test only cycle...

[Whatmatters]

when running a mild test only cycle (first cycle) at around 250-500mg/week, will i run into any sides?? what ancilllaries/post cycle therapy will i need? i especially don't want to get shut down because i do have a girlfriend and i don't want her to know/suspect i'm on anything

WM

 

[Texas Ranger]

WM, this is not a flame bro, but you REALLY need to do some research. The search button is your friend!! Plus, to help you we need stats(ie.age, training experience, etc...). There are a bunch of posts and profiles on the sides of Test. Check them out, brother! Either way, good luck.

 

[doublebicep]

when running a mild test only cycle (first cycle) at around 250-500mg/week, will i run into any sides?? what ancilllaries/post cycle therapy will i need? i especially don't want to get shut down because i do have a girlfriend and i don't want her to know/suspect i'm on anything

WM

No offense intended but saying:

? i especially don't want to get shut down because i do have a girlfriend and i don't want her to know/suspect i'm on anything

makes no sense. How would she know you where shutdown? I think you are confusing issue here bro... On test you will be shutdown but how on earth would she know? You sex drive should be higher then normal!

I have to agree with Texas Ranger. You need to do more research. It seems like you are taking short cuts.

 

[40butpumpin]

when running a mild test only cycle (first cycle) at around 250-500mg/week, will i run into any sides?? what ancilllaries/post cycle therapy will i need? i especially don't want to get shut down because i do have a girlfriend and i don't want her to know/suspect i'm on anything

WM

When I've been shut down, my libido was non-existent. To me being shut down means that there's no endogenous and of course no exogenous test available. If that's the case, how can the libido be higher than normal? :confusued:

As far as your question, it really depends on how long you are on. A very short cycle I feel is relatively easy to bounce back from but a long one, even at a relatively low dose can shut you down harder. What you're essentially doing is telling your body that it doesn't need to provide test because it's already there. Being on a long time is worse because your body stays in the dormant state longer and the glands essentially atrophe. You can get your self back on line if it's not too long with HCG and for some, Clomid. A short cycle can be as little as two weeks and a longer one that is typical of a "normal" cycle is between 8 and 12 weeks.

I'd appreciate knowing how old you are.

But what you'd need is maybe a low dose of an anti-aromatase like arimidex during the test cycle and HCG immediately when you finish for two weeks and if you so choose, some clomid.

I hope that helps some.

 

[Whatmatters]

i don't see any of that as flaming, i did search but i didn't find the answers to those questions. i'll keep trying though

To me being shut down means that there's no endogenous and of course no exogenous test available. If that's the case, how can the libido be higher than normal? :confusued:

This was exactly my concern...anyone else can explain this too me???

I'm 23 by the way...
WM

 

[40butpumpin]

What's to explain? When you're shut down, you're just that: shut down. What you want to do is avoid getting shut down. You do that by not staying on for an irresponsibly long period of time and by using the proper recovery med's to get your endogenous test rolling again, namely HCG. Arimidex is again, an anti-aromatase which will disallow the conversion of test to estrogen. I personally feel that if you're on not-to-extreme doses of test and your body fat is not excessive you may not even need arimidex. It is probably a good idea to have some on hand, however, if you experience bloat. But on the other hand if you're using prop, bloat shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Tricepratus]

I agree with 40butpumpin. Good advice and explanation. I think that you, whatmatters, dont need to search more with that advice

 

[TECH ONE]

What's to explain? When you're shut down, you're just that: shut down. What you want to do is avoid getting shut down. You do that by not staying on for an irresponsibly long period of time and by using the proper recovery med's to get your endogenous test rolling again, namely HCG. Arimidex is again, an anti-aromatase which will disallow the conversion of test to estrogen. I personally feel that if you're on not-to-extreme doses of test and your body fat is not excessive you may not even need arimidex. It is probably a good idea to have some on hand, however, if you experience bloat. But on the other hand if you're using prop, bloat shouldn't be an issue.

Great advice! As far as what kind of test you should use, thats up to you, but i would try and get your hands on some test enan or test cyp. Your cycle should look similar to this:

Week 8-10 Test (enanthate) @ 250-500mg/week
Then start Clomid two weeks after last test shot.

Always have some "nolva" on hand just in case some gyno signs pop up!!!! You probably won't need any anti-E's (to control bloat), but they wont hurt you to use them thru-out your cycle (ex. L-dex @ 0.5mg ED or EOD from week 1 to last day of clomid)
Good luck with your cycle bro!!

 

[Whatmatters]

thanx for the input....is there anywhere else i should be researching though....books, other sites? any recommendations would eb appreciated!
WM

 

[40butpumpin]

thanx for the input....is there anywhere else i should be researching though....books, other sites? any recommendations would eb appreciated!
WM

Nelson Montana's new book. You can purchase it through EF or maybe PM him about how to purchase it.