Testosterone & Igf 1 lr3 injection questions

[ValentineA]

Hi.
This july,my ages will be 24. I already tried prohormone such as tren xtreme, 11oxo, h-drol,etc.
Ive already buy igf 1 lr3, ill inject it monday bicep,wed tricep, friday delts, after work out. My cycle will be 5weeks. My diets are eat 6 times/day, high protein,low carbs, good fats,low fat.
My questions are :
1. May i stack it with testosterone?
2. do my plan is good enough?


another advices and comments are really welcome.

Thanks!!

 

[needtogetaas]

Lets keep where you get stuff from off the forums. Thanks honey.

 

[ValentineA]

Lets keep where you get stuff from off the forums. Thanks honey.

oh im sorry, im quite new here. Thanks for your attention

anyone please?
Thanks

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I would not recommend test it is far to strong and very likely will cause virilization. Are you looking to gain muscle what is your goal? What is your training like and can you be a little more specific about your diet like give us a one day sample breakout? As well as your stats hight weight and bodyfat? Thanks and welcome to Elite

 

[ValentineA]

I would not recommend test it is far to strong and very likely will cause virilization. Are you looking to gain muscle what is your goal? What is your training like and can you be a little more specific about your diet like give us a one day sample breakout? As well as your stats hight weight and bodyfat? Thanks and welcome to Elite

Hi.
I know testosterone will cause virilization,masculine in woman. But it doesn't matter for me. Honestly I'm very tomboy person,hope you get what I mean my body fat is under 15%.
Meals sample:
Meal 1 : 2 scoops of protein blends(probolic sr, sometimes dymatize 12hours)
Meal 2 : 2 chicken breast
Meal 3 : 2 scoop of protein blend
Meal 4 : salmon fish
Meal 5 : 2 chicken breast
Meal 6 before bed time : 1 scoop protein blend + 1 chicken breast + glutamine

My work out will be monday,tuesday, wednesday, friday, weight lifting and 30minutes of cardio.

I hit gym since I was 17years old, and now I'm almost 24 this july.

Is it good if I run testosterone first and then igf 1 lr3 to keep my gains?

Thanks a lot for your help

 

[ValentineA]

Oh yeah,with igf 1 lr3 my goal is to increase amounts of muscle cells (hyperlasia). Will it help my muscle look shredder since I know igf 1 will cause hyperlasia? Thank you so much!!

 

[Thandie]

Welcome!

I'll come back and tweek your diet in a short while..

 

[Thandie]

Hi.
I know testosterone will cause virilization,masculine in woman. But it doesn't matter for me. Honestly I'm very tomboy person,hope you get what I mean my body fat is under 15%.
Meals sample:
Meal 1 : 2 scoops of protein blends(probolic sr, sometimes dymatize 12hours) (Rather then staring the day with a processed drink, have whole foods such as oatmeal and egg whites)
Meal 2 : 2 chicken breast (Great, but have carbs with it, such as vegetables and brown rice)
Meal 3 : 2 scoop of protein blend (Similar to #2, but sweet potato and salad (sample))
Meal 4 : salmon fish (With green, fibrous carbs)
Meal 5 : 2 chicken breast (With vegetables as well)
Meal 6 before bed time : 1 scoop protein blend + 1 chicken breast + glutamine(If you're going to have a second shake, have a casein shake)

My work out will be monday,tuesday, wednesday, friday, weight lifting and 30minutes of cardio.

I hit gym since I was 17years old, and now I'm almost 24 this july.

Is it good if I run testosterone first and then igf 1 lr3 to keep my gains?

Thanks a lot for your help

You're doing great with the protein, but needs more cabs. That's what will give you energy and will help burn fat by way of increasing your metabolism.

 

[ValentineA]

You're doing great with the protein, but needs more cabs. That's what will give you energy and will help burn fat by way of increasing your metabolism.

ill add some vegetables! I'm endomorph typical, so I add a lot of bcaa's to prevent my muscles. My friend told me that I need to off carbs of 2-3 days,and then start to eat carbs no more than 100grams/day. I'm sorry if this one Is wrong.
Your advices really help me much! Ill begin it tomorrow

So any advices for testosterone and igf 1 lr3

Thank you very much

 

[ValentineA]

Oh yeah, I add some fat like peanut butter to my protein shake before bed times, and sometimes I eat cottage cheese before sleep.
Well,you are a knowledgeable person about diet once again thanks!

