Test/equipoise kick in time??

[ifmusclesmatter]

I've been on test prop 500mg for 3 weeks and eq 500mg for 2 weeks...my strength has not picked up yet...still about 20-30 lbs lower in my bench and incline presses from same past cycles...when typically should the test prop and eq kick in strength wise?

 

[Liquid 2009]

4-6 weeks

 

[zwhit]

The test should already be kickin in. EQ will take a while to reach its peak, 8 weeks or so. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be seeing some gains from it before then though

 

[goin on 4T]

The prop will be quick, you should feel it the first week in the body then the second week in the muscles, for me the EQ was both in the first week. That EQ was crazy it was like tren with out the crazyness. As far as strength that takes time, how is your diet? Same, worse or better? Supps?
You are not just going to walk into the gym and your bench be up 20lbs... GLTY

 

[Nighthawkk]

EQ kicked in for me around Week 7, ran it for 12. I think it's better suited with enanth or cyp though, saves you the jabs and if you worry about extra water, just run an AI. Its good stuff though when stacked

 

[arnoldisking]

I've been on test prop 500mg for 3 weeks and eq 500mg for 2 weeks...my strength has not picked up yet...still about 20-30 lbs lower in my bench and incline presses from same past cycles...when typically should the test prop and eq kick in strength wise?

test prop you should feel in a week. but in my case if i pin in my delts and bench i can never hit my max (because prop is fuking painful)

what were your past cycles?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Oh, how I can't stand the term "kick in."

Are you asking how long it takes to take effect, or how long before you see results?

As far as results, it could be anywhere from one week to a month to never.

As far as how long it takes to be active in the bloodstream and increasing anabolism? About an hour.

 

[zwhit]

I'm assuming he's asking when he'll feel the strength increases, pumps, and aggression in the gym. For me EQ took a while to see those. But test prop makes me horny as hell the day I inject and usually get stronger at the end of the last week.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'm assuming he's asking when he'll feel the strength increases, pumps, and aggression in the gym. For me EQ took a while to see those. But test prop makes me horny as hell the day I inject and usually get stronger at the end of the last week.

Well, with prop you get the full blast right away. Another aspect people forget is that the second week of using a steroid you actually have MORE in your system since the half life of the first weeks hit hasn't entirely dissipated. So it's fair to say that you should notice something within 2 weeks. If you don't, you're doing something wrong. Going on too soon after the last cycle is reason # 1.

 

[zwhit]

I'm assuming he's asking when he'll feel the strength increases, pumps, and aggression in the gym. For me EQ took a while to see those. But test prop makes me horny as hell the day I inject and usually get stronger at the end of the last week.

Meant to say get stronger at the end of the first week on prop

 

[-SD-]

Youve got crap prop or you dont respond or your diet/training/recovery/life is crap
Prop works in a few days tops

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Hell technically even ethanate esters are still breaking down and giving you higher than normal levels within days of injecting, obviously just at a slower rate, so your body is using the substances almost right away in some for or fashion. If you arent seeing any results by now, as already stated, your gear is weak or the fault is with ur diet and workouts.

Maybe you should post up your diet and training for us to look at and see if we spot any issues and please be honest and dont BS because then we cant help you.

-Legacy

 

[ifmusclesmatter]

i just dont buy it when people say that test prop works in a few days...but anyway here's my diet:

meal 1: 8 egg whites and 2 cups oatmeal
meal 2: meal replacement with apple
meal 3: chicken breast with 1 cup brown rice and 2 cups broccoli
meal 4: sweet potato with smaller container of fat free cottage cheese
meal 5: meal replacement
meal 6: 10 oz tuna with 1 cup lima beans and 1 cup cauliflower
meal 7: 2 scoops casein protein

work outs: 2 days on/2 days off
day 1: chest and back with some arms and shoulders
day 2: legs

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

What dont you buy? The chemicals are IN YOUR SYSTEM being used within minutes to hours after injection. Juist because mentally youre telling yourself "I dont feel anything" doesnt mean that the CHEMICALS arent being used in your body. Do you think they are just sitting in there and then go away, not being a smart ass, just trying to explain that the CHEMICALS are there and obviously doing something...

-Legacy

 

[Nelson Montana]

i just dont buy it when people say that test prop works in a few days...but anyway here's my diet:

meal 1: 8 egg whites and 2 cups oatmeal
meal 2: meal replacement with apple
meal 3: chicken breast with 1 cup brown rice and 2 cups broccoli
meal 4: sweet potato with smaller container of fat free cottage cheese
meal 5: meal replacement
meal 6: 10 oz tuna with 1 cup lima beans and 1 cup cauliflower
meal 7: 2 scoops casein protein

work outs: 2 days on/2 days off
day 1: chest and back with some arms and shoulders
day 2: legs

Doesn't matter if you buy it or not. Prop is only active for 48 hours. After that, it's gone. So what do you think is kicking in weeks later?

 

[Voijn]

I am on 250mg of test e and 500mg Eq a week.
I only shoot once and i inject the intire 3ml at once and wait 7days before injecting again.

Strength wise i have gone up so far:
Benchpress 100kg x 5reps -> 110kg x 4reps
Shoulderpress 30kg x 6reps -> 34kg x 8reps
Deadlift 155kg x 5reps -> 170kg x 4reps
Fsquat 80kg x 5reps -> 90kg x 5reps
Biceps 26kg x 5reps -> 28kg x 6reps

Chinups/pullups from BW x 10reps -> BW+7,5kg 8reps

Increase in weight:
2.06.11 = 84,8kg
11.06.11 = 86,4kg
20.06.11 = 86,4kg

Vascularity has improved on chest n shoulders
I defently feel like a "tightning feeling near my zonarplexus"
I now and then experience haveing trouble catching my breath

Hornyness has increased to unbeleaveable level, started in beginning of week 2.
Sometimes i go 3times a day, wake up in the middle of a sleep needing to, getting the hardzor if just thinking.

