test only cycle...

[doublebicep]

Re: Re: test only cycle...

When I've been shut down, my libido was non-existent. To me being shut down means that there's no endogenous and of course no exogenous test available. If that's the case, how can the libido be higher than normal? :confusued:

Being shut down means you are not producing test naturally. Whatmatters asked about:

mild test only cycle

In which case there would be plenty of test being introduced so test levels would be supra normal. This often can cause an increase in libido. So my point was how would his gf know he was shut down? (Not producing test naturally?)

Men suffering from hypogonadism are permanently shutdown but with HRT can have normal or even supra normal test levels.

 

[High-Jacked]

I am doing similar to you, I just started my first cyle of test enanthate. I am doing an 8-10 week cycle, at 400 mg/week. I will be taking extra caution to prevent gyno by taking 20 mg Nolvadex throughout my whole cycle. I feel as though I am prone to gyno since I have mild case from puberty, but you may not need to. Most people seem to prefer Arimidex to Nolvadex as an anti-E, I have found it more expensive though. I will be following up post cycle with Clomid and Nolva. I injected 300 mg 2 days ago, was real easy, and so far what I have noticed is most likely mental as my past 2 workouts have been staggering and I have felt stronger, again after only 3 days I am sure it is just a placebo or mental thing. Good luck and make sure that you do a lot of research as I have been doing before injecting foreign substances into your body. Good luck bro!

 

[Whatmatters]

Maybe i should have clarified my question about being shut down.....my concern is post cycle, will my natural test levels return to normal, and as far as libido goes will it be affected post cycle?
WM

 

[40butpumpin]

Re: Re: Re: test only cycle...

Being shut down means you are not producing test naturally. Whatmatters asked about:



In which case there would be plenty of test being introduced so test levels would be supra normal. This often can cause an increase in libido. So my point was how would his gf know he was shut down? (Not producing test naturally?)

Men suffering from hypogonadism are permanently shutdown but with HRT can have normal or even supra normal test levels.

Umm, yeah I know, but we're talking post cycle here. At least I thought we were.

 

[jubei]

If its a test only cycle it is worth while to frontload IMO. If it is your first cycle a weekly dosage of 250-500mg/week would seem appropriate. Nolvadex on hand and hcg would seem a wise idea.

 

[OXANDRIN]

can you take 1/2 a tab of femara EOD while on 400mg of test enth? thats what i'm planning on doing after i swtich off this deca

 

[40butpumpin]

will my natural test levels return to normal, and as far as libido goes will it be affected post cycle?
WM

Yes, and depends, as long as you do as suggested earlier you should be fine. The whole idea of recovery is to do it so as to see as little a drop off as possible. See the more time you're without any test, whether exog or endog, the more chance to lose cycle gains so that's exactly what we do not want.

Try this:

Test Enanthate wk 1-8 500mg 1x/wk
HCG wk 1-8 500iu 2x/wk (spaced out)
HCG wk 9-10 500iu ed
Arimidex wk 1-10 0.5mg eod

Or

Test Propionate wk 1-8 100mg eod
HCG wk 1-8 500iu 2x/wk
HCG wk 9-10 500iu ed

Some bro's use Clomid when the HCG stops (week 11 here) but I personally have never had a need for it. Actually I tried and wasn't too impressed with it so I don't both with it. With this you should not see too much of a problem if any at all. That's my opinion anyway, I hope it helps you some.

 

[doublebicep]

Re: Re: Re: Re: test only cycle...

Umm, yeah I know, but we're talking post cycle here. At least I thought we were.

You said

When I've been shut down, my libido was non-existent. To me being shut down means that there's no endogenous and of course no exogenous test available. If that's the case, how can the libido be higher than normal? :confusued:

I disagree with this statement. Being shutdown simply means no nat test production. During a test cycle you can be shutdown but still have a healthly libido.

Whatmatters :

Some this to look into for post cycle recovery:

- hcg
- clomid
- Avena Sativa
- nolvadex
- "Off ramp" techniques some times called by some bridging. (To me bridging is an other term for never going off where "off ramp" techniques are just ways of tapering using shorter acting AS compounds toward the end of your cycle so you can better manage getting your own test production back.)

There shouldn't be any reason your gf would notice you are on or just off a cycle of test other then increase in size or a change in temperment.

 

[40butpumpin]

can you take 1/2 a tab of femara EOD while on 400mg of test enth? thats what i'm planning on doing after i swtich off this deca

femara is an anti-aromatase just like arimidex but works even more effectively in fact. So yes, you can take femara with your test to prevent estrogen conversion (as well as bloat).

Also, HCG is much more than a "wise idea," it is imperative IMO.

 

[Whatmatters]

wow...thanx alot bros...
here's my next question 40butpumpin, i want to start with low doses as i was thinkin going with the enanth at 250mg/wk...would the HCG and/or armidex doses change at all with the smaller amounts?? or are you not recommending the 250mg/wk?

WM