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Test not kicking in??

mike12

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Im 4 1/2 weeks into my cycle:

week 1-12 test cyp 750mg/week
week 1-10 deca 500mg/week

I have taken a test enanthate only cycle 500mg/week about a year ago and it was great. Libido, muscle gain, feel good sense was all there. However this time I see the muscle gain and strength already thru the roof but not so much libido or that feeling u usually get on test. that (everything is good calm confident feeling) kinda hard to explain but anyone been on test should know what i mean. Anyways wondering why that hasnt kicked in yet, is it because of the deca? Should I up my test to 1g for the remaining weeks? any thoughts are apreciated. thanks
 
Im 4 1/2 weeks into my cycle:

week 1-12 test cyp 750mg/week
week 1-10 deca 500mg/week

I have taken a test enanthate only cycle 500mg/week about a year ago and it was great. Libido, muscle gain, feel good sense was all there. However this time I see the muscle gain and strength already thru the roof but not so much libido or that feeling u usually get on test. that (everything is good calm confident feeling) kinda hard to explain but anyone been on test should know what i mean. Anyways wondering why that hasnt kicked in yet, is it because of the deca? Should I up my test to 1g for the remaining weeks? any thoughts are apreciated. thanks

It's fine. You don't have to feel like a raging horny maniac to have good test. If you are already getting real strong mass and strangth gains, you are fine.
 
Aromatization and high SBHG.
 
Cabergoline- the latest in libido enhancement

Cabergoline increases the levels of dopamine through its action of stimulating D2 receptor sites, it is officially approved to assist in the treatment of Parkinson’s disease, as well as treat states of prolactinoma (i.e. prevent breast development in men and reduce excess milk secretion in women).

However, cabergoline (brand name Dostinex has been described as being able to do everything that Viagra can’t! This is because rather than induce an erection (as Viagra can); cabergoline has been shown to improve libido, orgasm and ejaculation (which Viagra has not).

Cabergoline is from the dopaminergic family of drugs that increase the level of dopamine and also decreases the levels of the hormone prolactin. Prolactin is the hormone secreted in women after giving birth and to enhance their lactation for breast feeding. However, prolactin has recently been shown to be an inhibitor to a healthy libido, this may help explain why many women have a low sex drive after giving birth- whilst they are breast feeding. But men can also suffer from prolactinoma (high levels of prolactin) leading to a lack of sex drive- as well as developing breasts, particularly as prolactin levels tend to increase for most men with age.

Recently it has been discovered that prolactin is released immediately after an ejaculation and may be part of the reason men like to go sleep after sex with no will for further love making.

Cabergoline has been proven to significantly decrease prolactin and in so doing increase the sex drive (libido) substantially. There have been reports of enhanced and multiple orgasms as well as stronger ejaculations.

To date, bromocriptine has been the main drug of choice to reduce prolactin levels, however clinical studies have confirmed that cabergoline is much more effective in this regard. For example in 450 tested subjects over 8-weeks 77% of the subjects had their prolactin levels returned to normal using 0.5mg of cabergoline twice a week, compared to 59% of subjects using bromocriptine at 2.5mg twice a day. Furthermore, side effects were far fewer in the cabergoline group, recorded at 2% of incidences compared with 60% of those taking bromocriptine.

One fascinating trial on 60 healthy males, between the ages of 22 and 31 discovered that they needed a break of 19 minutes between love making. However, after taking cabergoline, they were able to have several orgasms within a few minutes!

Dr. Manfred Schedlowski, who was involved in this trial in Germany, said; “Cabergoline raised the libido to enable the male to orgasm again more quickly. We saw that prolactin rises after orgasm and then thought that maybe prolactin is a negative feedback system. Our subjects who took cabergoline had decreased prolactin levels and reported their orgasm was better and there was a shorter refractory period.”

Dr. Schedlowski went on to say; "We interviewed the subjects and found they were able to have multiple orgasms in very rapid succession. This is sitting very nicely with our hypothesis that orgasms and sexual drive are steered by prolactin and dopamine in the brain."

Furthermore, cabergoline had no side effects on men during the tests; this was reported in an article for the International Journal of Impotence Research. The researchers now plan to carry out trials to investigate whether cabergoline will have the same effect on women.

