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Test Cyp or Test Enth

Which did you like the best?


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plurmurphy

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hey bros im trying to decide between test cyp or test enth which one do you think is better? Let me know Im trying to add it to my cycle haha.
 
Ive done both. Personally, I prefer cyp. Its a little longer acting than enanthate and I find it to be a little stronger, but both are pretty much the same.
 
dale_gribble said:
Ive done both. Personally, I prefer cyp. Its a little longer acting than enanthate and I find it to be a little stronger, but both are pretty much the same.

so dale which is it?...cyp is a little stronger?...or they are pretty much the same?...lol
 
cant beleive you guys....... they are the same fucking thing pritty much, one is not stronger than the other just diff half lives
 
fergie said:
cant beleive you guys....... they are the same fucking thing pritty much, one is not stronger than the other just diff half lives
Yes, I know the molecular structure between the 2, could be a mental thing, but have you tried LSP cyp, maybe its a quality issue or over dosing of the product. Try it, and let me know.
 
If you like one better then IMO that product is either dosed properly or overdosed. Then there is Pharm grade but thats a whole new thread......
 
gautho said:
Yes, I know the molecular structure between the 2, could be a mental thing, but have you tried LSP cyp, maybe its a quality issue or over dosing of the product. Try it, and let me know.
thats good to know, i just started 3rd week with lsp cyp 1400mg/week.i cant wait 4 it to kick in
 
booby said:
so dale which is it?...cyp is a little stronger?...or they are pretty much the same?...lol

No, cyp is stronger and it is definitely longer acting, but at the end of the day, who is really going to know? I could tell the difference between enanth and cyp because I did long stretches of both and could see different effects.
 
tommy77 said:
thats good to know, i just started 3rd week with lsp cyp 1400mg/week.i cant wait 4 it to kick in
let me know what u think, i'm sure you'll be impressed.
 
mormussle said:
for some reason I just feel,the cyp a lot more. try almost every brand of enth. for some reason I just don't feel it.

Thats BS, theres no possible way you feel the cyp alot more than the Enanthate, unless you had some bunk test E. They are the same shit. If you dont feel it then its definately fake. Or unless your running a gram of cyp and comparing it to 250mg per week of enanthate
 
KingQuadz said:
Thats BS, theres no possible way you feel the cyp alot more than the Enanthate, unless you had some bunk test E. They are the same shit. If you dont feel it then its definately fake. Or unless your running a gram of cyp and comparing it to 250mg per week of enanthate

Technicaly, I know they are basically the same. Everyone is different, and everyone has thair favorits.Some guys like sust. others prefer one brand over another, even though the ingrediant is the same, is that bullshit?????????
 
Even though I prefer LSP Cyp, the last enanthate I used was Cidoteston, very good product.
 
I just switched mid-cycle from Test-Enan to T-400, which is a combo of Test E/Test Cyp/Test Sus. Can't tell the difference yet, because I just switched yesterday. Will update.
 
KingQuadz said:
Thats BS, theres no possible way you feel the cyp alot more than the Enanthate, unless you had some bunk test E. They are the same shit. If you dont feel it then its definately fake. Or unless your running a gram of cyp and comparing it to 250mg per week of enanthate

Actually, you need to read some books on the differences between enanth and cyp They are both different from each other, and cyp has always been considered the longest acting test to this date. Another thing, I did 1g of enanth a week for about 3 months, and I felt it, but when I switched to cyp at the same dose, I felt it more. Do some research before you call BS bro.
 
dale_gribble said:
Actually, you need to read some books on the differences between enanth and cyp They are both different from each other, and cyp has always been considered the longest acting test to this date. Another thing, I did 1g of enanth a week for about 3 months, and I felt it, but when I switched to cyp at the same dose, I felt it more. Do some research before you call BS bro.

I would like to see your research. Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.
 
Lifterforlife said:
I would like to see your research. Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.


http://www.testosterones.com/cypionate.htm

Also, read Anabolics 2005-2006 for more references. Cyp is longer acting by about 1 week and after its peak time, it doesnt taper off quite as fast as enanth. Look, I dont care what anyone believes, but Im telling any of you that after doing allot of both, I could tell the difference. So hey, if you cant believe it, not my problem.
 
dale_gribble said:
http://www.testosterones.com/cypionate.htm

Also, read Anabolics 2005-2006 for more references. Cyp is longer acting by about 1 week and after its peak time, it doesnt taper off quite as fast as enanth. Look, I dont care what anyone believes, but Im telling any of you that after doing allot of both, I could tell the difference. So hey, if you cant believe it, not my problem.

