Testosterone dosage..

[fast_lane]

I'm on TRT with androgel and was wondering how to compare the dosage of the androgel versus the dosage of testosterone injected..In other words for a daily dosage of 5 grams of androgel the manufacturer says its aq 50 mgs dosage of testosterone,but is it like if i'm injecting 50 mgs/day of testosterone?I'm guessing that it isnt the same but and maybe i'm just having a 25 mgs dose out of it.What do u guys think or know about it?

 

[fast_lane]

Cmon guys no body knows the answer for this one?

 

[needtogetaas]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTT not even close. They lie so much. Go ahead and inject 50mg of test-p ed for a month. You will know damn well you are on much more test.

If you injected 100mg of test-e once a week. That would be about the same as the gel.

 

[empirebuilder]

Like needto stated it is not even close. I have no personal experience with the gels. However after reading and listening to people that have used them it seems to me to have a very minimal effect on overall testosterone. I have read statements before that people using the gel felt absolutely no difference and after going to the doctor their Testosterone levels were still very very low. Most of them usually end up on the injections.

 

[Varga]

The gel is shit man, I had to use 2 tubes daily when I first started to get something out if it. If I have to say is like taking 50-75mg of test a week injectible. That's using a tube of gel a day...total waste
And you woman cant touch you either cause it can transfer on her and stuff...

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think they mean daily applications equal 50 mgs of T a week. That's about right.

 

[fast_lane]

I think they mean daily applications equal 50 mgs of T a week. That's about right.

Ya ur right that sounds logical to me too,but u know what?I'm applying 2 packets( 10 grm/day)of the stuff with 40m mgs of t-bol and having a blast,i mean i'm having with that stack more results then with my lastcycle(EQ and t_bol).and i was asking because actualy at that dose,my nips are sensitive and i have to take .25 adex eod so this gel must be a litle more effective then most peapole think on this board...So i was wondering how it is compared to injecting witch havent done yet...

 

[jacshelb]

I have used some of the stick on test patches (friend was throwing them out...I know they're useless) and the idea is that the quoted dose of 5mg per pack is what they assume will get into your system, there's more in the packet, but it's not all going to get through. I know, I know that's obvious, but that's why it's so much different than injections- this is for the OP btw.

 

[ALIN]

I think they mean daily applications equal 50 mgs of T a week. That's about right.

Yes,,I'm almost certain thats what they mean.

 

[fast_lane]

I have used some of the stick on test patches (friend was throwing them out...I know they're useless) and the idea is that the quoted dose of 5mg per pack is what they assume will get into your system, there's more in the packet, but it's not all going to get through. I know, I know that's obvious, but that's why it's so much different than injections- this is for the OP btw.

The manufacterer of my andro gel says 50 mgs...not 5 mgs.

 

[BalcoInc79]

A friend gave me a whole bunch of Testim gel tubes. If you read the insert carefully it says that only about 10% of the testosterone you apply gets absorbed and makes it into circulation. So 50mg = only about 5mg acually being absorbed.

 

[andrew732]

A friend gave me a whole bunch of Testim gel tubes. If you read the insert carefully it says that only about 10% of the testosterone you apply gets absorbed and makes it into circulation. So 50mg = only about 5mg acually being absorbed.

Test gel is NOTHING compared to Test injection

 

[kx250rider]

I'm on TRT with androgel and was wondering how to compare the dosage of the androgel versus the dosage of testosterone injected..In other words for a daily dosage of 5 grams of androgel the manufacturer says its aq 50 mgs dosage of testosterone,but is it like if i'm injecting 50 mgs/day of testosterone?I'm guessing that it isnt the same but and maybe i'm just having a 25 mgs dose out of it.What do u guys think or know about it?

Honestly Bro, useless. I'm not a doctor, but I have done plenty of reading, and I have plenty of experience with injectible Testosterone. The patches are snake oil, according to two hormone replacement doctors I have seen, and according to all I've read. As far as doses, I don't know what strengths are available in patches, but typically a male with low T, will be prescribed 200-400mg every 2 weeks to start with, and probably will be brought into the normal range somewhere near that dose. People here, might or might not use several times that, but I can't comment there. I can say that I have a very low natural level (age 43), and I'm no 300mg 2x/week per doctor's permission. That gets my level in the 700 range, which is a little high for my age, but might be low for a 20-year-old.

My advice is to ask around, and obviously since I'm writing this here; "See your doctor and follow his/her advice"

Charles

 

[XMAN.]

Honestly Bro, useless. I'm not a doctor, but I have done plenty of reading, and I have plenty of experience with injectible Testosterone. The patches are snake oil, according to two hormone replacement doctors I have seen, and according to all I've read. As far as doses, I don't know what strengths are available in patches, but typically a male with low T, will be prescribed 200-400mg every 2 weeks to start with, and probably will be brought into the normal range somewhere near that dose. People here, might or might not use several times that, but I can't comment there. I can say that I have a very low natural level (age 43), and I'm no 300mg 2x/week per doctor's permission. That gets my level in the 700 range, which is a little high for my age, but might be low for a 20-year-old.