 

[Thandie]

Oh yeah, I add some fat like peanut butter to my protein shake before bed times, and sometimes I eat cottage cheese before sleep.
Well,you are a knowledgeable person about diet once again thanks!

Just be careful with Peanut butter; it tends to trigger a binge. Best fat you can have, however is 1 tsp fish oil or 1 cap at night. Flaxseed oil in your shake or salad; in addition to the fat already in your meals. If you have cottage cheese, don't have the casein protein powder.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Hi.
I know testosterone will cause virilization,masculine in woman. But it doesn't matter for me. Honestly I'm very tomboy person,hope you get what I mean my body fat is under 15%.

I undestand what your saying just suprised but it is your choice just hate to see someone regret a choice that will then be with them for the rest of there life. Be prepared to have much more facial hair and a lower voice as well as acne and clit growth.

With the test it is best to do short acting prop 20mg every other day is a good place to start it is lower so less likely sides. I have never taken prop but I heard it hurts like hell so be warned. Also test can cause test flew fever weakness etc. For the IGF start at 10mcg per day and inject it directly into the muscle. Be very careful with carb intake around injection time it is very easy to go hypo on IGF1.

 

[ValentineA]

Just be careful with Peanut butter; it tends to trigger a binge. Best fat you can have, however is 1 tsp fish oil or 1 cap at night. Flaxseed oil in your shake or salad; in addition to the fat already in your meals. If you have cottage cheese, don't have the casein protein powder.

Thank you

 

[ValentineA]

I undestand what your saying just suprised but it is your choice just hate to see someone regret a choice that will then be with them for the rest of there life. Be prepared to have much more facial hair and a lower voice as well as acne and clit growth.

With the test it is best to do short acting prop 20mg every other day is a good place to start it is lower so less likely sides. I have never taken prop but I heard it hurts like hell so be warned. Also test can cause test flew fever weakness etc. For the IGF start at 10mcg per day and inject it directly into the muscle. Be very careful with carb intake around injection time it is very easy to go hypo on IGF1.

I read about hypo too.. So I have to increase my carbs intake after injection,right? Yes,test prop is hurt,I still thinking about it.. How about orally ph 1-androstra which will convert to testosterone?
Thanks a lot!!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I read about hypo too.. So I have to increase my carbs intake after injection,right? Yes,test prop is hurt,I still thinking about it.. How about orally ph 1-androstra which will convert to testosterone?
Thanks a lot!!

That is correct. I have never tried any prohormones typically women experciene higher sides then actually gains with them so again it is risk. Have you considred winny or anavar?

 

[ValentineA]

That is correct. I have never tried any prohormones typically women experciene higher sides then actually gains with them so again it is risk. Have you considred winny or anavar?

Yes, most are ph are very strong. I never try winny or anavar before.. I heard winny is good for muscle tone, muscle definition, and bone too, anavar is good for muscle definition. Which is the best to stack it with igf 1 lr3? Btw do you have any experience with igf 1 lr3?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Yes, most are ph are very strong. I never try winny or anavar before.. I heard winny is good for muscle tone, muscle definition, and bone too, anavar is good for muscle definition. Which is the best to stack it with igf 1 lr3? Btw do you have any experience with igf 1 lr3?

I have never used IGF1 as it is for growth primarly and I never have any issues putting on muscle. My problem is cutting and losing muscle on low cals and cardio.

 

[slat1]

Hi.
This july,my ages will be 24. I already tried prohormone such as tren xtreme, 11oxo, h-drol,etc.
Ive already buy igf 1 lr3, ill inject it monday bicep,wed tricep, friday delts, after work out. My cycle will be 5weeks. My diets are eat 6 times/day, high protein,low carbs, good fats,low fat.
My questions are :
1. May i stack it with testosterone?
2. do my plan is good enough?


another advices and comments are really welcome.

Thanks!!

I would inject it every day if not twice a day due to how long it stays active. It is a volitile substance so you need to store if properly also...

