plurmurphy
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hey bros im trying to decide between test cyp or test enth which one do you think is better? Let me know Im trying to add it to my cycle haha.
dale_gribble said:Ive done both. Personally, I prefer cyp. Its a little longer acting than enanthate and I find it to be a little stronger, but both are pretty much the same.
booby said:so dale which is it?...cyp is a little stronger?...or they are pretty much the same?...lol
Yes, I know the molecular structure between the 2, could be a mental thing, but have you tried LSP cyp, maybe its a quality issue or over dosing of the product. Try it, and let me know.fergie said:cant beleive you guys....... they are the same fucking thing pritty much, one is not stronger than the other just diff half lives
thats good to know, i just started 3rd week with lsp cyp 1400mg/week.i cant wait 4 it to kick ingautho said:Yes, I know the molecular structure between the 2, could be a mental thing, but have you tried LSP cyp, maybe its a quality issue or over dosing of the product. Try it, and let me know.
booby said:so dale which is it?...cyp is a little stronger?...or they are pretty much the same?...lol
let me know what u think, i'm sure you'll be impressed.tommy77 said:thats good to know, i just started 3rd week with lsp cyp 1400mg/week.i cant wait 4 it to kick in
mormussle said:for some reason I just feel,the cyp a lot more. try almost every brand of enth. for some reason I just don't feel it.
KingQuadz said:Thats BS, theres no possible way you feel the cyp alot more than the Enanthate, unless you had some bunk test E. They are the same shit. If you dont feel it then its definately fake. Or unless your running a gram of cyp and comparing it to 250mg per week of enanthate
KingQuadz said:Thats BS, theres no possible way you feel the cyp alot more than the Enanthate, unless you had some bunk test E. They are the same shit. If you dont feel it then its definately fake. Or unless your running a gram of cyp and comparing it to 250mg per week of enanthate
dale_gribble said:Actually, you need to read some books on the differences between enanth and cyp They are both different from each other, and cyp has always been considered the longest acting test to this date. Another thing, I did 1g of enanth a week for about 3 months, and I felt it, but when I switched to cyp at the same dose, I felt it more. Do some research before you call BS bro.
Lifterforlife said:I would like to see your research. Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.
dale_gribble said:http://www.testosterones.com/cypionate.htm
Also, read Anabolics 2005-2006 for more references. Cyp is longer acting by about 1 week and after its peak time, it doesnt taper off quite as fast as enanth. Look, I dont care what anyone believes, but Im telling any of you that after doing allot of both, I could tell the difference. So hey, if you cant believe it, not my problem.
dale_gribble said:Actually, you need to read some books on the differences between enanth and cyp They are both different from each other, and cyp has always been considered the longest acting test to this date. Another thing, I did 1g of enanth a week for about 3 months, and I felt it, but when I switched to cyp at the same dose, I felt it more. Do some research before you call BS bro.
Lifterforlife said:Reading is all well and good, but interpretation is what counts. Go back over that link you provided, it says nothing about Cyp being longer acting or any of your references to test E. It is only compared to prop, and hopefully I don't have to tell you why that is.
And since you wanted to get a bit nasty about it, it is your problem, because apparantly your reading and or interpretation skills are lacking.
KingQuadz said:Ive heard people trying to compare the differences between the two for way too long, and all of the arguements end up the same way. Some prefer cyp some prefer enanthate, but dont try to tell me that there is a distinct difference between the two....
dale_gribble said:Not sure if you actually read the article, but it clearly states about half way down that cyp has always been considered slightly stronger than enanth, which is exactly what I stated much earlier. And I have felt the difference between the 2. So, I dont think its me thats misinterpreted anything here.
Testosterone cypionate is a long acting ester of testosterone which is increasingly difficult to find. Before the scheduling of anabolics in the U.S., this was the most common form of testosterone available to athletes. Cyp had gained a reputation as being slightly stronger than enanthate and became the testosterone of choice for many. Now that anabolics are controlled, this is an almost impossible find. In general, the only versions you'll find on the black market are Sten from Mexico, which contains 75mg cyp with 25 mg propionate along with some DHEA, and Testex from Leo in Spain which contains 250mg cypionate is a light resistant ampule. All versions of Upjohn and Steris in multi-dose vials should be looked at with extreme caution as they are very difficult to get on the black market. Counterfeits are quite easy to obtain. Real Steris products have the inking STAMPED into the box and the labels cannot be removed from the bottle. Any variation of that is definitely counterfeit. A running dosage of test cypionate is generally in the range of 200-600mg per week. When this was available for $20 per10ml bottle, many users would take a whopping 2000mg per week. This kind of dosage however, is unsafe, generally not needed and in today's day and age too costly. Should you find a legitimate American vial it would probably cost $200+. Quite often fakes are sold for as much so be careful.