Reading is all well and good, but interpretation is what counts. Go back over that link you provided, it says nothing about Cyp being longer acting or any of your references to test E. It is only compared to prop, and hopefully I don't have to tell you why that is. :)

And since you wanted to get a bit nasty about it, it is your problem, because apparantly your reading and or interpretation skills are lacking.
 
dale_gribble said:
Actually, you need to read some books on the differences between enanth and cyp They are both different from each other, and cyp has always been considered the longest acting test to this date. Another thing, I did 1g of enanth a week for about 3 months, and I felt it, but when I switched to cyp at the same dose, I felt it more. Do some research before you call BS bro.


Ive heard people trying to compare the differences between the two for way too long, and all of the arguements end up the same way. Some prefer cyp some prefer enanthate, but dont try to tell me that there is a distinct difference between the two....
 
I like cyp the best. Upjohn Cyp is far and away the best Testosterone I've ever used. If you look at all the threads that people complain about pain, swelling, and test flu there is usually Enanthate in the mix.
 
Lifterforlife said:
Reading is all well and good, but interpretation is what counts. Go back over that link you provided, it says nothing about Cyp being longer acting or any of your references to test E. It is only compared to prop, and hopefully I don't have to tell you why that is. :)

And since you wanted to get a bit nasty about it, it is your problem, because apparantly your reading and or interpretation skills are lacking.

Not sure if you actually read the article, but it clearly states about half way down that cyp has always been considered slightly stronger than enanth, which is exactly what I stated much earlier. And I have felt the difference between the 2. So, I dont think its me thats misinterpreted anything here.

Testosterone cypionate is a long acting ester of testosterone which is increasingly difficult to find. Before the scheduling of anabolics in the U.S., this was the most common form of testosterone available to athletes. Cyp had gained a reputation as being slightly stronger than enanthate and became the testosterone of choice for many. Now that anabolics are controlled, this is an almost impossible find. In general, the only versions you'll find on the black market are Sten from Mexico, which contains 75mg cyp with 25 mg propionate along with some DHEA, and Testex from Leo in Spain which contains 250mg cypionate is a light resistant ampule. All versions of Upjohn and Steris in multi-dose vials should be looked at with extreme caution as they are very difficult to get on the black market. Counterfeits are quite easy to obtain. Real Steris products have the inking STAMPED into the box and the labels cannot be removed from the bottle. Any variation of that is definitely counterfeit. A running dosage of test cypionate is generally in the range of 200-600mg per week. When this was available for $20 per10ml bottle, many users would take a whopping 2000mg per week. This kind of dosage however, is unsafe, generally not needed and in today's day and age too costly. Should you find a legitimate American vial it would probably cost $200+. Quite often fakes are sold for as much so be careful.
 
KingQuadz said:
Ive heard people trying to compare the differences between the two for way too long, and all of the arguements end up the same way. Some prefer cyp some prefer enanthate, but dont try to tell me that there is a distinct difference between the two....

You know, the main physical difference I actually noticed between the 2 was strength. I did enanth for about 3 solid months and had good gains and good strength increases, but bro, when I switched over to cyp, the gains were much better and more noticable and the strength increase from cyp was much much better! The only thing I hated about cyp which enanth didnt give me was bacne. Other than that, cyp gave me what I needed ten fold.
 
dale_gribble said:
Not sure if you actually read the article, but it clearly states about half way down that cyp has always been considered slightly stronger than enanth, which is exactly what I stated much earlier. And I have felt the difference between the 2. So, I dont think its me thats misinterpreted anything here.

Testosterone cypionate is a long acting ester of testosterone which is increasingly difficult to find. Before the scheduling of anabolics in the U.S., this was the most common form of testosterone available to athletes. Cyp had gained a reputation as being slightly stronger than enanthate and became the testosterone of choice for many. Now that anabolics are controlled, this is an almost impossible find. In general, the only versions you'll find on the black market are Sten from Mexico, which contains 75mg cyp with 25 mg propionate along with some DHEA, and Testex from Leo in Spain which contains 250mg cypionate is a light resistant ampule. All versions of Upjohn and Steris in multi-dose vials should be looked at with extreme caution as they are very difficult to get on the black market. Counterfeits are quite easy to obtain. Real Steris products have the inking STAMPED into the box and the labels cannot be removed from the bottle. Any variation of that is definitely counterfeit. A running dosage of test cypionate is generally in the range of 200-600mg per week. When this was available for $20 per10ml bottle, many users would take a whopping 2000mg per week. This kind of dosage however, is unsafe, generally not needed and in today's day and age too costly. Should you find a legitimate American vial it would probably cost $200+. Quite often fakes are sold for as much so be careful.