 

[ValentineA]

I would inject it every day if not twice a day due to how long it stays active. It is a volitile substance so you need to store if properly also...

That's a good idea to inject it everyday, but for now my plan is to give a shoot pwo. That's why I want to stack it with aas,to keep it anabolic. How do you think? Best to stack it with winny anavar or testosterone? Or just give a igf1lr3 s shoot for everyday? Thank you

 

[ValentineA]

I have never used IGF1 as it is for growth primarly and I never have any issues putting on muscle. My problem is cutting and losing muscle on low cals and cardio.

I guess you need a lot of bcaa while cutting and diet low carb,low calories? Btw how about testosterone ethanate?it is not hurt,but long half life than prop

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I guess you need a lot of bcaa while cutting and diet low carb,low calories? Btw how about testosterone ethanate?it is not hurt,but long half life than prop

Never tried it but I know grils that run it the problem is the half life takes about 2 weeks to clear so if you get sides you have to ride them out. If your going to do test E I would start out low like 40mg once a week.

 

[Tatyana]

Hi.
I know testosterone will cause virilization,masculine in woman. But it doesn't matter for me. Honestly I'm very tomboy person,hope you get what I mean my body fat is under 15%.

I am not sure how to put this in a delicate manner, to please forgive me if this comes across as harsh.

There is a difference between being a tomboy and having a look that people are not sure if you are male or female.

There are far too many women that become obsessed with putting on muscle and fail to notice the small changes with every cycle that eventually become very obvious, when it is too late to do anything about it.

I realise some women are not concerned with looking feminine, I have quite a few female friends that are very highly androgenised from steroids and I am quite used to how they look and I no longer find it different or odd.

However, the majority of society will think that these women look like freaks.

It is your choice, consider that your idea of how you want to look may change through life, so irreversible sides due to testosterone may not seem like an issue now, they might later.

Please be careful and mindful of how you go.

 

[ValentineA]

I am not sure how to put this in a delicate manner, to please forgive me if this comes across as harsh.

There is a difference between being a tomboy and having a look that people are not sure if you are male or female.

There are far too many women that become obsessed with putting on muscle and fail to notice the small changes with every cycle that eventually become very obvious, when it is too late to do anything about it.

I realise some women are not concerned with looking feminine, I have quite a few female friends that are very highly androgenised from steroids and I am quite used to how they look and I no longer find it different or odd.

However, the majority of society will think that these women look like freaks.

It is your choice, consider that your idea of how you want to look may change through life, so irreversible sides due to testosterone may not seem like an issue now, they might later.

Please be careful and mindful of how you go.

I'm a transgender female to male I'm sorry if I try to be very honest in here. But hope everything is clear now.
By the way, you are very kind and care person, I understood with all you said.. Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.

 

[ValentineA]

Never tried it but I know grils that run it the problem is the half life takes about 2 weeks to clear so if you get sides you have to ride them out. If your going to do test E I would start out low like 40mg once a week.

Yes, ill start from the lower dosage.. Girl who run test ethanate? How's it work? Any side effects?

 

[Thandie]

i am not sure how to put this in a delicate manner, to please forgive me if this comes across as harsh.

There is a difference between being a tomboy and having a look that people are not sure if you are male or female.

There are far too many women that become obsessed with putting on muscle and fail to notice the small changes with every cycle that eventually become very obvious, when it is too late to do anything about it.

I realise some women are not concerned with looking feminine, i have quite a few female friends that are very highly androgenised from steroids and i am quite used to how they look and i no longer find it different or odd.

However, the majority of society will think that these women look like freaks.

It is your choice, consider that your idea of how you want to look may change through life, so irreversible sides due to testosterone may not seem like an issue now, they might later.

Please be careful and mindful of how you go.

+++1

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I'm a transgender female to male I'm sorry if I try to be very honest in here. But hope everything is clear now.
By the way, you are very kind and care person, I understood with all you said.. Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.

Oh I see ok makes a lot more sense now. Are you going to have surgery and everything? I saw a show about it and Dr. were perscribing 150mg per week of test before the gender reassingment surgery.

 

[ValentineA]

Oh I see ok makes a lot more sense now. Are you going to have surgery and everything? I saw a show about it and Dr. were perscribing 150mg per week of test before the gender reassingment surgery.

