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thanks for the insight. how much dermacrine should I use. the product suggests 4 -5 pumps. Also should I run the full six weeks?

thanks.
 
thanks for the insight. how much dermacrine should I use. the product suggests 4 -5 pumps. Also should I run the full six weeks?

thanks.

4 weeks 5 pumps ed is fine. If you are using it threw out the cycle or as a bridge you can use it as long as you like. 5 pumps ed. stand alone product 8 weeks is cool to but do pct after. You can get away with doing 4 weeks of it with no pct though.
 
26 years old
5th multi gear cycle
5'6 170lbs
lifting for last 7 years
taking animal paks, bcaas, amp 02, and clean diet
Get slightly tender nips when on

100edmg ed Prop weeks 1-14
100mg ed Tren weeks 1-9

Should Aromasin be taken daily or Arimidex .5 eod?
Or both and why both?

????
 
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26 years old
5th multi gear cycle
5'6 170lbs
lifting for last 7 years
taking animal paks, bcaas, amp 02, and clean diet
Get slightly tender nips when on

100edmg ed Prop weeks 1-14
100mg ed Tren weeks 1-9

Should Aromasin be taken daily or Arimidex .5 eod?
Or both and why both?


If I were you I would be taking .5mg adex every day along with .5mg dostinex every 3 days. I would run both threw the cycle and threw pct.

you should use that and both forged post cycle and sustain alpha for pct.

Anamal pack sucks there is better and I have a new bcaa comming out soon that is by far the best the industry has ever seen.
 
I am going to start a cycle of dbol soon, I have 150 pills and I have heard many different people say different things like take 10mg to 25mg a day and some say up to 50mg a day and more! I dont know what to do! I am going to take milk thilsle for liver and something for joints what else should i be takeing? How many mg a day and how should i break it up?
 
40-50 mgs a day of d-bol a day is most common. Some split the dose during the day and others take it all at once before training. I myself like to take it all at once, this is a on going debate. Try both ways and whatever works best for you.
 
I am going to start a cycle of dbol soon. I have heard from people many different ways! 5mg to 25mg a day. some people even say 50 mg or more a day. I dont know what is good for me, im 24 years old 5'9" about 150 lbs. I have never done dbol befor! I will take some thing for my liver as well as my joints. is there anything that im missing? can you help please? thanks, Jason
 
I am going to start a cycle of dbol soon. I have heard from people many different ways! 5mg to 25mg a day. some people even say 50 mg or more a day. I dont know what is good for me, im 24 years old 5'9" about 150 lbs. I have never done dbol befor! I will take some thing for my liver as well as my joints. is there anything that im missing? can you help please? thanks, Jason

AAAA the dbol only cycle. Its not a bad cycle, not like some make it out to be. Run it like this bro.

1-6 dbol 50mg ed
6-10
Testosterone Recovery Stack
pct

Keep some arimadex on hand for sides.
 
I Am 25 years old have lost 130pounds without any substances.
bought Somatropin 101 iu yellow cap. Will someone help me on how much bacteriostatic water to mix and how much to inject.
I am looking to gain a bit more mass but most of all shred abs and tighten skin..

Any other info will be greatly appreciated .

Thank you
 
I Am 25 years old have lost 130pounds without any substances.
bought Somatropin 101 iu yellow cap. Will someone help me on how much bacteriostatic water to mix and how much to inject.
I am looking to gain a bit more mass but most of all shred abs and tighten skin..

Any other info will be greatly appreciated .

Thank you

Just wondering but why did you make the choice to use what you are about to use. Why this over something else? I would just like to know
 
hi not sure if im ment to ask questions here? but here goes any way can you tell me why winstrol would make my bum sore even after i injected 6 days ago? is this normal.
 
hi not sure if im ment to ask questions here? but here goes any way can you tell me why winstrol would make my bum sore even after i injected 6 days ago? is this normal.

How does it feel now bro? is this your first time injecting. I find winny hurts more then any other kind of aas.
 
I'm new here and I'm new to gear, but I needed to ask some people a few questions about cycling. I'm trying to learn as much as I can and I'm trying to avoid any damage to my body.

I am very new to cycling so I may have made some mistakes and I'm trying to learn from those mistakes.

Currently, I am running tren n winny together to lean down. A friend of mine told me that I should be running a test with the cycle and recommended cyp....so the final stack will be cyp, tren and liquid oral winny.

I'm looking and feeling good with the stack so far as I'm already at about 4 weeks in. I'm trimming down tons. I was something like 20% - 25% body fat when I started, but I didn't do an exact measurement.

I eat pretty clean these days. I'm at about 2200 calories a day. Sometimes more...I'm not a competition body builder. I just wanted to get a little extra edge in the fat loss department because I've done it the hard way many many times and yielded good results, but I was tired a lot, low energy, and lost muscle from dieting so much.

I'm currently not taking any medication other than omeprazole occasionally when I take ibuprofen because ibuprofen irritates my stomach.

I'm very active. I run and swim for cardio. I'm 5'9" and current about 215 lbs. Don't have a six pack...I've always had a lot of trouble with that. I came down from 250 naturally over a couple of years. Definitely put on a lot of muscle since my 250 lb days so the net body fat loss is probably better than I give myself credit for.

I train kickboxing and jiu -jitsu almost 6 days a week....I usually end up lifting weights during the day and training at night. I was kind of an athletic chubby guy and just wanted to trim up a ton.

I kind of noticed a couple of problems with the cycle (I know I screwed up without adding the test). I'm trying to remedy the situation. One of the problems is that I've had to focus on keeping an erection a lot more than I'm used to. I usually have no problems with that. My girlfriend will definitely not be cool with me not getting it up, so I want to find out what's the deal with that. It's not SUPER bad just yet, but it's noticeable to me as I used to be horny as hell.