What you are referring to I made bold and italisized. You read this everywhere when discussing Cyp to BUY! It has never been shown to be fact, and I would love to see some research that backs this up. As I pointed out in my original post, it is highly, no almost impossible for Cyp to be stronger. I will again repost, this is information that can be backed up, contrary to the statement in the text you cite, which is simply a selling point.

Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.
 
Lifterforlife said:
What you are referring to I made bold and italisized. You read this everywhere when discussing Cyp to BUY! It has never been shown to be fact, and I would love to see some research that backs this up. As I pointed out in my original post, it is highly, no almost impossible for Cyp to be stronger. I will again repost, this is information that can be backed up, contrary to the statement in the text you cite, which is simply a selling point.

Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.

Look bro,
Just because your opinion is that nobody can tell the difference, doesnt mean that people cant. Im not sure why its so hard for you to believe me that I could tell the difference. Do you want me to be wrong so bad that you are willing to call me a liar? I dont give 2 fucks if you or anyone else believes me or not, but the facts are the facts, and if you dont believe me, then fuck off. Im not making this up and Im sure as hell not lying to you or anyone else, so stop tryiong to tell me Im fucking wrong If I know what I felt when I used both of them. If you cant tell the difference, then find a quality supllier and see what the difference really is.
 
dale_gribble said:
Look bro,
Just because your opinion is that nobody can tell the difference, doesnt mean that people cant. Im not sure why its so hard for you to believe me that I could tell the difference. Do you want me to be wrong so bad that you are willing to call me a liar? I dont give 2 fucks if you or anyone else believes me or not, but the facts are the facts, and if you dont believe me, then fuck off. Im not making this up and Im sure as hell not lying to you or anyone else, so stop tryiong to tell me Im fucking wrong If I know what I felt when I used both of them. If you cant tell the difference, then find a quality supllier and see what the difference really is.

Discussion ended. Let the readers decide. I clearly stated the facts of the two. Peace...out.
 
For the last time....... there is not a noticable difference between the two esters, they are practially the same thing
 
Lifterforlife said:
Discussion ended. Let the readers decide. I clearly stated the facts of the two. Peace...out.

You didnt clearly state anything! All you did is barfed up some info that you've heard a million times without actually listening to the physical evidence. So listen, if you want to be some little asshole that sits behind a computer trying to discredit people because you heard from someone who heard from some else that there is no noticable difference, than so be it, but dont sit here and tell me there is no difference when I have seen it with my own eyes and have experienced it first hand.

End of story!
 
fergie said:
For the last time....... there is not a noticable difference between the two esters, they are practially the same thing

Maybe you cant see the difference Fergie, but rest assured that many others have noticed it, so your word doesnt mean shit in the grand sceme of things. Everyone is different and feels gear much differently, and Im not sure of your stats or your diet etc... but these things have a huge role in the effects of your juice, and my friend, I follow everything to a fucking tee!!! Some of you guys just do this to get big and whatever other reasons, but I do this very seriously and pay attention to every single thing I inject, the exact times I inject, the foods I take in and the exact times that every meal and bottle of water goes down my throat. Dont tell me Im wrong if you dont know me or know just what Ive done and for how long.
 
KingQuadz said:
blah blah blah, can we end this dumb ass thread

Yeah yeah, its always blah blah blah when someone else has a fucking opinion here. You "squaters" need to stick to the squat rack and let the rest of us real lifters do our thing. :D

And to the guys who want to vomit info someone else has given you, you better look into info for yourselves before you spout off at the mouth. Its easy to run around the board like a bunch of fucking lab rats taking in everything you possibly can and just repeating it to other people.
 
test is test boys, come on lets not let it kill us. both of you are good bros chizzill. i know that my boy marshallmadman does not lie and if he feels cyp is better i believe him, if dale likes it better he has run alot more than me, i believe him, if they tried to tell me something about tbol i would get a little annoyed if it was not true for me.
 
Here's my experiency with cyp and enth for those who are interested.
On the fifth day after inject for the first few injects of test e 250, I can feel as if it is not as stong or something, hard to describe. The same effect happens with cyp @ 250 1 day later then enth. I find cyp to be slightly stronger the enth but it takes longer by about a week or so to feel it as strongly as test e. My theory is blood levels take longer to build up with cyp, but they build up higher. Makes sense doesn't it?
I haven't heard of anyone else being able to feel it after first injection but i'm very in tune with my body.
 
bruce410 said:
test is test boys, come on lets not let it kill us. both of you are good bros chizzill. i know that my boy marshallmadman does not lie and if he feels cyp is better i believe him, if dale likes it better he has run alot more than me, i believe him, if they tried to tell me something about tbol i would get a little annoyed if it was not true for me.