No surgery like breast,etc. Yes it begin with 50mg with testosterone prop a week. But I'm not yet to go to hormone replacement theraphy(hrt),because I guess Ill become more masculine without hrt,because I have a plan to build a muscle with testosterone injection. I believe Testosterone will give me a lot of androgenic sides. Thank you so much to accept me whoever iam I really appreciate that how's your friend who run test E? Any negative effect even she started from 40mg?

 

[Thandie]

No surgery like breast,etc. Yes it begin with 50mg with testosterone prop a week. But I'm not yet to go to hormone replacement theraphy(hrt),because I guess Ill become more masculine without hrt,because I have a plan to build a muscle with testosterone injection. I believe Testosterone will give me a lot of androgenic sides. Thank you so much to accept me whoever iam I really appreciate that how's your friend who run test E? Any negative effect even she started from 40mg?

ValentineA, I can assure you, we accept you for whoever you are. We just didn't know the specifics of your story. Thank you for sharing! We appreciate your honesty!!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

No surgery like breast,etc. Yes it begin with 50mg with testosterone prop a week. But I'm not yet to go to hormone replacement theraphy(hrt),because I guess Ill become more masculine without hrt,because I have a plan to build a muscle with testosterone injection. I believe Testosterone will give me a lot of androgenic sides. Thank you so much to accept me whoever iam I really appreciate that how's your friend who run test E? Any negative effect even she started from 40mg?

What I noticed was acne and I noticed her voice dropped a fair bit. I never asked her what else happend.

 

[Tatyana]

I'm a transgender female to male I'm sorry if I try to be very honest in here. But hope everything is clear now.
By the way, you are very kind and care person, I understood with all you said.. Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.

Completely different situation.

You are going to need an AI, aromatase inhibitor, as you will convert even more of the test to oestrogen, which obviously you want to avoid.

 

[slat1]

That's a good idea to inject it everyday, but for now my plan is to give a shoot pwo. That's why I want to stack it with aas,to keep it anabolic. How do you think? Best to stack it with winny anavar or testosterone? Or just give a igf1lr3 s shoot for everyday? Thank you

10mcg's PWO is the best along with a well designed PWO shake as it will slam everything into your muscles.
I am a fan of basic science. If you have not used IFG1-LR3 by itself you should. If you stack it right away you will not know where the results are coming from. You really learn how your body respounds to compounds, peptides etc better that way!

 

[slat1]

Oh I see ok makes a lot more sense now. Are you going to have surgery and everything? I saw a show about it and Dr. were perscribing 150mg per week of test before the gender reassingment surgery.

For female to male the responsible dose is 50mgs to 100mgs a week. I actually read that the other day. I am trying to locate the article.
Another perspective. I am 260lbs and I was prescribed the high end by my Dr at 100mgs a week. He is well known and works with professional athletes. The guy is great but makes sure everything is done to a "T" the right way.

 

[ValentineA]

ValentineA, I can assure you, we accept you for whoever you are. We just didn't know the specifics of your story. Thank you for sharing! We appreciate your honesty!!

all I can say is I'm feeling very happy right now..thank you

 

[ValentineA]

What I noticed was acne and I noticed her voice dropped a fair bit. I never asked her what else happend.

yes acne is very common side, and I notice acne on my back not on my face thank you

 

[ValentineA]

Completely different situation.

You are going to need an AI, aromatase inhibitor, as you will convert even more of the test to oestrogen, which obviously you want to avoid.

Is serm's like tamofen is a good choice? I ever ran tren, my body bloated everywhere, estrogen increased a lot, increase stored fat,water retention, My body looked like a baloon,but my strenght increases,muscles becomes big. Just to share.. Well, I ever read an article it says that anti estrogen decreases the effectiveness igf 1 in body, how is it when I stack it with igf 1 lr3? Any recommend cycle? Correct me if I'm wrong..thanks

 

[ValentineA]

10mcg's PWO is the best along with a well designed PWO shake as it will slam everything into your muscles.
I am a fan of basic science. If you have not used IFG1-LR3 by itself you should. If you stack it right away you will not know where the results are coming from. You really learn how your body respounds to compounds, peptides etc better that way!

