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Test/equipoise kick in time??

Youve got crap prop or you dont respond or your diet/training/recovery/life is crap
Prop works in a few days tops
 
Hell technically even ethanate esters are still breaking down and giving you higher than normal levels within days of injecting, obviously just at a slower rate, so your body is using the substances almost right away in some for or fashion. If you arent seeing any results by now, as already stated, your gear is weak or the fault is with ur diet and workouts.

Maybe you should post up your diet and training for us to look at and see if we spot any issues and please be honest and dont BS because then we cant help you.

-Legacy
 
i just dont buy it when people say that test prop works in a few days...but anyway here's my diet:

meal 1: 8 egg whites and 2 cups oatmeal
meal 2: meal replacement with apple
meal 3: chicken breast with 1 cup brown rice and 2 cups broccoli
meal 4: sweet potato with smaller container of fat free cottage cheese
meal 5: meal replacement
meal 6: 10 oz tuna with 1 cup lima beans and 1 cup cauliflower
meal 7: 2 scoops casein protein

work outs: 2 days on/2 days off
day 1: chest and back with some arms and shoulders
day 2: legs
 
What dont you buy? The chemicals are IN YOUR SYSTEM being used within minutes to hours after injection. Juist because mentally youre telling yourself "I dont feel anything" doesnt mean that the CHEMICALS arent being used in your body. Do you think they are just sitting in there and then go away, not being a smart ass, just trying to explain that the CHEMICALS are there and obviously doing something...

-Legacy
 
i just dont buy it when people say that test prop works in a few days...but anyway here's my diet:

meal 1: 8 egg whites and 2 cups oatmeal
meal 2: meal replacement with apple
meal 3: chicken breast with 1 cup brown rice and 2 cups broccoli
meal 4: sweet potato with smaller container of fat free cottage cheese
meal 5: meal replacement
meal 6: 10 oz tuna with 1 cup lima beans and 1 cup cauliflower
meal 7: 2 scoops casein protein

work outs: 2 days on/2 days off
day 1: chest and back with some arms and shoulders
day 2: legs


Doesn't matter if you buy it or not. Prop is only active for 48 hours. After that, it's gone. So what do you think is kicking in weeks later?
 
I am on 250mg of test e and 500mg Eq a week.
I only shoot once and i inject the intire 3ml at once and wait 7days before injecting again.

Strength wise i have gone up so far:
Benchpress 100kg x 5reps -> 110kg x 4reps
Shoulderpress 30kg x 6reps -> 34kg x 8reps
Deadlift 155kg x 5reps -> 170kg x 4reps
Fsquat 80kg x 5reps -> 90kg x 5reps
Biceps 26kg x 5reps -> 28kg x 6reps

Chinups/pullups from BW x 10reps -> BW+7,5kg 8reps

Increase in weight:
2.06.11 = 84,8kg
11.06.11 = 86,4kg
20.06.11 = 86,4kg

Vascularity has improved on chest n shoulders
I defently feel like a "tightning feeling near my zonarplexus"
I now and then experience haveing trouble catching my breath

Hornyness has increased to unbeleaveable level, started in beginning of week 2.
Sometimes i go 3times a day, wake up in the middle of a sleep needing to, getting the hardzor if just thinking.

Things that i do expect and wait for:
Improved mass
more vascularity
increased cardio and endurance

think ill fire up for some before n after pictures when done, and thinking about adding either Wintrol or a PH at week 8.
plan was to run cycle for 10weeks, but think i will increase it to 16weeks
 
I am on 250mg of test e and 500mg Eq a week.
I only shoot once and i inject the intire 3ml at once and wait 7days before injecting again.

Strength wise i have gone up so far:
Benchpress 100kg x 5reps -> 110kg x 4reps
Shoulderpress 30kg x 6reps -> 34kg x 8reps
Deadlift 155kg x 5reps -> 170kg x 4reps
Fsquat 80kg x 5reps -> 90kg x 5reps
Biceps 26kg x 5reps -> 28kg x 6reps

Chinups/pullups from BW x 10reps -> BW+7,5kg 8reps

Increase in weight:
2.06.11 = 84,8kg
11.06.11 = 86,4kg
20.06.11 = 86,4kg

Vascularity has improved on chest n shoulders
I defently feel like a "tightning feeling near my zonarplexus"
I now and then experience haveing trouble catching my breath

Hornyness has increased to unbeleaveable level, started in beginning of week 2.
Sometimes i go 3times a day, wake up in the middle of a sleep needing to, getting the hardzor if just thinking.

Things that i do expect and wait for:
Improved mass
more vascularity
increased cardio and endurance

think ill fire up for some before n after pictures when done, and thinking about adding either Wintrol or a PH at week 8.
plan was to run cycle for 10weeks, but think i will increase it to 16weeks

you didn't tell us how long you've been on the cycle?

Also, you should always run more test than anything else (eq or deca) or you're gonna screw up ur libido...
 
Dude you must understand that roids work right away, alot of the roids are not made to increase musclemass dramaticly as we bodybuilders are wanting them to. Thats why we go heavy doses then people that are medicaly needing them

So they work right away, yes your testoesteron and other hormones will increase, but this does not mean that musclemass will be built right away nor strength. I think when people talk about kick-in time they are asking for when the results are visable?

Thats why many people think that steroids like EQ and Primo are not working properly untill week 6-8, they work right away and since EQ - Primo does not produce gains with water thats when people think they are not working, becouse they will not see a dramatic increase in mass untill the mass has been built up over the weeks.

And yeah your diet has to be better and solid when roiding, muscles arent build of roids but by food that the roids use to built em with.

correct me if am wrong ;P
 
Dude you must understand that roids work right away, alot of the roids are not made to increase musclemass dramaticly as we bodybuilders are wanting them to. Thats why we go heavy doses then people that are medicaly needing them

So they work right away, yes your testoesteron and other hormones will increase, but this does not mean that musclemass will be built right away nor strength. I think when people talk about kick-in time they are asking for when the results are visable?

Thats why many people think that steroids like EQ and Primo are not working properly untill week 6-8, they work right away and since EQ - Primo does not produce gains with water thats when people think they are not working, becouse they will not see a dramatic increase in mass untill the mass has been built up over the weeks.

And yeah your diet has to be better and solid when roiding, muscles arent build of roids but by food that the roids use to built em with.

correct me if am wrong ;P

ok, i listed my diet as per Legacy's request...and if all of you read my original question at the beginning, it was: how long does it take for the gear to kick in STRENGTH WISE?
 
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