My advice is to ask around, and obviously since I'm writing this here; "See your doctor and follow his/her advice"

Charles

300 mg twice per week that's 600mg per week , r u sure bro??? that's a cycle it's way above TRT dose , or maybe u meant 300mg every 2 weeks.

 

[kx250rider]

300 mg twice per week that's 600mg per week , r u sure bro??? that's a cycle it's way above TRT dose , or maybe u meant 300mg every 2 weeks.

600/week. The doctor raised it to that, from 400/week (single shot) earlier this year. I should explain on that:

I have Aldosteronism, which for those not familiar, is a problem which affects how the body regulates hormones (you can say it's a cousin of diabetes, as it completely screws up insulin levels to start with). My Test level without replacement, was in the 120 range, and estrogen was through the roof (I forget the number). I could probably take 1000mg/week, and still test below 775.

I've had that problem since childhood, and it had good & bad points... Never had acne, never had to use deodorant, didn't have to shave (until about 30), and people say I still look in my 20s (and I"m double that). And my prostate is still smaller than a 12-year-old's, and doctor says I never will have to worry about those problems. However, the bad thing is, it caused me to always have a hard time building any bulk, and also the biggest annoyance is my water intake. I put down at least 10 liters/day, and pee every 20 minutes (literally; every 20 minutes). If I don't drink that much water, I get sick. They say it's my body trying to flush out and re-unbalance the hormones, or some kind of double-negative like that. Not to mention that my cholesterol (triglycerides total) are over 500, and can't be brought down. Fortunately, I have no artery problems, and in my case, they say it's "just a number", and isn't going to increase my heart attack risk since I eat an excellent diet.

Charles

 

[XMAN.]

600/week. The doctor raised it to that, from 400/week (single shot) earlier this year. I should explain on that:

I have Aldosteronism, which for those not familiar, is a problem which affects how the body regulates hormones (you can say it's a cousin of diabetes, as it completely screws up insulin levels to start with). My Test level without replacement, was in the 120 range, and estrogen was through the roof (I forget the number). I could probably take 1000mg/week, and still test below 775.

I've had that problem since childhood, and it had good & bad points... Never had acne, never had to use deodorant, didn't have to shave (until about 30), and people say I still look in my 20s (and I"m double that). And my prostate is still smaller than a 12-year-old's, and doctor says I never will have to worry about those problems. However, the bad thing is, it caused me to always have a hard time building any bulk, and also the biggest annoyance is my water intake. I put down at least 10 liters/day, and pee every 20 minutes (literally; every 20 minutes). If I don't drink that much water, I get sick. They say it's my body trying to flush out and re-unbalance the hormones, or some kind of double-negative like that. Not to mention that my cholesterol (triglycerides total) are over 500, and can't be brought down. Fortunately, I have no artery problems, and in my case, they say it's "just a number", and isn't going to increase my heart attack risk since I eat an excellent diet.

Charles

Sorry to hear about that bro , but i have one question , do u take Adex or anything else to lower SHBG maybe it'll free up more test, and if u do what's ur dose?

 

[kx250rider]

Sorry to hear about that bro , but i have one question , do u take Adex or anything else to lower SHBG maybe it'll free up more test, and if u do what's ur dose?

Thanks, and I'm happy it's Aldosteronism and not something life-ruining. I've been on Arimidex for several years (since it came out, if I'm correct). I take 1/2mg/day. I was converting alot of T in Estrogen, but unfortunately the conversion prevention alone doesn't do enough.

On a side note, I think my mother also had Aldosteronism mis-diagnosed as diabetes type 2. She had all the same symptoms I had, and she died of wildly out-of-control blood pressure (strokes, etc). She had the same skyrocketing glucose and insulin crashes that I have naturally, and when she was diagnosed in 1971, they didn't know much of anything about Aldosteronism. Thank God I was properly diagnosed, as it's a very VERY rare condition. I sometimes wonder how many people are wrongly diagnosed with Diabetes type 2. Every new doctor I've ever seen, has guaranteed me I'm diabetic, until I show them the hormone workup, and the MRI showing a benign tumor on my adrenal gland. If I didn't know my condition, I'd have been put on insulin and statins for no reason many times.

Mayo Clinic's Aldosteronism page link: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/primary-aldosteronism/DS00563/DSECTION=symptoms

Charles

 

[needtogetaas]

I'm on TRT with androgel and was wondering how to compare the dosage of the androgel versus the dosage of testosterone injected..In other words for a daily dosage of 5 grams of androgel the manufacturer says its aq 50 mgs dosage of testosterone,but is it like if i'm injecting 50 mgs/day of testosterone?I'm guessing that it isnt the same but and maybe i'm just having a 25 mgs dose out of it.What do u guys think or know about it?

Not even close. you could inject 100mg of test-c a week and even that would be stronger then the gel.

 

[eClenbuterol]

testim and androgel are useless imo,the injectable is much better

 

[needtogetaas]

testim and androgel are useless imo,the injectable is much better

exactly

 

[Varga]

I still have a box of testim gel that you can have ...totally useless