Thank you :) as for tbol, Ill take your word on it anyday because Ive never done it.
 
try that shit, side free oral tren brotha. good shit, so is var at 100mg ed, amazing for strength, you are more of a drol test guy though i can tell lol
 
dale_gribble said:
Yeah yeah, its always blah blah blah when someone else has a fucking opinion here. You "squaters" need to stick to the squat rack and let the rest of us real lifters do our thing. :D

And to the guys who want to vomit info someone else has given you, you better look into info for yourselves before you spout off at the mouth. Its easy to run around the board like a bunch of fucking lab rats taking in everything you possibly can and just repeating it to other people.

Buddy, you are a goof
 
fergie said:
Buddy, you are a goof

Well said fuck face!!! You should be careful about who you call a goof. You might end up saying that to someone whos done time and they'll kill you before you even finish that word. Now go run along and do something useful like read a book or learn something on your own.
 
fergie said:
Buddy, you are a goof

If you knew how dale looked you wouldn't call him a goof. You should seriously listen to what he says cause he seems to know his shit. And ive heard from many people the cyp is better then enathate
 
well, i was running enanth and switched to cyp. just adding cyp in with the enanth instead of straight enanth i noticed difference big fucking time. now running straight cyp. did notice a little bacne, but i notice the cyp more. same brand, and it's reputable brand and never ever been known for bunking people and noone is faking their shit, it's legit.

the cyp also gets me twenty times hornier :)

so maybe there is no molecular scientfical vectorial parametorial sector vector difference, but everybody's BODY is different and could respond in greatly different ways to substances very similair yet tiny differences. hehe
 
Lifterforlife said:
Reading is all well and good, but interpretation is what counts. Go back over that link you provided, it says nothing about Cyp being longer acting or any of your references to test E. It is only compared to prop, and hopefully I don't have to tell you why that is. :)

And since you wanted to get a bit nasty about it, it is your problem, because apparantly your reading and or interpretation skills are lacking.


hahaha shutDOWN
 
perception is perception folks.... everyone will PERCEIVE things differently... if you and I both do 75mg tren ace ED (from the same bottle, let's say) YOU might feel it within 3 days, however *I* might feel it after a week... same compound, different effects...it has to do with individual genetics...

as far as cyp and enth, theoretically they're very similar so results *should* be similar as well... though cyp has a slightly longer ester, their active lives are pretty much the same... (test cyp: Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester): C8 H14 O2 test enth: Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester):C7 H12 O2 Notice that the test base is identical for both)

So maybe the time it takes for the test to "kick in" or for its effects to fade is what makes people PERCEIVE that one is stronger than the other...

One last thought, you're never really comparing apples to apples... vials are typically overdosed or underdosed.... so it both vials are labeled 250mg/ml, one could actually be 240 and the other 260... affects things a bit

When all is said and done, take whatever makes you feel better! :)
 
I would say cyp hands down. I know people say test is test but I feel I get better strength, gain more weight(probably due to moe estro) and a greater libido with cyp, no doubt. I don't know why this is. And I hear alot more people complaining about injection pain from Enanthate than I do cyp, and prop, wqell everyone knows most oil based prop hurts pretty much no matter what. Cyp never gives me pain, but I make my own too and it is slightly overdosed, not much, but if I wiegh out 50 grams, I'll throw an extra 2 or 3 grams on top of it to make sure it is at least 200 mg/ml.
 
Wow, I can't believe this is still going on.

Any difference between the two is simply a different expereience at the time they were taken. They are exactly the same thing. It's just a base. I'm on HRT and sometimes they give me cyp and sometimes they give me enanthate. Pharamacies can not decide one thing can be substituted for something else. IT IS THE SAME THING.
 
Eth just because i can get it .
Brad.
 
they are both almost identical...but the larger ester weight of the cyp leads me to think the test e will have more pure testosterone...test e has my vote
 
The responses you will get here are going to be for Company X test E vs Company Y test C... you will have to use the same company to get the right comparison. For example, I thought QV E was much better than their C... and human grade E, blew them both out of the water.
 
Based on what I've read on personal experiences, next time I will be using cyp. I see several people saying they like cyp better than e, but only one saying he likes e better.
I think it's well established that there should be little or no difference between the two, for our purposes, and on paper, but the user opinions go a long way.
Even if there shouldn't be a difference, next time I'm running cyp just because of the positive feedback. It's not like it's a huge gamble.
 