Will adding cyp to the last 4-6 weeks help me? Will adding the cyp bulk me up? I'm trying not to bulk up, but rather tone down. Weight is kind of an issue, because i'd like to compete later on this year and the more I weigh, the higher the weight class, so I'd like to be as trim as possible.

If not cyp, anyone have any other recommendations?

What are some good PCT items I can run after this cycle?

Any and all help much appreciated. Thanks guys.

ND

If i'm missing any pertinent information, please ask and I'll respond to the best of my knowledge.

Thanks again.
 
after my last cycle, I had some liver issues for 1-2 weeks. I pm ed you about that at that time. I dont want to feel like shit and sleep 26 hours so, since I dont have access to most products

how effective is very high dose milk-thistle for liver protection on cycle?? They sell it in the herb stores here and I have unlimited access and they are dirt cheap..
 
after my last cycle, I had some liver issues for 1-2 weeks. I pm ed you about that at that time. I dont want to feel like shit and sleep 26 hours so, since I dont have access to most products

how effective is very high dose milk-thistle for liver protection on cycle?? They sell it in the herb stores here and I have unlimited access and they are dirt cheap..

I think high dose milk-thistle can do more damage then help. If you do not know its purity it can be loaded with shit like led and other things.

How ever if you trust the source then a normal dose ed can help. Along with not drinking any booze,eating right,drinking lotts of water and taking some fish oil or krill oil.. Also some premprose oil is great if you can get that.
 
I'm new here and I'm new to gear, but I needed to ask some people a few questions about cycling. I'm trying to learn as much as I can and I'm trying to avoid any damage to my body.

I am very new to cycling so I may have made some mistakes and I'm trying to learn from those mistakes.

Currently, I am running tren n winny together to lean down. A friend of mine told me that I should be running a test with the cycle and recommended cyp....so the final stack will be cyp, tren and liquid oral winny.

I'm looking and feeling good with the stack so far as I'm already at about 4 weeks in. I'm trimming down tons. I was something like 20% - 25% body fat when I started, but I didn't do an exact measurement.

I eat pretty clean these days. I'm at about 2200 calories a day. Sometimes more...I'm not a competition body builder. I just wanted to get a little extra edge in the fat loss department because I've done it the hard way many many times and yielded good results, but I was tired a lot, low energy, and lost muscle from dieting so much.

I'm currently not taking any medication other than omeprazole occasionally when I take ibuprofen because ibuprofen irritates my stomach.

I'm very active. I run and swim for cardio. I'm 5'9" and current about 215 lbs. Don't have a six pack...I've always had a lot of trouble with that. I came down from 250 naturally over a couple of years. Definitely put on a lot of muscle since my 250 lb days so the net body fat loss is probably better than I give myself credit for.

I train kickboxing and jiu -jitsu almost 6 days a week....I usually end up lifting weights during the day and training at night. I was kind of an athletic chubby guy and just wanted to trim up a ton.

I kind of noticed a couple of problems with the cycle (I know I screwed up without adding the test). I'm trying to remedy the situation. One of the problems is that I've had to focus on keeping an erection a lot more than I'm used to. I usually have no problems with that. My girlfriend will definitely not be cool with me not getting it up, so I want to find out what's the deal with that. It's not SUPER bad just yet, but it's noticeable to me as I used to be horny as hell.

Will adding cyp to the last 4-6 weeks help me? Will adding the cyp bulk me up? I'm trying not to bulk up, but rather tone down. Weight is kind of an issue, because i'd like to compete later on this year and the more I weigh, the higher the weight class, so I'd like to be as trim as possible.

If not cyp, anyone have any other recommendations?

What are some good PCT items I can run after this cycle?

Any and all help much appreciated. Thanks guys.

ND

If i'm missing any pertinent information, please ask and I'll respond to the best of my knowledge.

Thanks again.

you are on tren and winny and your goal was to just lean down a bit. MAN I MEAN COME ON!!!!!

who told you to do something like that. Its just way to much and to much of a waist to. Your cals are to low, I am sure you are prob not training right and you have no clue how to take the drugs you are taking man.

Send me a pm. I will spend a few hours talking with you bro.
 
"you are on tren and winny and your goal was to just lean down a bit. MAN I MEAN COME ON!!!!!

who told you to do something like that. Its just way to much and to much of a waist to. Your cals are to low, I am sure you are prob not training right and you have no clue how to take the drugs you are taking man.

Send me a pm. I will spend a few hours talking with you bro."



That's why I came here...I'm trying to separate fact from fiction...I'm trying to get the straight answers from people who know what's up.

I mean, in all honesty, I would love to really trim up hardcore...that's my actual goal...perhaps I should have stressed that more.

Training has been pretty good. The only thing I get once in a while is some fatigue and getting winded, but I'm ok for the most part. I got a decent amount of energy.

I guess, how should I fix my diet and cycle? Is it repairable?
 
O well I hope I did not sound like I was being a dick bro. I am never trying to do that. And welcome to the site bro. We have been taking in pm's though. Good to know ya man.
 
IM WONDERING HOW TO LOWER MY blood pressure needto. everytime i take a dbol im getn a head that feels like its gonna pop.take 10 mg 8am,12 noon and 4pm...hawthorne berry or soemthing?water is up.food is clean.doing cardio.what else?
 
alright bro. here we go. first cycle was

wk 1-12 test e 500mg/wk
pct; trs +nolva 10mg/ed

next cycle i want to run prop for 8 weeks with arimidex. i also was looking into masteron and maybe tren ace. dermacrine also looks good. my first cycle produced about 12lb gain and acne sides. i am looking for solid steady gains with less sides. not willing to feel like shit to gain size or to just gain water weight to gain lbs. want to feel good in the gym and good out of the gym.


i was thinking

test prop 50mg/day
tren ace 50mg/day
mast 50mg/day
dermacrine 5pumps wk 1-8
arimidex 0.25/day
pct trs +nolva

or

test prop 100mg/eod
tren ace 100mg/eod
mast 100mg/eod
dermacrine 5 pumps 4 weeks
armidex 0.25/ed
pct trs+nolva


also be using the hcg on cycle protocol.

have any advise on dosage, length, stack, etc.
 
i was thinking

test prop 75mg/dayrun it higher then the tren
tren ace 50mg/day
mast 50mg/day
dermacrine 5pumps wk 1-8
arimidex 0.25/day
pct trs +nolva

I like this one. And even though I endorse and even sell dermacrine (needbuildmuscle.com) For you I would say skip it for on cycle use. I think its not the best idea for you when it comes to acne problems seems you have trouble with this.