Lifterforlife said:What you are referring to I made bold and italisized. You read this everywhere when discussing Cyp to BUY! It has never been shown to be fact, and I would love to see some research that backs this up. As I pointed out in my original post, it is highly, no almost impossible for Cyp to be stronger. I will again repost, this is information that can be backed up, contrary to the statement in the text you cite, which is simply a selling point.
Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.
crystalball said:maybe 600mg of cyp a week is the trick!
dale_gribble said:Look bro,
Just because your opinion is that nobody can tell the difference, doesnt mean that people cant. Im not sure why its so hard for you to believe me that I could tell the difference. Do you want me to be wrong so bad that you are willing to call me a liar? I dont give 2 fucks if you or anyone else believes me or not, but the facts are the facts, and if you dont believe me, then fuck off. Im not making this up and Im sure as hell not lying to you or anyone else, so stop tryiong to tell me Im fucking wrong If I know what I felt when I used both of them. If you cant tell the difference, then find a quality supllier and see what the difference really is.
Lifterforlife said:Discussion ended. Let the readers decide. I clearly stated the facts of the two. Peace...out.
fergie said:For the last time....... there is not a noticable difference between the two esters, they are practially the same thing
KingQuadz said:blah blah blah, can we end this dumb ass thread
bruce410 said:test is test boys, come on lets not let it kill us. both of you are good bros chizzill. i know that my boy marshallmadman does not lie and if he feels cyp is better i believe him, if dale likes it better he has run alot more than me, i believe him, if they tried to tell me something about tbol i would get a little annoyed if it was not true for me.
dale_gribble said:Yeah yeah, its always blah blah blah when someone else has a fucking opinion here. You "squaters" need to stick to the squat rack and let the rest of us real lifters do our thing.
And to the guys who want to vomit info someone else has given you, you better look into info for yourselves before you spout off at the mouth. Its easy to run around the board like a bunch of fucking lab rats taking in everything you possibly can and just repeating it to other people.
fergie said:Buddy, you are a goof
fergie said:Buddy, you are a goof
Lifterforlife said:Reading is all well and good, but interpretation is what counts. Go back over that link you provided, it says nothing about Cyp being longer acting or any of your references to test E. It is only compared to prop, and hopefully I don't have to tell you why that is.
And since you wanted to get a bit nasty about it, it is your problem, because apparantly your reading and or interpretation skills are lacking.
any acne issues with lsp cyp?>gautho said:let me know what u think, i'm sure you'll be impressed.
bigmouth2006 said:call me crazy but i felt like the cyp was stronger
promet1 said:Your not crazy...My hrt doc told me that the the labs told him that enth is not as stable as cyp and dose not stay consistent. The lab will not even make enth. Most if not all Hrt doc's perscribe Cyp or deca
Vascular Freak said:i only read the first post.....but seriously bros.....you have prop....then you have all the other long esters and which ALL do exactly the same thing....if you notice a difference between cyp and enanth it is because you used a different brand, batch, and or you where dieting/training/sleeping differently.....come on now.....
plurmurphy said:hey bros im trying to decide between test cyp or test enth which one do you think is better? Let me know Im trying to add it to my cycle haha.
plurmurphy said:hey bros im trying to decide between test testosterone cypionate or test testosterone enanthate which one do you think is better? Let me know Im trying to add it to my cycle haha.
im new to this site and dont know how to do alot of things but i just got one question where can i buy depo test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial and for how much
im new to this site and dont know how to do alot of things but i just got one question where can i buy depo test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial and for how much
Read the forum rules. Don't ask where to buy, and don't talk prices.what did he ask wrong.. so i know not to ask itt..?
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im new to this site and dont know how to do alot of things but i just got one question where can i buy depo test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial and for how much
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