I'd love to use igf 1 lr3 alone, but its hard to find peptides in my country, so I always have to wait my friend go to my country for holiday,and he will buy the peptide for me. So if I can stack it,I rather stack it so at least it will give me more results. I read that igf 1 lr3 will give more results if conjunction with other aas

 

[ValentineA]

For female to male the responsible dose is 50mgs to 100mgs a week. I actually read that the other day. I am trying to locate the article.
Another perspective. I am 260lbs and I was prescribed the high end by my Dr at 100mgs a week. He is well known and works with professional athletes. The guy is great but makes sure everything is done to a "T" the right way.

260lbs? Are you female of male? That's pretty awesome

 

[Tatyana]

Is serm's like tamofen is a good choice? I ever ran tren, my body bloated everywhere, estrogen increased a lot, increase stored fat,water retention, My body looked like a baloon,but my strenght increases,muscles becomes big. Just to share.. Well, I ever read an article it says that anti estrogen decreases the effectiveness igf 1 in body, how is it when I stack it with igf 1 lr3? Any recommend cycle? Correct me if I'm wrong..thanks

Tamoxifen acts at the oestrogen receptor, an aromase inhibitor kills the enzyme that converts testosterone to oestrogen.

If you run tren, you are going to need a prolactin inhibitor, like dosinex.

You are going to have a slightly different set of situations going on. For example, your brain may be male, but during your developement, some of your endocrinology has turned out female, so you will have to deal with both male and female issues for steroid use to some extent.

Some of this is going to be guess work, as without things like receptor and enzyme analysis done, it is not going to be known exactly to what extent your original hormones etc are male or female.

Do you still have your ovaries?

Have you done any PCT? I think you will need something, as to what, I am not certain.

 

[ValentineA]

Tamoxifen acts at the oestrogen receptor, an aromase inhibitor kills the enzyme that converts testosterone to oestrogen.

If you run tren, you are going to need a prolactin inhibitor, like dosinex.

You are going to have a slightly different set of situations going on. For example, your brain may be male, but during your developement, some of your endocrinology has turned out female, so you will have to deal with both male and female issues for steroid use to some extent.

Some of this is going to be guess work, as without things like receptor and enzyme analysis done, it is not going to be known exactly to what extent your original hormones etc are male or female.

Do you still have your ovaries?

Have you done any PCT? I think you will need something, as to what, I am not certain.

Yes I still have my ovaries. I still in menstrual cycle. I've ever read that women don't have do any pct,since women have a lot estrogen produces in her body?
But I do pct like decrease the dosage slowly to the end.
Is oral ph which is similar to tren,nandrolone,or methyl***(I forgot the name) are safe?

Im still looking for the best stack with my igf 1 lr3, I will keep all advices from here, is it testosterone,maybe winny,tren,or else.. My goal is more lean muscle,dry and gain size but is not to gain size-clean size.
Any recommended cycle?
Thank you

 

[ValentineA]

does anyone have any recommended guide to make 0.6% acetic acid? i already got it, but i dont know what kind of vinegar, is it same as food vinegar. not too detail about making it. thanks

 

[Tatyana]

Yes, it used to be thought that women don't need PCT, however, they get oestrogen rebound and issues with prolactin the same as men, so it is about controlling these coming off cycles.

Acetic acid is food vinegar, however I don't know if it is sterile enough.

 

[ValentineA]

Yes, it used to be thought that women don't need PCT, however, they get oestrogen rebound and issues with prolactin the same as men, so it is about controlling these coming off cycles.

Acetic acid is food vinegar, however I don't know if it is sterile enough.

So if I use tren xtreme,after that I have to do pct with prolactin?

I'm so confuse about the making of acetic acid 0.6%. But it wouldn't be such a good idea if I just mix the igf 1 lr3 with bacteriostatic water right? Thank you

 

[superqt4u2nv]

So if I use tren xtreme,after that I have to do pct with prolactin?

I'm so confuse about the making of acetic acid 0.6%. But it wouldn't be such a good idea if I just mix the igf 1 lr3 with bacteriostatic water right? Thank you

Correct the IFG1 needs to be mixed with bacteriostatic water.