I also must warn you tren may give you the worst acne ever or it may not. Run the compounds ed.

Also get some dostinex/bromo rxhealth.com is a good site

Do not use nolva for pct after a tren cycle. Use sustain alpha,forged post cycle and 25mg clomid ed for 4 weeks. Start this as sonn as the cycle is over.
 
thanks man. i think i will run just the prop and mast or prop and dbol. does the dermacrine alone cause acne or did you say that just because it was stacked with everything else? also, dbol or beastadrol or dieselbolan. i know you sell the beast and diesel but let me know your opion on the difference. thanks


test prop 75mg/ed
mast 50mg/ed
dbol or beast or diesel
arimidex 0.25/ed

pct
trs+forged+nolva

also how would i add in the dostinex bromo
 
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thanks man. i think i will run just the prop and mast or prop and dbol. does the dermacrine alone cause acne or did you say that just because it was stacked with everything else? also, dbol or beastadrol or dieselbolan. i know you sell the beast and diesel but let me know your opion on the difference. thanks


test prop 75mg/ed
mast 50mg/ed
dbol or beast or diesel
arimidex 0.25/ed

pct
trs+forged+nolva

also how would i add in the dostinex bromo

Dont use the dos unless you need it. If you find you do start off at .5mg every 3 days. You will not need it if you will not be using tren... Yes using the all the compounds along with the derma was why I said that( for you anyway). If dropping the tren I think you will be fine using derma too.

You cant even get beastdrol or deiselbolan anymore. So unless you already have it then you are SOL :D
 
right on brother. you the man!


is there anything aas cycles in your opinion that are acne friendly. i know test is a compound you should use in every cycle, but im going to be attending pro wrestling school and have to have perfectly clear skin for tv. just to let you know im 6ft 235 12%bf 24 years old. i dont need to get real crazy with the gains, just looking to make it to about 250 in a couple of years.
 
right on brother. you the man!


is there anything aas cycles in your opinion that are acne friendly. i know test is a compound you should use in every cycle, but im going to be attending pro wrestling school and have to have perfectly clear skin for tv. just to let you know im 6ft 235 12%bf 24 years old. i dont need to get real crazy with the gains, just looking to make it to about 250 in a couple of years.

Ya primo is always bomb bro.
 
Hi there needtogas

Seen in the forums you have been helping a lot of people.

Been working out for nearly 5 years however been cycling AAS for the past 3 years.

Have a few cycles under my belt. had 3 cycles in the past 18 months. Started with an eq, test prop, test cyp and winny cycle. then stayed off for a while.

Did a primo only maintenance cycle later on then last July did my biggest cycle to date a 10 week tren ace, test cyp, test prop, eq, winny cutting cycle and was pretty ripped however had some hair loss issues

Now I am planning a winter bulking cycle however I don't want to put on too much water weight. My gear hookup here in Egypt recommended a cycle of dianabol, anadrol, deca, test cyp and test prop and some androgen.

I want to plan a good 10-12 week bulking cycle with minimal water weight and minimal hair loss. I have access to pretty much anything here through my source.

Would appreciate your help man!

Thanks

Hassan
 
Hi there needtogas

Seen in the forums you have been helping a lot of people.

Been working out for nearly 5 years however been cycling AAS for the past 3 years.

Have a few cycles under my belt. had 3 cycles in the past 18 months. Started with an eq, test prop, test cyp and winny cycle. then stayed off for a while.

Did a primo only maintenance cycle later on then last July did my biggest cycle to date a 10 week tren ace, test cyp, test prop, eq, winny cutting cycle and was pretty ripped however had some hair loss issues

Now I am planning a winter bulking cycle however I don't want to put on too much water weight. My gear hookup here in Egypt recommended a cycle of dianabol, anadrol, deca, test cyp and test prop and some androgen.

I want to plan a good 10-12 week bulking cycle with minimal water weight and minimal hair loss. I have access to pretty much anything here through my source.

Would appreciate your help man!

Thanks

Hassan

weeks
1-12 test-e 250mg Monday and thursday
1-10 deca 300 once a week
1-4 dbol 30 mg ed
8-12 hcgenerate 5 caps ed dpread out (HCGenerate)
12-16 sustain alpha 5 pumps ed (Sustain Alpha)
12-16 clomid 25mg ed (rxhealthdrugs.com)

Have Femara (letrozole)40 2.5mg tabs and Bromocriptin (Bromocriptine) 60 2.5mg tabs on hand for the cycle in case of sides. You can also get that from rxhealthdrugs.com too

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Thanks a ton for all the info Needto. I pmed u the other day, Im sorry we couldnt take it further. About me Im 26yrs, 6" 2, 200 pounds, large frame and in a pretty decent shape. Have been lifting for the last 5 yrs or so and really got down to serious business for the last 2 yrs and want to do my first cycle now. My goal is to get a more lean,hardened, vascular and shredded physique without adding any significant mass.After researching this is what I have planned

Eq weeks 1-12 300 mg/week
Winstrol weeks 4-12 50 mg ED
Proviron weeks 1-12 50 mg ED
Clen 2 weeks on & off
Have HCG and Nolva and Liv52 at hand

I did read Nelson's logs....would have replaced eq with primo but am stocked up on eq now so maybe next time. I also understand there is no test but i simply dont want the HUGE look on my as it is large frame. So my questions are

1) Will the hcg,nolva,possibly proviron take care of the possible shutdown and libido issues? If not,are the issues gonna be temp or long term damage?
2) If at all I have to have test how much should I take without the risk of bloat and gyno so that I can do without Arimidex? which one?is prop ok?
3) Is the eq dosage enough considering it being my first cycle?
4) When do I start Hcg and nolva and how much?
5) Can I run the cycle on a low carb diet?
6) What are the various supps I should take apart from protein and multivit on a cycle? (like cal, vit c, bcaa, glucosamine, glutamine, etc)
7) Is the above a decent cutting cycle?

