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noodles1010

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Just had my bloods ran again the other day. My total test is 323 after almost 9 mos. wtf is going on?? I was 432 before.
 
29 first cycle 9mos ago 600mg test e 250mg deca 40mg day anavar. No ai.
Pct was hcgenerate, forged steel, forma
It was a botched first cycle. My test before was 432. I attempted to run test before I got that level but had to stop cause I had a reaction to the sust I tried to run. Did 3 shots maybe.
 
My Lh and fsh are normal range. Waiting for the results. Going to endo tomorrow ill get the full set of results
 
Btw I'm not retarded I know how to cycle properly now. That botched cycle is what made this home in the first place.
 
no. my first cycle was this...
week 1-3 sust 250 2x week. - had a bad reaction to the sust or maybe it was just that i got sick idk... stopped and didnt run a cycle until about 6-7 mos later...that cycle was...
week 1-7 t400 2x week...
5-12 deca @ 250mg wk
6-12 anavar @ 40mg day split
ran out of t400.. jumped to test e..
7-14 test e 600mg week

ran no ai.

pct was forma, forged steel, hcgenerate... then blasted hcg @ i think 1000iu week for 3 weeks split dosed..
then was running unleashed, daa, and hcgenerate... me and needto were trying to raise levels... the guy who was supposed to walk me through my pct got locked up... thats what brought me to ef in the first place.
 
How are you feeling now though? Did you get your estrogen level tested? Your E2 level would have been through the roof after that cycle with no AI, E2 could still be high. Plus it can take a long, long time to recover from a 12 week deca cycle. Deca has a very long acting ester attached to it. I've heard of people saying up to a couple years to get totally back to normal after deca. That's why I would never touch it even though I have some sitting at home.
 
If ur lh fsh is with then range you in the healing process. Deca can stay in your system for upto 18 months. Whats your estrogen and progesterone look like?
 
thanks for the concern guys... ill find out everything tomorrow... ill post up all my levels once i get em...
i feel kinda lazy... then again havent gone to the gym in about 3 mos... i know im a lazy fuck, but as we speak im still in my office working... i got promoted to vice president and now i work 10-12 hour days.. gotta make myself indispensable... it fuckin blows... i miss the gym.. that was my place to blow off steam and i really enjoyed it. either or, im not sure if im just stressed and over worked or just low t is knocking me out.. my mind wants to go to the gym but the body wont allow it. can anyone relate?
 
Sounds like you shut down your natural testosterone production. Perhaps... Also the stress of your job 10-12 work days sounds like it might hinder recovery somewhat (but that's my theory).

After my cycles, I prefer the gels like androgel to get my t-production back/levels. For balancing your t-levels out and bringing natural testosterone production back, I've had good results with testosterone gels.

They've helped me bounce back my natural levels pretty well without causing too much other difficulties to worry about. I use them for about two months, and then jump off it without much negative side-effect.
 
Also how do you recover from test by feeding your body more test? Makes no sense bro. I'd have to see it to believe it. Not saying it didn't work. Just sayin I gotta see it
 
Do I run my next cycle of test tbol proviron and anavar and see if I recover better or do I risk fucking myself up even more? Would I be able to recover better than I am now?
 
noodles1010 said:
thanks for the concern guys... ill find out everything tomorrow... ill post up all my levels once i get em...
i feel kinda lazy... then again havent gone to the gym in about 3 mos... i know im a lazy fuck, but as we speak im still in my office working... i got promoted to vice president and now i work 10-12 hour days.. gotta make myself indispensable... it fuckin blows... i miss the gym.. that was my place to blow off steam and i really enjoyed it. either or, im not sure if im just stressed and over worked or just low t is knocking me out.. my mind wants to go to the gym but the body wont allow it. can anyone relate?
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First off Congrats on the promotion.
But don't let that hold you back. I work 12 hour days 5 days a week and an 8 hour shift on Saturday. I still make it to the gym 5 days a week. After that many hours your body wants to just loaf and eat bad food. Force yourself to get to the gym, once you're there you will feel so much better.
 
