you then I'm surprised he didn't suggest Forma-Stanzol on-cycle b/c this would take the place of Aromasin. I am using it now and it does work.

If you are confused about any of this then please speak up bro.

 

[stevesmi]

I agree ^^^^ most dont know shit.

the only reason i suggested an endo is because its been 5 years and he is still not recovered. I think his options are trying a strong PCT and then seeing where he is at. if that fails then he may just need to either deal with his low levels or get a script. even though they are morons they have the power to write us a script.

I also agree if he tries lowering his estrogen that could tip the balance of things in his favor.

working out (especially squats, deadlifts), staying away from estrogen forming foods/drinks like alcohol for example. could be all he needs to do to get things going the right direction.

what bothers me is the 5 years thing. if he has been off 6 months its one thing.. but 5 years is scary.. i think his HPTA is permanently damaged

 

[mikevegas]

this is why you guys in your early 20's have no business running cycles. i doubt you will ever recover. sounds like you screwed yourself up for life. thats the reality.

your body is producing test on its own, just not very much. i dunno why you waited 5 years to do a blood test. could of known this 5 years ago and ran an aggressive PCT immediately. hopefully someone is reading this thread and learns from your mistake.

I guarantee you ran hard cycles back to back to back and never came off in reality. you didn't give your body a chance to recover. lots of young dudes seem to do this and dont think about the consequences.

I would go see an endo pronto. tell him you abused steroids as a kid and you would like his opinion on what you should do.

My vote for most non helpful post of the year. And seriously, it's fine to tank your own test production thru steriod use in your 30's, because you don't want to have sex then? At 40 I might as well just cut my balls off all together?

The other advices in here are good. I agree with the 500iu twice per week HCG on cycle vs. 250 is the only thing I saw. I've run steroids on and off since 16, and I've had test readings between 550-900 over those years post cycle. We have know idea for certain why you are so low. Just keep reviewing as many PCT posts in here as your eyeballs can handle, I always find new tidbits and good ideas here and there, even after years of studying this. Keep readin' bro.

 

[RADAR]

Thanks for the information. Your estrogen is pretty high and that could be one of the reasons your testosterone is low. If I were you and thinking about doing a cycle then I would take Radar's advice and let him guide you back out of suppression after the cycle is over. If you don't want to start your cycle right away then get some HCGenerate and most importantly Forma Stanzol. You can try out the new Phytoserms as well (looks very promising), all of these will help your libido, help raise your testosterone, and lower your estrogen levels.

Also if you decide to do a cycle then please please do yourself a favor and use HCG during the cycle to prevent further atrophy. 2X a wk at 250iu per shot. Post up and let me know what you decide.

Good advice here!

 

[RADAR]

I agree ^^^^ most dont know shit.

the only reason i suggested an endo is because its been 5 years and he is still not recovered. I think his options are trying a strong PCT and then seeing where he is at. if that fails then he may just need to either deal with his low levels or get a script. even though they are morons they have the power to write us a script.

I also agree if he tries lowering his estrogen that could tip the balance of things in his favor.

working out (especially squats, deadlifts), staying away from estrogen forming foods/drinks like alcohol for example. could be all he needs to do to get things going the right direction.

what bothers me is the 5 years thing. if he has been off 6 months its one thing.. but 5 years is scary.. i think his HPTA is permanently damaged

Steve is correct,however even after 5 yrs we can still tilt things in our favor, just remember it took 5 years to screw things up so don't expect things to happen overnight.But as i have said ,it's doable!

 

[C.K.]

Ya some people just just naturally have low test...

 

[gymrat surfer]

Just cracked open my bottle of HCgenerate! I will use it for 1 month before I begin my cycle. What do you guys think?

Also, there is something I have to admit that could play a role into my high estrogen levels and low test levels. For the last 5 years and beyond, I have smoked lots of marijuana as it is legal for me (have my medical card) which I know is dumb and contradicts fitness, bodybuilding and overall health.

Yes I have saw the light (thank god!) 2 months ago and have been clean since and threw away all my paraphernalia. As I have been cold turkey for 2 months and plan to never use ever again, I am wondering if that has also played a huge role into my test results.

 

[RADAR]

Just cracked open my bottle of HCgenerate! I will use it for 1 month before I begin my cycle. What do you guys think?

Also, there is something I have to admit that could play a role into my high estrogen levels and low test levels. For the last 5 years and beyond, I have smoked lots of marijuana as it is legal for me (have my medical card) which I know is dumb and contradicts fitness, bodybuilding and overall health.

Yes I have saw the light (thank god!) 2 months ago and have been clean since and threw away all my paraphernalia. As I have been cold turkey for 2 months and plan to never use ever again, I am wondering if that has also played a huge role into my test results.

I highly doubt it ,I see alot of Blood tests and theres no evidence that states smoking pot will play a role in the results,alot of members here remember Quadsweep ,he was a heavy user of MJ and competed often.