Once again thanks a ton and looking forward for your response.

[email protected]
 
Thanks a ton for all the info Needto. I pmed u the other day, Im sorry we couldnt take it further. About me Im 26yrs, 6" 2, 200 pounds, large frame and in a pretty decent shape. Have been lifting for the last 5 yrs or so and really got down to serious business for the last 2 yrs and want to do my first cycle now. My goal is to get a more lean,hardened, vascular and shredded physique without adding any significant mass.After researching this is what I have planned

Eq weeks 1-12 300 mg/week
Winstrol weeks 4-12 50 mg ED
Proviron weeks 1-12 50 mg ED
Clen 2 weeks on & off
Have HCG and Nolva and Liv52 at hand

I did read Nelson's logs....would have replaced eq with primo but am stocked up on eq now so maybe next time. I also understand there is no test but i simply dont want the HUGE look on my as it is large frame. So my questions are

1) Will the hcg,nolva,possibly proviron take care of the possible shutdown and libido issues? If not,are the issues gonna
nope they will not. Run Dermacrine threw out the cycle for this bro. or low dose test.

be temp or long term damage?
I would still run the hcg 250ius twice a week from week 4 till the end though. of course hcgenerate would also work well too.
2) If at all I have to have test how much should I take without the risk of bloat and gyno so that I can do without Arimidex? which one?is prop ok?
250mg ew test-e would be best. Or do what i said above. If you run the test you dont "need" to run the arimadex unless you have some problems. One product that works the bomb for keeping off bloat during a cycle is Competitive Edge Labs Formestane Competitive Edge Labs Formestane [] - $32.95 : Orbit Nutrition
if going the test rather then derma root then use this and keep the adex for only if it really gets bad which I doubt it would at all.


3) Is the eq dosage enough considering it being my first cycle?
yes its fine. 14 weeks 400mg is better but again it is your first. You will get some good gains
4) When do I start Hcg and nolva and how much?
well I told you about the hcg already. Keep in mind once you put water into the hcg you need to keep it in the fridge and it will only be good for 4 weeks once you do. Keep that in mind.

as for the nolva start that as soon as the cycle is over 20mg every day for 4 weeks. and I also think you should add unleashed and post cycle to your pct on this one bro. UNLEASHED+POST CYCLE COMBO

5) Can I run the cycle on a low carb diet?
Primo would have been a hell of a lot better. Considering its one of the only proven to work really well on low cals. Its also going to be hard because EQ is very well known for increasing hunger my friend. So good luck lol.. Yes this cimbo will still work but keep in mind you want to be at matanence cals not bellow. Its your first cycle so your going to gain muscle,get stronger and with the combo burn fat too. Don't go to low on the cals and waste the magic my friend. Keep protein high 2g per lb body weight and a 50/20/30 protein/carbs/fat split. Plenty of veggies and complex carbs.

6) What are the various supps I should take apart from protein and multivit on a cycle? (like cal, vit c, bcaa, glucosamine, glutamine, etc)
Well here is where the magic of gear really shines best IMO
GEAR
4 caps am 3 pre work out and 3 caps right at the gym after your work out. the rest of everything you need you can get from
Muscle Replenisher
3.3lb 20 servings per container

Per serving
35 grams of Protein isolate
41 grams of Amino acids
22 grams of carbs
3g of creatine monohydrate
950 mg of Taurine
super electrolytes and Vitamin E complex mix
8 gm L-Glutamine
200mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
just take this as your post work out meal when you get home.

7) Is the above a decent cutting cycle?
its fine
Once again thanks a ton and looking forward for your response.

[email protected]
Anytime my friend. Always here to help out the members in anyway I can :heart::heart:
 
Help.....Im running a cycle of Dieselbolan 3x day , along with 19-Tren TFO 3x day. After 9 days into the cycle, lower back pain put me out of work for 2 days. I dont want to have to discontinue the cycle because of my gains. This cycle is part one of a four part cycle from MrSupps (Need to Build Muscle) . Part two is the use of a bridge for a month. Part three is Beastdrol and Katanadrol for a month followed by a month of PCT.
I have been using Taurine along with Potassium and a prostate supp. From any experienced user, what are my options....any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
 
dan151 said:
Help.....Im running a cycle of Dieselbolan 3x day , along with 19-Tren TFO 3x day. After 9 days into the cycle, lower back pain put me out of work for 2 days. I dont want to have to discontinue the cycle because of my gains. This cycle is part one of a four part cycle from MrSupps (Need to Build Muscle) . Part two is the use of a bridge for a month. Part three is Beastdrol and Katanadrol for a month followed by a month of PCT.
I have been using Taurine along with Potassium and a prostate supp. From any experienced user, what are my options....any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
Lower your doses mate !
That's the first thing , the gains I got from 1 diesel was awesome and no sides , train smarter and stay low until you carnt grow .

Brad.
 
I'm a 32 year old male who is NOT interested in lifting competitively nor do I want to look like the terminator. I only lift to look good naked. To that end I have been looking for a way to bring out the elusive "6 pack". My searches have brought me to Oxandrolone and Tamoxfin. Being a supplement virgin I have no idea what dosage, quantity to purchase. I am also getting conflicting info on how and when to take them.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I should probably add I'm currently 160 lbs.
 