rambleJ535 said:
First off Congrats on the promotion.
But don't let that hold you back. I work 12 hour days 5 days a week and an 8 hour shift on Saturday. I still make it to the gym 5 days a week. After that many hours your body wants to just loaf and eat bad food. Force yourself to get to the gym, once you're there you will feel so much better.
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Thanks bud... I agree bro. Gotta lite a fire under my ass. 3 mos is just too long.
 
well the deca could theoretically be causing a long term problem with your HPTA. thats the harsh reality. the fact you didn't run an AI and your progesterone went out of control could have thrown things off.

also what the dude said i agree with the extra stress from your job is gonna drive down your T levels for sure, not healthy at all. if you are not able to go to the gym then it will drop more as well. however he is wrong that you should run T gel, let your body fully recover first.

i would be hitting the natty T boosters in the mean time. keep testing yourself over the next couple months and hopefully things will gravitate higher and higher. you gotta figure out a way to not stress out so much with work and get your head right. also i think it was you that had a baby in another thread? the stress of being a new father is definately gonna drop your T as well, and i agree with the theory that nature tells you to put a cap on it when you have a kid, its natures way of preventing over population. so everytime you have a kid your T drops a bit.. there has been studies that after a guy has a baby his prolactin levels jump up, you can google that but its pretty cool stuff.. call it evolution at work
 
stevesmi said:
well the deca could theoretically be causing a long term problem with your HPTA. thats the harsh reality. the fact you didn't run an AI and your progesterone went out of control could have thrown things off.

also what the dude said i agree with the extra stress from your job is gonna drive down your T levels for sure, not healthy at all. if you are not able to go to the gym then it will drop more as well. however he is wrong that you should run T gel, let your body fully recover first.

i would be hitting the natty T boosters in the mean time. keep testing yourself over the next couple months and hopefully things will gravitate higher and higher. you gotta figure out a way to not stress out so much with work and get your head right. also i think it was you that had a baby in another thread? the stress of being a new father is definately gonna drop your T as well, and i agree with the theory that nature tells you to put a cap on it when you have a kid, its natures way of preventing over population. so everytime you have a kid your T drops a bit.. there has been studies that after a guy has a baby his prolactin levels jump up, you can google that but its pretty cool stuff.. call it evolution at work
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My girl and son just moved in. Baby is 5 from her first marriage but I'm the only dad he's ever known. Anyway, stress could be it...
Explain about the deca for me a little more in depth... What could have happened here?
Would running my cycle help this by "restarting" everything? It's been damn near 9-11 mos since my cycle
 
noodles1010 said:
My girl and son just moved in. Baby is 5 from her first marriage but I'm the only dad he's ever known. Anyway, stress could be it...
Explain about the deca for me a little more in depth... What could have happened here?
Would running my cycle help this by "restarting" everything? It's been damn near 9-11 mos since my cycle
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I have worked with guys who have run nandrolone incorrectly at young ages whose T levels never rebounded even years after use. and they decided to go on HRT (which to me is a major mistake)

there is something about throwing off your hormones at a young age that causes long term problems like this. you could try running a PCT now but before we get into all that I do want to see your entire bloods
 
Fuckin blast and cruise. You're old enough.

And if you want the gym, you'll find a way to make it happen.

If you dont want it, you'll find an excuse.
 
Criminal10dinC said:
Fuckin blast and cruise. You're old enough.

And if you want the gym, you'll find a way to make it happen.

If you dont want it, you'll find an excuse.
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if he blasts and cruise it will suppress him further and when he eventually comes off his HPTA will be further damaged.

you should always be fully recovered before jumping back on.

29 isn't old at all.. a bodybuilder doesn't even peak till his late 30's, early 40's. he still has years of cycling before he needs to even worry about cruising or HRT
 
stevesmi said:
if he blasts and cruise it will suppress him further and when he eventually comes off his HPTA will be further damaged.

you should always be fully recovered before jumping back on.