 

[ValentineA]

Correct the IFG1 needs to be mixed with bacteriostatic water.

Some people said that it would damage the igf lr3 if I mixed it with bacteriostatic water? And I've to mix it with 0.6% of acetic acid?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

So if I use tren xtreme,after that I have to do pct with prolactin?

I'm so confuse about the making of acetic acid 0.6%. But it wouldn't be such a good idea if I just mix the igf 1 lr3 with bacteriostatic water right? Thank you

Hi ValentineA welcome to the board .

Igf is mixed with AA to make it stay active or potent for longer , and at the time of shooting mixed with Bac water to take out the sting of the Acid , but it can be just mixed with Bac water.

Most comes with 1ml AA ,when mixed it is 1 mark on 1/2 ml slin pin to 10mcg and then you double that volume with Bac water at time of injection .

10 mcg is a good starting dose make sure you have glucose tabs on hand in case you get hypo.

Brad.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Here some info on the vinegar .


Brad.
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Reconstitution.

But just about always you do not have to worry about reconstituting it yourself. All of the manufacturers usually suspend their LR3 in either BA or AA for you.

The calculation:
Distilled white vinegar is supposed to be standardized to ~5% acetic acid, which would make it 850mM. To get it to the recommended 100mM, you'd want 11.76% white vinegar (100mM/850mM = 11.76%). Since it would be almost impossible to draw out 11.76IU's, I round this to 12, which is certainly going to be close to our desired 100mM.

The filtering process:
I use off the shelf grocery store distilled white vinegar. In order to ensure safety, I filter it using .20u whatman filters. Here is the step by step for those that may not be familiar with filtering using whatmans. What you will want to have on hand before starting out is some sterile vials, some .20u whatman filters, some syringes and needles (I use a 10cc syringe, and .23 gauge 1" needles), and some alcohol swabs.

(1) First draw up about 10cc of the distilled white vinegar
(2) screw on the .20u whatman to the 10cc syringe (or whatever size you use)
(3) screw on a .23 gauge needle (or whatever size you decide to use)
(4) take your sterile vial, swab the top with alcohol, insert a needle for venting.
(5) Insert your syringe/whatman/needle apparatus and slowly push the 10cc's into the sterile vial.

Now you have safe vinegar to use for your reconstituting.

ALTERNATE METHOD - Alternately, you could simply mix your water and distilled white vinegar before filtering using about 7.5 parts of water per 1 part of distilled white vinegar. After mixing these together in this ratio, run the mixture through your .20u whatman as above. You will end up with a vial of dilutent this way that has the proper PH for use with your IGF-1.

Reconstituting:

How much water/vinegar you reconstitute with is going to somewhat depend on which LR3 IGF-1 you are using. Igtropin is shipped in 100mcg vials, which I usually reconstitute at 1ml(cc) per 100mcg vial (which will make the 10 mark on your insulin syringe = 10 mcgs). The gropep based IGF-1's are primarily shipped in 1mg vials, and I usually use 5ml for these (which will make the 10 mark on your insulin syringe = 20mcgs).
At any rate, what I do is:

(1) take an alcohol swab and swab the tops of my water, vinegar solution, and IGF-1 vials
(2) take a syringe with a 23 gauge, 1" needle and draw out .12 cc's of vinegar for the 100mcg vials or .60 cc's for the 1mg vials.
(3) next I take this syringe and draw out the water - .88cc's for 100mcg, 4.4cc's for the 1mg.

FOR ALTERNATE METHOD in lieu of steps (2) and (3) - Just draw out the desired amount of dilutent from your pre-mixed vial of
vinegar / water.

(4) next i poke the needle into the LR3 IGF-1 vial and dribble this solution down the side of the vial, avoid any direct spray on the lyophilized powder until all of the dilutent is in the vial
(5) using a gentle swirling motion, I reconstitute the powder.
(6) I stick the vial in the fridge and it is now ready for use.

Well, I think that about sums it up. Hope this helps anyone who may have been wondering about using vinegar to reconstitute. I would advise that if you end up using Igtropin, you seriously consider using this vinegar method. Igtropin and other dilutents such as BA do not get along well together at all.