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I'm a 32 year old male who is NOT interested in lifting competitively nor do I want to look like the terminator. I only lift to look good naked. To that end I have been looking for a way to bring out the elusive "6 pack". My searches have brought me to Oxandrolone and Tamoxfin. Being a supplement virgin I have no idea what dosage, quantity to purchase. I am also getting conflicting info on how and when to take them.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I should probably add I'm currently 160 lbs.

diet will get you a 6-pack

hello i just started my first cycle of winny tabs i have 10mg tabs how should i spread the doses throughout the day?? and how do i start my own thread? i am a new guy

go to the main AAS forum, and at the top left there will be a [New Thread] button, click it and go! enter a title, fill out the body and hit post or submit post! :)
 
Help.....Im running a cycle of Dieselbolan 3x day , along with 19-Tren TFO 3x day. After 9 days into the cycle, lower back pain put me out of work for 2 days. I dont want to have to discontinue the cycle because of my gains. This cycle is part one of a four part cycle from MrSupps (Need to Build Muscle) . Part two is the use of a bridge for a month. Part three is Beastdrol and Katanadrol for a month followed by a month of PCT.
I have been using Taurine along with Potassium and a prostate supp. From any experienced user, what are my options....any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

also add magnesium to your supps and a good muti. Lower the dose of both 2 2 caps a day of each.
 
I'm a 32 year old male who is NOT interested in lifting competitively nor do I want to look like the terminator. I only lift to look good naked. To that end I have been looking for a way to bring out the elusive "6 pack". My searches have brought me to Oxandrolone and Tamoxfin. Being a supplement virgin I have no idea what dosage, quantity to purchase. I am also getting conflicting info on how and when to take them.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I should probably add I'm currently 160 lbs.

Send me a pm I will help you personally to understand things better. I think you need more the a quick reply my friend and it would be wrong of me to do that. :biggrin:
 
Hey quick question.....

Taking winny 50mg ED..getting decent results...can I opt for 100 mg EOD or 50mg shot and 50 mg oral every alternate day? Thanks
 
Hello needto

I did a couple of testo-e cycles without any probs but when i started to add tren or deca i started to itch like a crazy baboon. So i went of the cycle and took some allergy tests against food and stuff but it didn't show anything at all. i also get very dry skin using tren and deca.

So i waitied 8 weeks and started a new cycle with test-e and deca. But allready after the first day my skin starts to itch and i have no rash or anything on my skin. and Telfast doesn't work against it at all. my urin is fairly pure and my stool has a normal color haha.
But i'm guessing i can never use any 19-nor steroids again?

thanks in advance. :)
 
Hello needto

I did a couple of testo-e cycles without any probs but when i started to add tren or deca i started to itch like a crazy baboon. So i went of the cycle and took some allergy tests against food and stuff but it didn't show anything at all. i also get very dry skin using tren and deca.

So i waitied 8 weeks and started a new cycle with test-e and deca. But allready after the first day my skin starts to itch and i have no rash or anything on my skin. and Telfast doesn't work against it at all. my urin is fairly pure and my stool has a normal color haha.
But i'm guessing i can never use any 19-nor steroids again?

thanks in advance. :)
Is it a ug lab or a real lab. It could be the kind of oil they used. Lots of people get a reaction like this to EO oil and other oils.
 
It's UG Oxide labs from russia. i'm not sure which oils used in it. But woulnd't the allergy test i tok at the doctor show reaction to oils?
 
It's UG Oxide labs from russia. i'm not sure which oils used in it. But woulnd't the allergy test i tok at the doctor show reaction to oils?

Ok let me ask you some questions then. Are you on (ACTH) or a blood thinner such as warfarin (Coumadin®), or diabetes medicine (insulin or oral medicine such as glipizide, glyburide, Amaryl®, Actos™, Avandia®, Glucotrol®, Glucophage®).?

How are your kidneys? do you have or know if you might have kidney disease called nephrosis or nephrotic syndrome?
 
Nope, i'm not using any medication.
And i think my kidneys are ok, though i cannot be 100%. i have no pain or anything.
I was thinking of continuing with the test and just cut te deca out and get some dbol. Do you think i would start to itch with dbol? if its the kidneys i guess i will find out for sure?
 
This might be kind of a silly question, but can I still reap the benefits of Sustain alpha, namely the increased bloodflow to the penis, if I use it at night, way prior to sexual activity?
 
This might be kind of a silly question, but can I still reap the benefits of Sustain alpha, namely the increased bloodflow to the penis, if I use it at night, way prior to sexual activity?

Sustain can in some user cause a increased bloodflow. Its is one of the benefits to the product. This is not a "just when taken" or "only for a hour" kind of effect. It builds over time well on the product and it is a constant effect. So yes you should be able to. For more information on this product and or discounts on it send me a pm.
 
can you take creatine with winstrol or is defeating the object.

You can take creatine with any steroid. All steroids increase the amount of atp muscles can hold. creatine increases ATP. So in reality higher doses of creatine can and should be used well on cycle and the effects are double that then if you were using creatin well not on cycle. The myth that creatine is waisted well on cycle is just that, A myth. The fact of tha matter is people should use more of it well on cycle. 5g a day is the norm all off cycle and pct. Upwards of 15g a day can be effectively used during cycles. I think the best way to do this is to use a mix. Use creatine mono pre and post work out as your base. Then added CEE in capsule form through out the rest of the day. RAW MCC may also be used.

I would also like to note that far to many people get tricked into the expensive "Exotic" Creatins out there. (forgive me ladies) Far to many treat creatin like pussy. At the end of the day they all do the same job and they all get the job done.

The rest is just for bragging rights or getting the approval of your peers. Looking cool with a cool named tub of creatin or a hot blond by your side.

Now when it comes to the poon of course you can justify going the extra mile and spending the extra time and money to get the better package. But when it comes to creatin. Don't waist your damn money. find the cheapest kind you can that don't upset your stomach and roll with it. I'll still give you a high five for it I promise!!!
 