29 isn't old at all.. a bodybuilder doesn't even peak till his late 30's, early 40's. he still has years of cycling before he needs to even worry about cruising or HRT
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Years of cycling= happy Greg. I love being on. I feel amazing. Like captain America of some shit lol
 
Ok so these are my levels...
29/male

Cortisol 17.6
Dhea 213
Shbg 24
Total test 326
Free test 55.4
Igf1 278
Lh 3.3
Fsh 3.1
Prolactin 7.3
Estradiol 39
 
stevesmi said:
your body is functioning. you most certainly don't need HRT thats for sure

you have 2 options.. you can run a PCT or you can stick with natty supps. either way need to workout and lay off the stress.
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He's gonna put me on hcg probably 2000iu 2-3 times week for two mos and a anti estro if I need it
Ill get in the gym too...
 
mrbean19 said:
Sounds like you shut down your natural testosterone production. Perhaps... Also the stress of your job 10-12 work days sounds like it might hinder recovery somewhat (but that's my theory).

After my cycles, I prefer the gels like androgel to get my t-production back/levels. For balancing your t-levels out and bringing natural testosterone production back, I've had good results with testosterone gels.

They've helped me bounce back my natural levels pretty well without causing too much other difficulties to worry about. I use them for about two months, and then jump off it without much negative side-effect.
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Don;t listen to this.
 
noodles1010 said:
Ok so these are my levels...
29/male

Cortisol 17.6
Dhea 213
Shbg 24
Total test 326
Free test 55.4
Igf1 278
Lh 3.3
Fsh 3.1
Prolactin 7.3
Estradiol 39
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SBGH and estro are a bit high. I suggest running double dose UNLEASHED for 2 months with 1/4 tab of a-dex EOD. I guarantee those numbers will be a lot better and you'll feel a lot better too.
 
Nelson Montana said:
SBGH and estro are a bit high. I suggest running double dose UNLEASHED for 2 months with 1/4 tab of a-dex EOD. I guarantee those numbers will be a lot better and you'll feel a lot better too.
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So dont listen to the doc and run that? No hcg for two mos 2000iu 3x wk? If you know this works Nelson ill do it but my clock is running out. I don't want to stabilize at this Test level...
Are you sure about this?
 
stevesmi said:
i would go the natty route first, i agree with nelson... also some meditation and yoga would go a long way ..... if that doesnt work then do the hcg then a small dose of serm with daa... u will be fine stop worrying
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Ok. Ill stock pile some unleashed, double dosed for two mos. a dex @ what dose eod for how long? 4 weeks? Ill get my lazy ass back in the gym and ill start trying to relax. I'm a bit vicious lately.
 
Dude 300 isnt even "low"

I mean, it is in terms of gear heads and shit. But as for the way you feel, i.e. the lack of energy, not going to the gym, etc.... That's normal. Who wants to go work 12 hour days? No one jumps out of bed in the morning excited about slaving away for money....

Working out is obviously not a passion for you, it sounds like more of a recreational hobby.

And to me it sounds like you are just looking for answers in chemical form.

Clean your diet up, i bet you eat like shit. Hit the gym man, and hit it hard. That will alleviate alot of your stress an you will sleep better.

Maybe try some supps or whatever, but i feel like you are using all this as an excuse to run gear and shit.

All of this is just advice, do whatever the fuck you wanna do. {like bombing me as i use my tapatalk ;) }
 
In the future run a serm in ur pct if its a 14-ish week cycle bro.
I'll run clomid in every post cycle over 5-6 wks.

And if, after a few months, its not leveling out, take steves solid advice and go at if from all angles... hcg, clomid and natty route.
 
Criminal10dinC said:
Dude 300 isnt even "low"

I mean, it is in terms of gear heads and shit. But as for the way you feel, i.e. the lack of energy, not going to the gym, etc.... That's normal. Who wants to go work 12 hour days? No one jumps out of bed in the morning excited about slaving away for money....

Working out is obviously not a passion for you, it sounds like more of a recreational hobby.

And to me it sounds like you are just looking for answers in chemical form.

Clean your diet up, i bet you eat like shit. Hit the gym man, and hit it hard. That will alleviate alot of your stress an you will sleep better.