Things that i do expect and wait for:
Improved mass
more vascularity
increased cardio and endurance

think ill fire up for some before n after pictures when done, and thinking about adding either Wintrol or a PH at week 8.
plan was to run cycle for 10weeks, but think i will increase it to 16weeks

 

[ifmusclesmatter]

I am on 250mg of test e and 500mg Eq a week.
I only shoot once and i inject the intire 3ml at once and wait 7days before injecting again.

Strength wise i have gone up so far:
Benchpress 100kg x 5reps -> 110kg x 4reps
Shoulderpress 30kg x 6reps -> 34kg x 8reps
Deadlift 155kg x 5reps -> 170kg x 4reps
Fsquat 80kg x 5reps -> 90kg x 5reps
Biceps 26kg x 5reps -> 28kg x 6reps

Chinups/pullups from BW x 10reps -> BW+7,5kg 8reps

Increase in weight:
2.06.11 = 84,8kg
11.06.11 = 86,4kg
20.06.11 = 86,4kg

Vascularity has improved on chest n shoulders
I defently feel like a "tightning feeling near my zonarplexus"
I now and then experience haveing trouble catching my breath

Hornyness has increased to unbeleaveable level, started in beginning of week 2.
Sometimes i go 3times a day, wake up in the middle of a sleep needing to, getting the hardzor if just thinking.

Things that i do expect and wait for:
Improved mass
more vascularity
increased cardio and endurance

think ill fire up for some before n after pictures when done, and thinking about adding either Wintrol or a PH at week 8.
plan was to run cycle for 10weeks, but think i will increase it to 16weeks

you didn't tell us how long you've been on the cycle?

Also, you should always run more test than anything else (eq or deca) or you're gonna screw up ur libido...

 

[Voijn]

Dude you must understand that roids work right away, alot of the roids are not made to increase musclemass dramaticly as we bodybuilders are wanting them to. Thats why we go heavy doses then people that are medicaly needing them

So they work right away, yes your testoesteron and other hormones will increase, but this does not mean that musclemass will be built right away nor strength. I think when people talk about kick-in time they are asking for when the results are visable?

Thats why many people think that steroids like EQ and Primo are not working properly untill week 6-8, they work right away and since EQ - Primo does not produce gains with water thats when people think they are not working, becouse they will not see a dramatic increase in mass untill the mass has been built up over the weeks.

And yeah your diet has to be better and solid when roiding, muscles arent build of roids but by food that the roids use to built em with.

correct me if am wrong ;P

 

[Voijn]

i am in week 3, 3day. tuesday is inject day

 

[ifmusclesmatter]

Dude you must understand that roids work right away, alot of the roids are not made to increase musclemass dramaticly as we bodybuilders are wanting them to. Thats why we go heavy doses then people that are medicaly needing them

So they work right away, yes your testoesteron and other hormones will increase, but this does not mean that musclemass will be built right away nor strength. I think when people talk about kick-in time they are asking for when the results are visable?

Thats why many people think that steroids like EQ and Primo are not working properly untill week 6-8, they work right away and since EQ - Primo does not produce gains with water thats when people think they are not working, becouse they will not see a dramatic increase in mass untill the mass has been built up over the weeks.

And yeah your diet has to be better and solid when roiding, muscles arent build of roids but by food that the roids use to built em with.

correct me if am wrong ;P

ok, i listed my diet as per Legacy's request...and if all of you read my original question at the beginning, it was: how long does it take for the gear to kick in STRENGTH WISE?

 

[Voijn]

sorry about that bro, i skimmed your text.

Well i did feel a increase in strength at end of week 2, must be from the test dunno.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Strength is subjective to diet, training, how youre lifting, when youre getting your carbs, your energy levels, I mean most people NOTICE the difference in a week or two but thats because they look back 2 weeks and say "oh wow Im lifting more then I was". Your body is already making better use of the nutrients you are getting immediately so no matter what you should be able to start working to increase your weights within a few workouts as long as you are eating and resting properly.

-Legacy

 

[Voijn]

I always use my own Progression system, if i feel that i have more power. then i increase the weight dramaticly and fall down to 3reps.
Since 1-3reps produces more strength then mass, i build up towards doing 8reps.
Then yet again increase weight and fall to low reps.

Legacy so timeing a diet towards training time is going to optimize your strength and energy? and since they go up, and you lift heavyer you develop more strength wich then produces more mass?

I always start off with fruit in morning followed by clean protein, maybe this is not good?

 

[-SD-]

Youll just know when strength kicks in from gear usage if youre experienced. Not really any magic number for time but I can say for certain that you should feel something from test prop within 3 or 4 days TOPS. otherwise youve got crap gear, you dont respond to gear, your diet/training/life is fucked up. Thats all.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I always use my own Progression system, if i feel that i have more power. then i increase the weight dramaticly and fall down to 3reps.
Since 1-3reps produces more strength then mass, i build up towards doing 8reps.
Then yet again increase weight and fall to low reps.

Legacy so timeing a diet towards training time is going to optimize your strength and energy? and since they go up, and you lift heavyer you develop more strength wich then produces more mass?

I always start off with fruit in morning followed by clean protein, maybe this is not good?

I normally focus all of my daily carbs around lifting sessions. Carbs before workout gives you energy and helps fill your muscles for the workout along with a protein source...then after lifting I have a quick digesting carb and a large serving of protein so this stimulates the uptake of the protein into the muscles immediately following training.

-Legacy