I have to say cyp. I think the reason would be I first tried Test E which was UG lab. I got my hands on Test Cyp by Sandoz(pharm grade). Just feel much better.
 
bigmouth2006 said:
call me crazy but i felt like the cyp was stronger

Your not crazy...My hrt doc told me that the the labs told him that enth is not as stable as cyp and dose not stay consistent. The lab will not even make enth. Most if not all Hrt doc's perscribe Cyp or deca
 
promet1 said:
Your not crazy...My hrt doc told me that the the labs told him that enth is not as stable as cyp and dose not stay consistent. The lab will not even make enth. Most if not all Hrt doc's perscribe Cyp or deca


Actually the commonly prescribed test is "Deletestryl" which is enthanate. And any doctor who prescribes Dcea for HRT is an idiot.
 
I have a hard time believing that American doctors would prescribe something from a small pharmaceutical company like Savient Pharmaceuticals when they can prescribe Upjohn Depo-Test. I'm sure Upjohn provides a much better prescription incentive plan than Savient.
 
i only read the first post.....but seriously bros.....you have prop....then you have all the other long esters and which ALL do exactly the same thing....if you notice a difference between cyp and enanth it is because you used a different brand, batch, and or you where dieting/training/sleeping differently.....come on now.....
 
AMEN TO THAT!


Vascular Freak said:
i only read the first post.....but seriously bros.....you have prop....then you have all the other long esters and which ALL do exactly the same thing....if you notice a difference between cyp and enanth it is because you used a different brand, batch, and or you where dieting/training/sleeping differently.....come on now.....
 
plurmurphy said:
hey bros im trying to decide between test cyp or test enth which one do you think is better? Let me know Im trying to add it to my cycle haha.

Enth - its almost identical to cyp but it doesn’t aramatis as much
 
Theoretically enanthate should be stronger. The enanthate ester weighs less than cypionate so if you have both test esters at the same dose the enanthate will always contain more testosterone. Cypionate might seem stronger because is makes you bloat more which helps with strength but I have tried both and its a tough call. I would only choose enanthate because I hold a bit less water on it and it kicks in a few days faster for me. That said, one cant say which is better simply from trying both because most test is over/under dosed and you dont know how much you are really taking unless its homebrewed.
 
My lab wanted $225 for a 5ml bottle of delatestryl! I was pretty much all set with that. Im gonna get my DR. to bump me up to 150mgs enanthate a week so I can be around 800. Shit being on 100mgs puts me aroun d 540 and i still lack any kind of sex drive or interest.....brother needs some help here!
 
plurmurphy said:
hey bros im trying to decide between test testosterone cypionate or test testosterone enanthate which one do you think is better? Let me know Im trying to add it to my cycle haha.


they are both identical IMO.
 
Have only tried Test Cyp. but everything I've read would tell me there basically the same thing.

Testosterone Cypionate Profile
17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
Testosterone base + cypionate ester
Formula: C27 H40 O3
Molecular Weight: 412.6112
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 132.1184
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester): C8 H14 O2
Melting Point (base): 155
Melting Point (ester): 98 - 104 C
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 300-2000mg+ week
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 15-16 days
Detection Time: 3 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.

Testosterone Enanthate
17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
Testosterone base + Enanthate ester
Molecular Weight: 412.6112
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 130.1864
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester):C7 H12 O
Melting Point (base): 155
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 300-2000mg+ week
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 15 days
Detection Time: 3 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.
 
im new to this site and dont know how to do alot of things but i just got one question where can i buy depo test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial and for how much
 
im new to this site and dont know how to do alot of things but i just got one question where can i buy depo test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial and for how much

Bro, you cannot ask this type of questions on here, read the rules, you might just have gotten banned for that already!
 
Who cares people want to know so let them ask you little girl

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There are rules. We don't make them or enforce them. He's just letting the dude know.

Who are you to talk shit to anyone here, Man?! We treat each other with respect. Kindly do the same.
 
No bullshit there very close can't tell much if any difference but some people have a preference me no different
 
I have always taken Test E. Cyp and Enanthate are esters that have been attached to the 17 beta hydroxyl group of the testosterone molecule, which increase the active life span of the steroid preparation. Once a steroid is injected it will form a deposit I. The muscle tissue and slowly enter circulation. The higher the ester the more oil soluble the steroid compound d will be and the longer it will take for full dosage to be released. Esters provide various release times some want fast release others want slower release. Do what fits your wants or needs!
 
Wow...old thread lol...sometimes can't tell when on the smartphone...shows it isn't so smart lol! Sorry guys lmao!!!

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lol, that is kinda funny, like an old man yelling in the middle of the night at the kids that were on his lawn last week haha
 
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