Maybe try some supps or whatever, but i feel like you are using all this as an excuse to run gear and shit.

All of this is just advice, do whatever the fuck you wanna do. {like bombing me as i use my tapatalk ;) }
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First off you don't know shit about me so take a step back. Second your advice means piss to me. Your an ex junkie popping shit into your body and u don't have a clue what your doing. Third you couldn't train half as hard as I do and u simply don't understand the importance of a career not the job at Wendy's like you have or do you not work? .. Your a waste of life and a useless pawn we all laugh at on here. So before you sit there and try to give horrible advice to someone and act like you know, take two steps back, sit down, and learn something.
Yea, I'm gonna keep bombing you because I can't stand to read one more of your ridiculous posts... :) moron
 
oxymoron said:
In the future run a serm in ur pct if its a 14-ish week cycle bro.
I'll run clomid in every post cycle over 5-6 wks.

And if, after a few months, its not leveling out, take steves solid advice and go at if from all angles... hcg, clomid and natty route.
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Yea... Learned a lot the hard way. The bright side is I know a looot more than I did before. I researched enough that I understand the compounds now, what they do and why. What the possibilities are and how to combat the sides, protect organs ect.
This whole thing now, I know what to do, but there is more than one way to skin a cat... I'm just trying to figure out what method is going to work the best to get the end result I'm looking for. I'm going back to gym tomorrow and get back to it. Ill more than likely run the unleashed and take the adex. If I don't get results in a month or so, ill run the hcg.
All good advice bro. Thanks
 
noodles1010 said:
So dont listen to the doc and run that? No hcg for two mos 2000iu 3x wk? If you know this works Nelson ill do it but my clock is running out. I don't want to stabilize at this Test level...
Are you sure about this?
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I was telling you not to listen to the guy telling you to take androgel.

You can use the HCG to get things up and running but 2000iu's 3x's a week is insane. 1000 i.. 2 days apart is all you need and all you can use. If your doc told you that you should smack him in the face and shove the rest of that HCG up his ass.

Follow the UNLEASHED and a-dex procedure I mentioned. You may want to pick up some POST CYCLE and DAA as well. You'll feel better in a couple of weeks.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I was telling you not to listen to the guy telling you to take androgel.

You can use the HCG to get things up and running but 2000iu's 3x's a week is insane. 1000 i.. 2 days apart is all you need and all you can use. If your doc told you that you should smack him in the face and shove the rest of that HCG up his ass.

Follow the UNLEASHED and a-dex procedure I mentioned. You may want to pick up some POST CYCLE and DAA as well. You'll feel better in a couple of weeks.
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ok.. ive got 2 bottles of unleashed and a bottle of post cycle and some daa chews for my next cycle i had laid out.. ill use them not... i have no adex though.. got clomid and some liquid aromasin from the last cycle... ill pick some up or just have the doc script it to me. .25mg of adex eod for 2 mos?
 
Criminal10dinC said:
Truth hurts.


U mad bro?
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Hey this isn't CnC. Please show some respect in here and please no names or games.
Thank you in advance for following the rules.


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TheRippedReverend said:
You know what am about sick of you! Show some dam respect you know shit about aas!

Your the only fn person ive seen that jooses and still looks like he dont work out!

You hv no knowlege at all stick to ur bs you tube man am not playin!
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Don't sweat this punk bro. What goes around comes around. He'll wind up on the down side eventually (we've all been there) and well all be there to hear about it... And smile :) let him make a YouTube video about it and see how much help he gets.
Lets all stick to the topic here and ignore the ignorance.
 
noodles1010 said:
Don't sweat this punk bro. What goes around comes around. He'll wind up on the down side eventually (we've all been there) and well all be there to hear about it... And smile :) let him make a YouTube video about it and see how much help he gets.
Lets all stick to the topic here and ignore the ignorance.
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Noodles, u r a joke
 
Criminal you've been dancing around being banned for a little while now.

Need to watch your additude and give up the smartass tough guy routine, or take it to C&C
 
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