Nope, i'm not using any medication.
And i think my kidneys are ok, though i cannot be 100%. i have no pain or anything.
I was thinking of continuing with the test and just cut te deca out and get some dbol. Do you think i would start to itch with dbol? if its the kidneys i guess i will find out for sure?

I went looking through some medical studies and searched around. It seems this happens to be a common side effect listed for deca. however if it does happen to be the Kidneys and you switch to dbols you might end up dead rather then just a rash. I would rather you get a blood test done bro. Then post results.
 
I know that it is debated whether Sarms is suppressive. Should I run a PCT for a Sarms-only cycle just in case?
 
Would it hurt to go from a SARMS cycle straight into a Test E cycle? If I need to do a PCT should I wait the standard time on + PCT = time off before I start a new cycle?
 
So im 7 weeks in to my cycle. i am now up to 750 mgs of test e and 400 mgs of deca. Im training for a bodybuilding show and my workouts have been very intense
thanks to preworkout drink 1mr. my problem is after my workouts im left with a kinda spacy feeling in my head and im completely drained. only sleep helps. i almost feel like my sugar levels may been messed up. any idea how to correct the problem?
thanks a lot
 
2 questions:

1) I have been off for a month and I'm 2 weeks into my PCT with 2 weeks left. I really want to start cutting because my waist is entirely too big for my liking, but I'm scared to start cutting down on my diet because I know I need to eat big to retain my gains from my cycle. Should I just keep eating big these last 2 weeks of post cycle before i start cutting to retain gains? Or will it not make much of a difference if I started cutting now instead of later?

2) In my PCT I am running

Unleashed
PC
Sustain
HCGenerate
Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Arimidex @ .5mg/day

Since I am going down to 10mg of nolva/day, should I take the arimidex down to .25, or maybe .5 eod? What do you think?

BTW my cycle was 500mg test/week.

Thanks. You're the man.
 
Would it hurt to go from a SARMS cycle straight into a Test E cycle? If I need to do a PCT should I wait the standard time on + PCT = time off before I start a new cycle?

I think you could go from a sarms cycle right into a steroid cycle yes, but this would also still depend on the time between your last cycle and the sarms cycle. Samrs is some what suppressive but not a lot. I would rank it around the same as dermacrine in terms of suppressive. A light 4 week cycle is not going to shut you down however its also not going to allow complete recovery ether. So keep this in mind. It can still be effectively used in many ways. :biggrin::biggrin:
 
So im 7 weeks in to my cycle. i am now up to 750 mgs of test e and 400 mgs of deca. Im training for a bodybuilding show and my workouts have been very intense
thanks to preworkout drink 1mr. my problem is after my workouts im left with a kinda spacy feeling in my head and im completely drained. only sleep helps. i almost feel like my sugar levels may been messed up. any idea how to correct the problem?
thanks a lot

first off looking at the brake down of BPI 1.M.R it looks to be a fairly good product. Over priced though even on bb.com. 35 bucks and all you get is 30 servings ( at best) If you like this product you should give N2KTS a try I am sure you will love it.
N2KTS

Now onto your problem. Bro this could be do to a number of different reasons. Persinally I feel the combined effects of your intense work outs, the large cycle you are one that sup you are taking and other factors. May have lead to whats known as Adrenal fatigue. Caffeine and other stims have all been well known to strip the body of enzymes and minerals thus leading to a burn out down the rode.

A few extra days rest, no stims of any kind, increased water, 25mg co-q-10 daily and you may be feeling better in no time.
 
first off looking at the brake down of BPI 1.M.R it looks to be a fairly good product. Over priced though even on bb.com. 35 bucks and all you get is 30 servings ( at best) If you like this product you should give N2KTS a try I am sure you will love it.
N2KTS

Now onto your problem. Bro this could be do to a number of different reasons. Persinally I feel the combined effects of your intense work outs, the large cycle you are one that sup you are taking and other factors. May have lead to whats known as Adrenal fatigue. Caffeine and other stims have all been well known to strip the body of enzymes and minerals thus leading to a burn out down the rode.

A few extra days rest, no stims of any kind, increased water, 25mg co-q-10 daily and you may be feeling better in no time.
thanks alot
 
2 questions:

1) I have been off for a month and I'm 2 weeks into my PCT with 2 weeks left. I really want to start cutting because my waist is entirely too big for my liking, but I'm scared to start cutting down on my diet because I know I need to eat big to retain my gains from my cycle. Should I just keep eating big these last 2 weeks of post cycle before i start cutting to retain gains? Or will it not make much of a difference if I started cutting now instead of later?

first of here is a small part of a thread I made a wile back.

Diet
Ok you were below cal maintenance well on your cycle and that was fine because steroids helped. Now what?
Or you were bulking and eating everything in site but now that you are off cycle you are worried about gaining fat?

No more super fast nutrition retention,no more steroids helping you recover faster. Sure does suck don't it. Guess what its about to suck even more. Unless you can get this one perfect your screwed (again genitally gifted need not apply thanks)

Kick calories up to just above maintenance and Protein better be a big part of the kick up 50/30/20 is a good idea
if you keep it real clean you should not have a problem. Not eating enough during this time is the most common down fall of all. Most people think they are not on so they should eat less. Or maybe they think eating a lot less will save them from gaining fat again... Again your muscles will suffer and in the end so will body fat% Just keep it clean and eat more not less.

You are going to gain some BF% back but if done right its not going to be a crap load... Don't be the guy who freaks out and losses his head just because it happens. Stick to the plan.

Now this is where a good product combo of gear and need2slin can greatly help you reduce the bf well keeping the muscle during pct.

Check out this thread on need2slin
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...ate-nutrient-partitioner-glucagon-688605.html

This is a great product for helping you maintain a healthy fat level and still getting in the right amount of cals to prevent muscle lose during pct. I think it would be a awesome product for you and i say this because i give a damn.









