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SaintLouis
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Just wondering why you say to not run deca and eq together? I have run it together a few times and got good results.Makavelli said:
SaintLouis
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But if that is all he has, then dont you think it would be okay for him to take both?Makavelli said:
bicepts101
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Makavelli said:
what makes them similair bro?....not simlair at all
crfpilot14
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i would run more test than deca...you wanger will thank you! 
hammertime30
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Makavelli said:
EQ is closer to test then to deca...estrogen based vs progesterone based...
Tux
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EQ and deca may have somewhat similar results, but they have different structures and different methods of action. There's no reason NOT to combine them. They won't somehow block each other from working as well b/c the end result is similar. As stated above, I'd just move the winny out past the EQ, 7 or 8-12. Otherwise, it's lower doses but looks good. Again, no reason not to combine EQ and deca.
bicepts101
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hammertime30 said:
odds are u will put on more size with deca. deca also promotes intramuscular fat....also the extra water will also promote better gains
instant.muscle
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intramuscular fat a good or bad thing?
Makavelli
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Tux said:
OK, I'll put it another way...I wouldn't go out of my way to combine them. If that's all I had and could not get more of one or the other, then I'd do it. They don't block each other, but it's like using D-Bol and Anadrol at the same time b/c you don't have enough to run one at a good dosage.
Tux
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Well that I'll agree with bro lol. For most people, they tend to get better results from one or the other. Personally, I pick EQ over deca every time. Only reason I'd run them together is if I had some joint aches that 200mg/week of deca took care of. Generally I do agree with you that it's best to just pick one of them, I just wanted to point out that there's no scientific reason not to. They won't interfere with each other, etc etc. He doesn't have enough of either one separately to do as much good, but both together will yield better results than the low dose single compound would. Like I've said before I like to play devil's advocate, or just point out that even though we *usually* do things one way, doesn't mean it's actually wrong to do it another way. I'd send you some Penguin karma mak but I've gotta spread it around some
Makavelli
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Tux said:Well that I'll agree with bro lol. For most people, they tend to get better results from one or the other. Personally, I pick EQ over deca every time. Only reason I'd run them together is if I had some joint aches that 200mg/week of deca took care of. Generally I do agree with you that it's best to just pick one of them, I just wanted to point out that there's no scientific reason not to. They won't interfere with each other, etc etc. He doesn't have enough of either one separately to do as much good, but both together will yield better results than the low dose single compound would. Like I've said before I like to play devil's advocate, or just point out that even though we *usually* do things one way, doesn't mean it's actually wrong to do it another way. I'd send you some Penguin karma mak but I've gotta spread it around some
I feel ya bro. I actually prefer EQ to deca also.
bicepts101
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flyin j said:Yeah interesting......Bump for some feedback on that one.
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Years ago I became fascinated with the potential role of intramuscular triglycerides (abbreviated as IMTG) as a fuel source in bodybuilding.
In 1997, diet and supplement guru Bill Phillips did an interview with a fellow named Torbjorn Akerfeldt regarding a new bodybuilding theory on nutrition which included a short mention on the importance of IMTG, a topic Mr. Akerfeldt felt American bodybuilding experts have long overlooked (11).
My ears really perked up when Akerfeldt noted that an increase in IMTG triggered protein synthesis in the body. For those of you ignorant of what increased protein synthesis does, we are indeed talking about bigger and stronger muscles. Then my eyebrow rose when he noted that high IMTG levels increased the "pump" in muscles more than when the muscle cells were full of glycogen (the stored form of carbohydrate).
Hmmm, fat is better than carbohydrate for getting the "pump", huh? That was surely going to ruffle some dietary feathers; think U.S. government food pyramid for starters. Now both my eyebrows were raised. To quote Akerfeldt on the benefits of intramuscular triglycerides: "They help trigger anabolism, they supply energy for your workouts, they help construct muscle cell membranes, and they have a cell-hydrating/cell-volumizing effect by sparing glycogen".
Shortly thereafter I read an article in which Sheel G. Anand interviewed Dr. Barry Sears of the popular Zone Diet and once again the topic convened around the role of IMTG utilization for bodybuilding purposes (12).
In this discussion Dr. Sears states that IMTG are actually the preferred source of fuel for the body during weight-training (anaerobic) exercise. Wow, yet another slap in the face to carbohydrates! Yep, intramuscular triglyceride as an aid to enhancing performance certainly got my attention. Could the fat inside your muscle cells really help you gain size and strength?
Is it the preferred source of fuel for muscles? Well folks, it appears maybe we have cast an inattentive focus on this topic for far too long ... let's see what opinions and research studies have to say about it shall we?
bicepts101
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for some reason people created the illussion that the 2 were, somehow, equal. when, accually the two are completly different...the only similarity eq and deca have are ester times
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