Another medical study by the Federico University, in Naples, Italy published in the European Journal of Endocrinology showed cabergoline to be very potent in increasing libido and sexual potency. The study examined cabergoline vs. bromocriptine (Parlodelâ) and proved that cabergoline was superior in all respects to bromicriptine.

17 males with prolactinoma were treated with cabergoline or bromocriptine for 6 months. All patients initially suffered from libido impairment, with 10 suffering from reduced sexual potency and 6 were infertile. Before treatment all patients suffered from low number of erections and had a low sperm count. After 1 month of treatment prolactin levels were significantly reduced in both groups of patients. A notable increase in the number of erections during the first 3 months was recorded and continued throughout the 6 months of treatment. However the improvements in seminal fluid parameters and sexual function were more evident and rapid in patients treated with cabergoline. A significant increase in the serum levels of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone were also recorded. At the beginning of treatment, mild side-effects were recorded in 2 patients using cabergoline compared to 5 in the bromocriptine patients.

Conclusion It is now recognised that the stimulation of dopamine can enhance sexual arousal and this has been shown to occur with drugs such as bromocriptine, deprenyl and Sinemet®. Now that prolactin is being recognised as an inhibitor of sexual function and desire, a drug such as cabergoline that enhances dopamine levels and reduces prolactin levels is being heralded as a significant libido enhancer- despite the fact that it has not yet been approved for this purpose.

Dosage:
Take 0.25mg or 0.5mg no more than twice per week, unless treating a serious medical disorder whereupon the dosage may differ according to your physician's guidance, usually built up slowly to no more than 1mg twice weekly.

Side effects:
Nausea, headache, dizziness and constipation.

Caution:
Cabergoline can contraindicate with psychoactive and hypotensive drugs such as phenothiazines, butyrophenones, thioxanthenes and metoclopramides. Furthermore caution must be advised if taken concurrently with other dopamine (D2) enhancing drugs, such as bromocriptine, deprenyl and Sinemet®. Although often dependant on the dosages used, these should only be administered concurrently under a physician's guidance. Cabergoline’s effects can also be exaggerated when combined with other ergots, including hydergine and nicergoline, particularly those who may be sensitive to them. Cabergoline must not be used by pregnant or lactating women.
 
deca is a libido killer... thats why sources sell cialis... anyway if your getting your gains good brotha..

pop some cialis and knok the bottom out
 
I use cialis good stuff.. But if u got prolactin build up it's kinda like pouring water on a burnt down house... Still not goin to get ur nut off
 
Im 4 1/2 weeks into my cycle:

week 1-12 test cyp 750mg/week
week 1-10 deca 500mg/week

I have taken a test enanthate only cycle 500mg/week about a year ago and it was great. Libido, muscle gain, feel good sense was all there. However this time I see the muscle gain and strength already thru the roof but not so much libido or that feeling u usually get on test. that (everything is good calm confident feeling) kinda hard to explain but anyone been on test should know what i mean. Anyways wondering why that hasnt kicked in yet, is it because of the deca? Should I up my test to 1g for the remaining weeks? any thoughts are apreciated. thanks

You should notice its effects real soon. Perhaps you need some
PROVIRON to help free up bound testosterone.
 
I think i didnt explain it properly. I have no problem getting an erection and not shooting blanks either. But on test i usually get this cocky superman (for lack of a better word) feeling like nothing bothers u just a relaxed sense of well being just feel good and energized all day. but now i feel drained all day and no happy feeling. That feeling ppl off cycle get the next morning after sex. might sound weird its hard to explain. I do have adex on hand. should i start with that .25eod? would that help shbg too? my last cycle i didnt use any ai and still had that feeling.
 
I think i didnt explain it properly. I have no problem getting an erection and not shooting blanks either. But on test i usually get this cocky superman (for lack of a better word) feeling like nothing bothers u just a relaxed sense of well being just feel good and energized all day. but now i feel drained all day and no happy feeling. That feeling ppl off cycle get the next morning after sex. might sound weird its hard to explain. I do have adex on hand. should i start with that .25eod? would that help shbg too? my last cycle i didnt use any ai and still had that feeling.

You are using a lot more gear this time. Lethargy can be a side effect of high amounts of androgen use.
 
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