2) In my PCT I am running

Unleashed
PC
Sustain
HCGenerate
Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Arimidex @ .5mg/day

Since I am going down to 10mg of nolva/day, should I take the arimidex down to .25, or maybe .5 eod? What do you think?

BTW my cycle was 500mg test/week.

Thanks. You're the man.
Truthfully unless you are having estrogen problems I think you can drop the adex altogether but yes dropping it down to .5mg every other day would be a good choice. :biggrin::biggrin:
 
What do you think about a tren acetate only cycle? i know this probably isnt a good idea without test but i dont have access to any other gear besides tren because I'm going to homebrew it lol. I really dont want my nads to go down and stay down so how can I keep this form happening? would Proviron be good? and what about a good pct?
 
I'm in my 2nd week of PCT. My libido is shot, except for when I take my Arimidex. One day without it, and sex just does not appeal to me at all. I'm thinking of keeping the arimidex to .5 mg/day. I thought arimidex would kill my libido. Its doing the opposite, when I take it, which is completely different to on cycle- where it seemed to shut me down sexually. I'm also taking nolva at 10mg/day.

I guess I'm just a little confused. I'd like to taper off Arimidex and go .5mg/eod day, then .25 eod, ect, but I don't know if I'm really ready to. I am worried I might have to keep taking after my regular PCT is over. Advice?
 
In my third week of PCT, and for some reason my eyelid is twitching like crazy. It never has before Could this be related to PCT or the cycle I just finished? Any way to get rid of it. Its annoying as hell...
 
In my third week of PCT, and for some reason my eyelid is twitching like crazy. It never has before Could this be related to PCT or the cycle I just finished? Any way to get rid of it. Its annoying as hell...

list everything you are on right now. This would help me help you a lot more bro.
 
What do you think about a tren acetate only cycle? i know this probably isnt a good idea without test but i dont have access to any other gear besides tren because I'm going to homebrew it lol. I really dont want my nads to go down and stay down so how can I keep this form happening? would Proviron be good? and what about a good pct?

can you get provirone? that would be a nice add to it bro.

Keep the cycle short and sweet. the longer you are on it the more problems its going to cause.

1-6 tren ace 100mg every other day
1-6 provirone 50mg ed
1-6 hcgenerate 5 caps ed
6-10 clomid 25mg ed
6-10 forma-stanzol 3 pumps am 3 pumps pm ( also have this on ehand before you start the cycle. If you have any prog sides this will help)

this is about the best thing you could do.
 
I'm in my 2nd week of PCT. My libido is shot, except for when I take my Arimidex. One day without it, and sex just does not appeal to me at all. I'm thinking of keeping the arimidex to .5 mg/day. I thought arimidex would kill my libido. Its doing the opposite, when I take it, which is completely different to on cycle- where it seemed to shut me down sexually. I'm also taking nolva at 10mg/day.

I guess I'm just a little confused. I'd like to taper off Arimidex and go .5mg/eod day, then .25 eod, ect, but I don't know if I'm really ready to. I am worried I might have to keep taking after my regular PCT is over. Advice?

take the adex like you have been and stay on that does till pct is over. once pct is over jump an hcgenerate 5 caps ed for 4 weeks and then also start to taper down the adex does through out the course of these 4 weeks.
 
list everything you are on right now. This would help me help you a lot more bro.

Nolva@10mg/day (was at 20 last week)
Arimidex .5mg eod
Post Cycle
Unleashed
Sustain
HCGenerate
Creatine 5g/day
L-Arginine 6g/day
Muli/Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM
Cissus
Liv 52

That's everything. I just got off a 10 week cycle of test e@500mg.
 
Nolva@10mg/day (was at 20 last week)
Arimidex .5mg eod
Post Cycle
Unleashed
Sustain
HCGenerate
Creatine 5g/day
L-Arginine 6g/day
Muli/Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM
Cissus
Liv 52

That's everything. I just got off a 10 week cycle of test e@500mg.

fuck shit. I hope I helped you in apm bro. Sorry to drop the ball in this thread on you. I am sure we spoke in pm's though.
 
i really need some help,

during my first week on my cycle : tren a / test p shooting eod, everything was going fine.
after my 5th shot, every time i inject my muscle would go hard as a rock after a day and gets swollen then goes back to normal after 2 days.
i m rotating between glutes and delts.
i am thinning the oil before injection, then i take a hot shower or go to the gym to keep the blood going.
i have some skin allergies , does this have to do with anything ?
 
I really need some help:

I haven't done a cycle for about 8 months if any one can contribute for free all I need is 10 vials of primo 5 vials of tren a and 5 vials of winny. Donations are also welcome!:D
 
i really need some help,

during my first week on my cycle : tren a / test p shooting eod, everything was going fine.
after my 5th shot, every time i inject my muscle would go hard as a rock after a day and gets swollen then goes back to normal after 2 days.
i m rotating between glutes and delts.
i am thinning the oil before injection, then i take a hot shower or go to the gym to keep the blood going.
i have some skin allergies , does this have to do with anything ?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...n-site-pain-so-i-will-read-thread-629311.html
 
I really need some help:

I haven't done a cycle for about 8 months if any one can contribute for free all I need is 10 vials of primo 5 vials of tren a and 5 vials of winny. Donations are also welcome!:D

O is that all man? Shit I just threw twice that in the trash let me go get it for you. :evil:
 
Needto: whats gonna be the best way to run 100mg/ml test cyp...and 100mg/ml test prop...over a twelve week cycle with my beast as a kickstart...when I picked up the vials they were both 100mg/ml. Ive got 1000ml of cyp...and 1000ml of prop. Injection schedule? better to pin one til empty and start the other? or can i pin together...the cyp is pharm grade. thanks.
 
I am in week 6, running 625mg test-e and 400mg deca and I never get morning wood. I am doing .25mg caber every 3 days. I never get an erection unless I am jerking off to porn. I have had sex 3 times this cycle but I took a small piece of cialis just in case beforehand. What should I do to help my situation?
 
