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Tell me if this kid is juiced or natural

I think the thing that most people are forgetting is that when a person gets really lean (i'll say sub 8%), there photo appearance makes them look much larger.

Whether this guy is natural or not, I don't know. I've had friends that were smaller and looked worse than this guy who used, and i've had friends that were natural and much, much larger and equally as lean who were not AAS users.

I think that if you were to actually meet this guy in real life, you would probably be thinking ...."what the heck was I thinking, he is just really skinny."

I had a similar build as this guy when younger with much bigger shoulders, neck, arms, and back.

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very much possible natural.. a year before i started my first cycle a few years ago.. i got very very lean naturally.. tho i was 190.. it was nice to see veins in my abs.
 
My vote is he is natural with gifted genetics. I'm sure he works hard and eats right as well. There are just guys out there like that lucky bastard mesomorphs.
 
GymIntensity said:
lol, you are insane bro! You can easily get those results without Juice! he might be on AAS, but those results can definately be obtained naturally, through great genentics mostly.

My best friend is 6'3 and looks like he was born with a 6 pack. he is that guys size except taller. so he looks a little leaner than that guy.
But on a side note, if you dont have any blessing in the genetics dept, as I dont, then yes, it is hard as fuck to get that look without AAS. :coffee:

Well which is it? First you say its easy, then you say its hard as fuck!

LOL cause my genetics are not great but they are better than about half the guys in my gym.

Ive never been able to get that cut without gear, well I take that back, when I was amateur boxing I was that cut, but I weighed 165 at 6'1", that dude is 185.

So I guess I dont have his genetics, Im 205 right now, not that cut, maybe 12% but havent used gear in about 6 months. Im also 35 and work 60 hours a week, that makes it harder.
 
Another thing I want to say is there are a lot of big guys who have never seen an ab in their life on their own body that somehow think its easy to get sub 8% like the guy in this picture and not lose much muscle.

Unless you have gotten that cut before, dont underestimate how hard it is.

Also if you have used AAS, dont even talk about how hard it is to maintain a natural body because you have no idea, its a lot fucking harder.

And finally there are the few people on this board that would qualify as being described as elite athletes, that compete in bodybuilding, have good genetics and looking like this guys isnt hard. Dont be going around insulting people that work just as hard as you that can never attain your level of conditioning, you were blessed by god, other people were blessed in other ways that likley may be superior to you in their own way. So dont go baggin on people unless you are perfect in every way.
 
KD1 said:
Another thing I want to say is there are a lot of big guys who have never seen an ab in their life on their own body that somehow think its easy to get sub 8% like the guy in this picture and not lose much muscle.

Unless you have gotten that cut before, dont underestimate how hard it is.

Also if you have used AAS, dont even talk about how hard it is to maintain a natural body because you have no idea, its a lot fucking harder.

And finally there are the few people on this board that would qualify as being described as elite athletes, that compete in bodybuilding, have good genetics and looking like this guys isnt hard. Dont be going around insulting people that work just as hard as you that can never attain your level of conditioning, you were blessed by god, other people were blessed in other ways that likley may be superior to you in their own way. So dont go baggin on people unless you are perfect in every way.


EXACTLY
 
Why do you people think that just because someone has beeter genetics then the majority that they had to juice to get there. It is very easy for me to get ripped but not that easy for me to get huge. I use to be able to eat anything I wanted and not gain an ounce. I could run and swim all day and still have energy left over to go out and party and drink all night. I also know several others who fall into this catagory. Then there are the fat asses who just sit on their ass and say that people who look like this have to juice to get there.

It is all just jealousy. Get off of your fat ass and do some cardio. You might be surprised just how easy it is to shed some body fat.
 
This kid weighs only 185lbs at what 6'? Is gear really needed for that? Remember a great photo can make anybody look good so what would he look like at the gym?
 
I don't think so, he's just a lean guy whos been working out for a while. IMO his muscles would look fuller if he had juiced...they look flat and defined.

If he has I bet hes been using weaker compunds like winny, primo or var.

I'd like to pick that guy up over my head and throw him through a window.
 
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