 

[ValentineA]

Hello, thank you very much for your info. So is it ok if I just mixed it with benzyl alcohol if I'm not really sure how to make sterile acetic acid?? How long is the lifetime in a room temperature if it mixed with bac?
Thanks

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Hello, thank you very much for your info. So is it ok if I just mixed it with benzyl alcohol if I'm not really sure how to make sterile acetic acid?? How long is the lifetime in a room temperature if it mixed with bac?
Thanks

I have no real world knolage about how long it will last in BA i always use AA , and i carn't find any study that has a time or temp line sorry , alot of places are pre mixing now in AA so you might get lucky , but i would a void room temp or sock draw temp lol .

AA times here a study if found .

Brad.

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Storage

The stability of a liquid solution of LR3IGF-I was monitored for a period of two years at storage conditions of -20 C, +4 C, +22 C, and +37 C. The final concentration of LR3IGF-I was in acetic acid. At various time points, samples were taken and compared to a lyophilized control (stored at 4 C). Listed below are the stability results for each respective storage condition.

Storage Condition: -20 C (-4 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +4 C (39.2 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +22 C (71.6 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +37 C (98.6 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 1 year
Immunological Activity No Change up to 1 year
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 1 year

 

[ValentineA]

I have no real world knolage about how long it will last in BA i always use AA , and i carn't find any study that has a time or temp line sorry , alot of places are pre mixing now in AA so you might get lucky , but i would a void room temp or sock draw temp lol .

AA times here a study if found .

Brad.

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Storage

The stability of a liquid solution of LR3IGF-I was monitored for a period of two years at storage conditions of -20 C, +4 C, +22 C, and +37 C. The final concentration of LR3IGF-I was in acetic acid. At various time points, samples were taken and compared to a lyophilized control (stored at 4 C). Listed below are the stability results for each respective storage condition.

Storage Condition: -20 C (-4 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +4 C (39.2 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +22 C (71.6 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +37 C (98.6 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 1 year
Immunological Activity No Change up to 1 year
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 1 year

Thanks how's your result with igf1lr3?

 

[slat1]

I have used IGF LR3 before. I never gained size or localized growth. I did get vascular like no other and I leaned out impressively too. I have always been a high protein, moderate fat, low carb guy.
I also found that 40mcgs a day (in two seperate doses) gave me the same results as 120mcgs a day!

 

[ValentineA]

I have used IGF LR3 before. I never gained size or localized growth. I did get vascular like no other and I leaned out impressively too. I have always been a high protein, moderate fat, low carb guy.
I also found that 40mcgs a day (in two seperate doses) gave me the same results as 120mcgs a day!

Thanks for youe share. Did you make aa by yourself?

 

[slat1]

Thanks for youe share. Did you make aa by yourself?

I have tried both AA and BAC and did not notice a difference.
I just continued to use the BAC.
Once I mixed it I filled each individual pin. Then I put the ones I was not using that day in the freezer. Each day I would take out two for use.
That is a trick from I was told from a guy that works with Pro's. It worked well.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

I have tried both AA and BAC and did not notice a difference.
I just continued to use the BAC.
Once I mixed it I filled each individual pin. Then I put the ones I was not using that day in the freezer. Each day I would take out two for use.
That is a trick from I was told from a guy that works with Pro's. It worked well.

Very nice trick mate , i'll try that


Brad.

 

[ValentineA]

I have tried both AA and BAC and did not notice a difference.
I just continued to use the BAC.
Once I mixed it I filled each individual pin. Then I put the ones I was not using that day in the freezer. Each day I would take out two for use.
That is a trick from I was told from a guy that works with Pro's. It worked well.

With benzyl alcohol,is it same like adding aa to igf which is 1 ml of bac with igf(to be 1000mcg) ? And still dilute with bw? Thank you

 

[slat1]

I don't know about benzyl alcohol. You should be able to find BAC or AA online.

 

[ValentineA]

I don't know about benzyl alcohol. You should be able to find BAC or AA online.

So what is bac? is it benzyl alcohol?sorry if I'm wrong. Or did you mean bacterostatic water?

 

[ValentineA]

How much bacteriostatic water should I mixed with 1000mcg of igf 1 lr3?
Thanks for your information.