Needto: whats gonna be the best way to run 100mg/ml test cyp...and 100mg/ml test prop...over a twelve week cycle with my beast as a kickstart...when I picked up the vials they were both 100mg/ml. Ive got 1000ml of cyp...and 1000ml of prop. Injection schedule? better to pin one til empty and start the other? or can i pin together...the cyp is pharm grade. thanks.

1-10 test-c 400mg ew 2 2ml shits a week
1-5 test prop (kick start) 100mg every other day
1-4 beastdrol 1 cap 3 times a day
6-10 hcgenerate 5 caps ed
10-14 5 pumps forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
10-14 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each ed.

this will work balls. Most of the gains will be on the front of the cycle. A good 10-20lb then you might get another 5lb at the end of it. Pct will work good and you will keep almost all of it
 
Not to hi jack this thread but props to needto for all the hard work he does!
 
I am in week 6, running 625mg test-e and 400mg deca and I never get morning wood. I am doing .25mg caber every 3 days. I never get an erection unless I am jerking off to porn. I have had sex 3 times this cycle but I took a small piece of cialis just in case beforehand. What should I do to help my situation?

jack it up to .5mg cab bro. Next time run forma-stanzol 5-7 pumps twice a day. do you have letro or any other Ai on hand?
 
AMPED to start this cycle! Thanks for the advice needto...I shouldnt run into estro issues right...I dont currently have an AI on hand, but if you think necessarry, i will order up BEFORE i start. WIth that combo, whats a recommendation? I guess i could just order up some adex. Needto, kudos man, youve helped me a ton. Ive gotten a lot of bad cycle advice in the past, this board is the shit.
 
1-10 test-c 400mg ew 2 2ml shits a week
1-5 test prop (kick start) 100mg every other day
1-4 beastdrol 1 cap 3 times a day
6-10 hcgenerate 5 caps ed
10-14 5 pumps forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
10-14 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each ed.

this will work balls. Most of the gains will be on the front of the cycle. A good 10-20lb then you might get another 5lb at the end of it. Pct will work good and you will keep almost all of it


WAIT...BASED ON THESE NUMBERS...I GUESS I NEED MORE TEST..? CORRECT...? IVE GOT 1000ml of each..
 
I will reply to all post but some may take longer then others.you tell me what your problem is and I will work on solving it in some way or another.high bp,craps,going bold,sweating to much,tren anger,cant get to sleep,getting to sleepy,you name it and I will work on it and get back to you.


Hi, Im on test e 300mg and primo e 400mg a week. I get very tired by 2:00pm and have no sex drive but no problem getting erections. I also have a high pitched ringing in my ears. All of this started a few days after 1st injection. I drink pleny of water, sleep well and do cardio 3-4x a week. I take plenty of vitamins, fish oil, etc. My bp is also good. Any ideas? Thank you.
 
HI, I'm on my second cycle ever (first one dbol, deca, test e with proper pct), I had a lot of gear left over from my first go around and felt like it was time to do it again before beach time comes around. I'm currently on test e 500mg/week and about to start deca 300mg week. I have nolvadex stashed away for pct but now i believe i want to do a cutting cycle causee im big just not cut with no visable abbs. I have some Clen and meridia layn around and am able to aquire winstrol oral or masteron inj. which one should I go with while on this cycle. In my line of work I do alot of cardio. I just can't seem to get those abbs and cut chest.
21yrs old

5'8
170 pounds
bench 285
cannot squat due serious back injury
never had hairloss or acne problems
nor testicular atrophy cause of hcg
 
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Thought this might help other people on the board, and in the world.
Ive Pm´ed with Needto, because i was quite nervous of my condition and really pissed.

Im experiencing gyno like symptoms, my nipples start to ich every time i try running roids. Ive tried to run Anavar two times with out succues. I stopt both times after 3-4days because of my nipples iching/soreness. First attemt was 40mg and second was 20mg both times sore nipples occourd

I wonderd if i may have been to sensative on Anavar, and the drug it self might just not be good for me. So i decided to go for a similiar roid that had the same bonuses as Anavar. = Primoblan
I shot 50ml of primobolan, as a "test shooting" to see if i would run into same problems as when is was on Var. After 4-5days my nipples became sore/ichy the feeling went away on day 9-10days after injection

So is Prolactin, Progesterone or Estrogen the reason due to my ichyness when trying roids?
Can you explain why this is happening and what to do if i want to run a cycle with out problems with my nipples
 
HI, I'm on my second cycle ever (first one dbol, deca, test e with proper pct), I had a lot of gear left over from my first go around and felt like it was time to do it again before beach time comes around. I'm currently on test e 500mg/week and about to start deca 300mg week. I have nolvadex stashed away for pct but now i believe i want to do a cutting cycle causee im big just not cut with no visable abbs. I have some Clen and meridia layn around and am able to aquire winstrol oral or masteron inj. which one should I go with while on this cycle. In my line of work I do alot of cardio. I just can't seem to get those abbs and cut chest.
21yrs old

5'8
170 pounds
bench 285
cannot squat due serious back injury
never had hairloss or acne problems
nor testicular atrophy cause of hcg


your running test and deca which will cause some bloating and water retention. running an aas that will cause dry/ lbm gains with that will not help. you can run something like adex to reduce bloat/ water retention, but just wait until pct to use that. Can you cut using test and deca? Yes. Run it for 10-12 weeks, if diet and everything is in check, you will (eventually :p) start seeing your bf drop and your abs will pop out, unless you are one of those guys that they dont show up til youe 3-4%, but it may seem a bit soft imo. After the cycle, the water will drop and you will seem leaner. Run a strong pct and you will be g2g!
 
I am running my firste cycle and i take 500 mg sustanon and 500 mg deca in a week. i take on friday 250 mg sustanon and 250 mg deca and then i shoot next time on tuesday same amount. the problem is i am sweating so much that you can not belive it. I am shootin in gluteus and i am going deep. Can you give me some good advice ?
 
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